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Support thread for those experiencing or recently experienced a MC/MMC

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AMS19 · 29/12/2020 08:15

Hi ladies

A few of us got talking on another thread and found having each other in the same boat, whilst devastating, helpful. So here is a little thread so we can stay in touch and support each other through this journey.

Anyone who has recently experienced or is experiencing a MC/MMC please join us. We are just on the start of our journey ❤

I found out I had a MMC on 21st December at 9+5. This was following a scan that showed a baby with a heartbeat 3 weeks earlier. My body hasn't let go at all, with no bleeding, so I'm booked in for surgery tomorrow. The hardest thing waiting over Christmas 💔

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Scottishskifun · 06/01/2021 13:04

We live one road away from the police station so they walked to our house! Apparently there had been "multiple reports" nope the same one neighbour who we know as we saw them then go to her door.
The police were very apologetic after my mum and DH explained. Joys of a quiet town with a police station and everyone on lock down they had the time I suppose.

I've already resolved it in a underhand way sent a message to another neighbour explaining I had been in hospital and my mum was helping out unfortunately X had reported us without coming to speak to us first about concerns. Other neighbour is a active member of the street so no doubt by tomorrow X neighbour will be ignored by most people.

AMS19 · 06/01/2021 13:12

@scottishskifun well done! I hope she is isolated, absolutely awful!

@dmt1982 yeah my husband wasn't impressed! So kettle I still need to replace but don't use it often so not too worried. Water filter jug I couldn't find any but Britta doesn't contain BPA or polycarbonate so I'm planning to let the water filter through but then pour it straight into a glass jug to store it in. I've replaced the storage boxes and my water bottle though. I'm not sure I can do much more, so hopefully that is enough!

Links to what I've bought so far below 🙂

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www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01JA5WZ2G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_rCB9Fb8QWVDSP?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

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AMS19 · 06/01/2021 13:14

@mia2201 they told me to test after 4 weeks but obviously I'm way too impatient for that and already tested after 5 days 😂😂 I'll test again Friday and then probably once every 3/4 days. I'm only using cheap tests and saving a FRER until the cheapies go negative as they are less sensitive

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Seasidestarfruit · 06/01/2021 13:14

Hi everyone I hope you don’t mind me joining your thread, I’ve been reading and watching it since it started and it’s been so helpful for me in getting through this so wanted to share my experience to hopefully add to the stories for other people in the same position.

But firstly I’m so sorry for you all and wanted to say what amazing, positive and strong people you all are. The kindness and support I’ve seen you all give each other has been so heartening and has given me strength.

We found out about our MMC on 22 Dec, at our 12 week scan. At 39 years old I’d been prepared for the higher risk of miscarriage but as every week passed with symptoms still going strong and no signs of anything going wrong we were cautiously optimistic that we’d made it. As soon as the image came on the screen and we saw my empty uterus it hit us. ‘Just give me a second, I’m looking’ she said. Eventually she found our baby, sized around 6 weeks, a sac and fetal pole but so small. I was very sure of my dates so knew that was it but of course there has to be a wait for another scan. Christmas bank holidays meant I couldn’t go back again until this Monday, 4th Jan, a day short of when we would be 14 weeks. So we went home and tried to process the news.

Monday was supposed to be my first day back to work but I called my line manager first thing who has been through this and she was brilliant. They aren’t expecting me back this week and she fully understands that my head might take some time to get back into it when I do go back.

I read through a longer thread on here which prepared me for what might happen in that fortnight, stocked up on everything I would need and analysed every twinge and cramp, hoping it would just happen so we could move on. As it happens all of those were gas, my body really wanted to keep this pregnancy going.

I found this thread about a week ago and have been following all your stories closely, silently cheering you all on and keeping my fingers crossed for you while being so grateful for your sharing so that I could make my decision about what to do next because waiting for it to happen naturally really didn’t seem like the option for me.

On Monday we went back, I feel so lucky that my husband has been allowed to join me for all of this. I know not all of you have had great experiences with all the healthcare staff in your hospitals but I’ve been so fortunate here with ours who are honestly incredible and some of the kindest people I’ve ever met. I’m so sorry you haven’t all had that.

The internal scan confirmed what the first one showed, though in the fortnight between my uterus has continued to expand and was really big! Still no spotting, no cramps, my body carrying on like a trooper to keep a firm hold of the light that had gone out weeks ago.

At my hospital they offer medical, local MVA and the op under GA. I’m terrified of GA having never had it so that was my least favourite option. I seriously considered the tablets but the worry that they wouldn’t finish the job and that I could end up with a more drawn out process and having waited so long I really felt like I needed to physically let go so that I could emotionally start to heal. For that reason I chose the local anaesthetic surgery option, though this was after I asked for more info and learnt that at my hospital they give local anaesthetic injections as well as the gel which gave me more confidence in choosing that.

Last night at bedtime I took the 4 antibiotics they gave me and this morning at 7am I inserted the two Misoprostol tablets as high up as I could get them. I laid in bed for 30 mins to give them some time to work and started to feel quite crampy so worried it was all going to start but that died right down again.

On the way to the hospital at 9.30 I took 2 paracetamol and 2 ibuprofen, my appointment was 10am so that gave time for them to kick in. We went in at 10am and they talked through what would happen and then drew the curtain around so I could get undressed on the bottom half and get into the weird chair with a sheet over me.

There were 3 of them and my husband in with me. One nurse was scanning my abdomen to give the other one the view on the screen of what she was doing while she carried it out and then there was a doctor observing as well. I was given the gas and air and they encouraged me to use that while I had the anaesthetic injections to give me something to do as much as anything. For me those injections were fine, probably comparable with the dentist and nowhere near as painful as the ones I had in my big toe years ago before an ingrown toenail procedure, which (having never given birth) still stands at the second worst pain I ever had - tooth abscess being the worst! There were 4 of them but I only really felt the first 2. I say this not to dismiss anyone else’s experience and I know everyone’s pain threshold is different but if you’re reading this considering this option and the local anaesthetic injections are available to you then I hope it helps to make you less worried about that element - I’d built them up in my head and was quite anxious so it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be.

The whole procedure took longer than normal for me apparently, as my cervix did not want to open and she wanted to take her time. She had to use smaller tools and do it twice but with the anaesthetic though I could feel a lot it didn’t hurt. She said she would normally rather get the lining down by about another 1mm or so but decided to stop where she did to be on the safe side. She also had to spend a few mins holding gauze over my cervix which bled which I think is unusual but apparently my cervix is extremely vascular so there’s something you don’t expect to learn about yourself! I also learnt I have a retroverted uterus so this has been an educational week!

During the whole thing there was a lot of small talk, dizzy from gas and air I was chatty, mostly to distract myself and there were even moments of laughter which sounds really inappropriate now I say it but I do tend to use awkward humour as a coping mechanism. At the end they left us so I could sit and get my head ready to stand up (I’d really gone to town on the gas and air and felt really light headed towards the end). They left me with a stack of wipes and mega pads so once it was just me I cleaned myself up and got dressed. One more antibiotic tablet and a chat with them and we were out and home.

I’m now in my sofa nest with a cup of tea. There’s a fair bit of bleeding like a heavy period which they told me to expect (especially as I’ve still got lining to pass) and I think the anaesthetic is wearing off as it’s a bit crampy but nothing worse than a period pain so far. I feel really tired but I didn’t sleep well last night and this has been so full on emotionally I suspect that’s also relief to have got to this point.

Sorry this is so long, I really wanted to explain my experience in the hope it helps someone else to feel reassured about this option if they choose it but I probably should have warned you all to grab a cup of tea before you started reading! Sending so much love to you all xxxx

LauraT94 · 06/01/2021 13:27

@Seasalt1984 ah yes, so vaginal suppositories? Pessary is just another word used for that! They're what I'm hoping for. Just makes more sense to have it all locally rather than having it all travel through my body and blood stream first... If that makes sense? How are you feeling today?

@AMS19 thanks - I'm a nanny so it's a bit more full on, though while I'm not at my home it's still a homely environment and one I'm really comfy in. I'm still hoping I'll manage work after the EPU appt tomorrow but I'll wait and see how I feel! I'm dreading it at the mo as I don't want there to be a heartbeat now. I know it'll still be a non-viable pregnancy regardless. I've just not seen it have a heartbeat yet.

@Pettylamby I know how you feel about that gut feeling it wasn't meant to be. I always said I didn't want an August baby but when we fell pregnant of course I was over the moon! And any date would work. But I just had a feeling deep down that it wasn't going to happen. I wasn't going to have that August baby.

@Scottishskifun so sorry you had that drama with the police! You did say you thought your neighbor might do that. I'm glad your mum and DH were there to help solve the situation.

@Seasidestarfruit I'm sorry that you also find yourself here, but that said, I'm glad you've joined our little support network! I personally really find strength in other people's stories and the more details the better. So thank you so much for sharing. I hope the bleeding eases soon and I'm glad you have a cosy sofa nest to heal in! That's what I'll be doing too ❤️

AMS19 · 06/01/2021 13:30

@Seasidestarfruit wow where do I start. Firstly, thank you so much for sharing your story and in such detail. This will 100% help other women. As you'll probably know my experience of MVA was the opposite but I always said if you got the right treatment (painkillers, gas and air, etc) it could be a great option, and I'm so glad your experience was so much more positive.

Secondly you sound incredibly brave and pragmatic. You should be so proud of yourself. This is the worst thing to experience and we are all struggling in our own ways. I'm so glad you decide to post here. I understand some people want to stay away from forums and some find positing helps. This is here for everyone when they wish to use it and how they wish to use it. You can come and go, or stay and post daily, everyone will be different. For me, if I can help any other women deal with this then I feel like there has been some good come from all this experience. Even if I help one lady feel more prepared or slightly less alone, then expressing everything publicly makes me feel better.

I'm sending you so much love and healing. Your body was like mine, doing everything it could do protect our babies, and I think that is a lovely thought xxx

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MrsD1992 · 06/01/2021 13:39

Just a quick one.. does anyone have any advice on whether or not I should be doing anything extra to try and conceive? I’ve seen people post about pomegranate juice, eating pineapple core, taking pre seed and I even saw something about fertility yoga! Anyone recommend any of those or just stick to taking my vitamins and eating healthy and obviously getting busy when I ovulate lol xx

DMT1982 · 06/01/2021 13:48

@AMS19 I hadn’t even considered the kettle!!!!! I do have a stainless steel one on the hob so will just use that, problem solved lol!

Thanks for all the links. I maybe over thinking this but the lids to the glass containers, they are plastic and although BPA free the alternative to BPA is just as bad. Are they ok because the plastic doesn’t come into contact with the food? Also I could kick myself as recently chucked out a stainless steel bottle as it began to smell but your one comes with a proper cleaner so that’s good. My husband has just spent around £30 on BPA free water bottles for work and one for me.....he won’t stop using his I know but if I can replace the plastics in the house and cleaning products that’s one step in the right direction. I only eat the odd can of tinned food like mackerel and beans however tinned tomatoes, we cook everything from fresh so what do we do there. Have your supplements landed yet?

Also on a side note and apologies for asking but if anyone else has experienced this. I am a week post surgical management and the bleeding stopped a few days back (only ever light) and now I’m getting a light yellow discharge. It doesn’t smell and I’ve got no pain but has anyone else had this please?

Sorry lunch time probably not the best time to ask these questions!! Xxx

TheDaydreamBelievers · 06/01/2021 13:54

@Scottishskifun what a nosy bint! I'm amazed, I'm in Glasgow and they dont seem to come out for the 50 person parties, nevermind one person having their mum in! (I know this isnt the polices fault

DMT1982 · 06/01/2021 13:54

@MrsD1992 myself and @AMS19 are reading a book called it starts with an egg. I’ve only recently started it and @AMS19 is further a long it than me. It’s very interesting about what you can do to improve the quality of your eggs which ultimately helps with prevention of miscarriage (not totally but will help to some extent)

I also take vitamin D, pre conception vitamin that has folic acid and am ordering CoQ10 which is also recommended for egg quality. The Pom juice and pineapple core is apparently good for making your living nice and fluffy however that was a friend who told me that but she is pregnant so it must have some truth in it.

Obviously you can go overboard with things and it’s finding a middle ground so that you’re not rattling with supplements or obsessing with things like replacing plastics for glass (this I am obsessing over lol!!)

A healthy well balanced diet will also be key so lots of iron rich foods, fibre and natural folic acid found in foods such as avocado, fortified cereals, broccoli, oranges (not an extensive list by any means!)

Xxx

AMS19 · 06/01/2021 13:54

@MrsD1992 I dont think so lovely. I didnt do any of those things and conceived first month trying. The only real proven best chance is tracking ovulation and having sex at the right time. I dont think any of the other things will necessarily be game changers! But of course mentally the more you do the better you'll feel 😊

@dmt1982 yeah exactly so the lids don't touch the food so fine! Also it is more when the plastic comes in contact with water of heat. So when you warm the up I take the plastic lids off. I think that is why kettle is the worst because it touches water and heat! So a double whammy of plastic poison 😂😂 yeah my husband isn't getting that BPA free isn't good enough. To be fair she does say if it has the symbols 2 or 5 for recycling they are okay, and most things we have do they those, but still!

I havent had any discharge yet. I suspect if it is odourless you're okay and shouldn't need to worry, but keep an eye on it. Grabbing some antibiotics from the doctors is a nice easy fix so better be safe than sorry xx

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DMT1982 · 06/01/2021 14:00

@Seasidestarfruit thank you for posting on this thread and for taking the time to follow everyone’s experiences which is really lovely to hear that they’ve helped you with what you’ve been going through. It’s the feeling of not being alone and knowing there are others at the touch of a button who are going though similar trauma that has helped me through all of this.

Your post will help others who read this and I hope that by seeing it written down it may also help you heal as I know seeing it in black and white has helped me process what has gone on as I’ve not been able to speak to my close friends about it (my own silly fault but I just can’t bring myself to!)

I’m 38 so I totally get what you’re saying about feeling like you had got away with it especially how far a long you were as well as your body didn’t give you any reasons to think otherwise.

Stay on that sofa, rest your body and your mind because they are both working overtime at the moment. That’s so lovely your supervisor has been understanding as one less thing off your mind worrying about work as well. Sending you lots of love and don’t give up hope because I’m not xxx

Scottishskifun · 06/01/2021 14:26

@MrsD1992 I have had friends have successful pregnancies taking baby aspirin it's supposed to be prescribed by Dr due to potential bleed risk but some have just taken it anyway. It maybe worth researching yourself to make a decision.

@TheDaydreamBelievers yes I was a bit surprised but mostly the police around here deal with car accidents or fallen trees in non covid times. There is very little else which goes on a single burglary makes it into the newspaper as its very rare.

@DMT1982 thanks I'm trying had some soup and then tried some toast for lunch unfortunately my body rejected the toast. I still have high sickness so hoping it will settle down as hormone levels start to drop. I can't face the idea of doing pregnancy tests so just going to use my symptoms as signs.

@Seasidestarfruit you sound very strong I can only hope to get to the same stage in time. I definitely found being past 12 weeks not knowing I had lost the baby very very difficult.

mia2201 · 06/01/2021 14:29

Well done Seasidefruit for sharing your experience! Getting it all out to people who understand help massively. You will heal :-) we're a strong tribe and can do hard things! big hug to you and sorry about your loss xx

MrsD1992 · 06/01/2021 15:49

@DMT1982 Thank you so much for all that information! My husband is taking the CoQ10 so I will start taking them too 👍🏼

@AMS19 Thank you also! I probably am worrying too much I guess I just thought I want to give myself the best chance as it makes you want it even more after a loss doesn’t it 😔

Xxx

AMS19 · 06/01/2021 16:23

@MrsD1992 oh it really does!! Definitely take the CoQ10 too, this won't help you get pregnant but should improve the quality of your eggs when you do get pregnant. I'm taking 400mg of Ubiquinol every day. Otherwise OPK tracking and lots of sex is in order 😊 ironically, I've not touched my husband since being pregnant, the nausea put a stop to that. But since Saturday I've been constantly turned on. I'm desperate to have sex again. This is what I was like when I stopped taking the pill too. Clearly hormones just kill my libido! Being banned for sex is probably making me want it more too 😂🙃 xx

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mummydoingamasters · 06/01/2021 16:26

Hi everyone, sorry for the absence, I've been reading and following everyone's updates but I've just not felt strong enough to post.

I'm expecting first period since MC and I'm just so blooming emotional I'm just 'existing' and feeling a bit sorry for myself.

I hope everyone is ok as I can be in these circumstances 💜

MrsD1992 · 06/01/2021 16:40

@AMS19 Ah ok, so do you mean the CoQ10 will help with the pregnancy from the very early stages? When I’ve read up on it I thought it was to help improve your egg quality and I read that to mean it helps the quality of your eggs for trying to get pregnant but is it afterwards then? What’s Ubiquinol I’ve never heard of that? Haha funny enough I’ve been the same, in the last couple of days I’ve started to feel better since the MC and I really want sex too but I haven’t stopped bleeding yet so I can’t 😩 yes I know I think the not being able to have it makes you want it more doesn’t it! 😂

Seasalt1984 · 06/01/2021 17:03

@mummydoingamasters I'm so sorry you've experienced a loss too. It's so sad isn't it. Everything you're feeling is valid, it's so hard to be kind to ourselves when we're navigating this. I've found real solace talking to a couple of friends who had miscarriages a while ago and they both said just go with your feelings, it's ok to feel what you feel and things will get brighter in time. We're all with you xxx

mummydoingamasters · 06/01/2021 17:06

@Seasalt1984 thank you so much for that, it has made my cry (not in a bad way) to know there's so much support out there when/if I need it.

I'm sorry to hear you need to be here too. How are you? Glad to hear you have real life support

AMS19 · 06/01/2021 17:22

@mummydoingamasters I know how hard it will feel but also remember that your period will show your body is doing what it needs to. If, and when, you decide to try again have your body in the best shape will be what you need ❤

@MrsD1992 sorry I probably wasn't clear. So Ubiquinol (the active form of CoQ10, so the form you should ideally be taking as more gets absorbed and is helpful) helps improve egg quality as you say. This won't make you more likely to get pregnant, but will make it more likely to be a successful pregnancy when you do as the egg is better quality. Hence, should in theory reduce the chances of miscarriage given most miscarriages are from chromosomal abnormalities in the egg that has fertilised. Does that make sense? Xx

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MrsD1992 · 06/01/2021 18:58

@AMS19 Oh I see! Don’t worry, I just hadn’t heard of that before! Yes that all makes sense I didn’t know all that! Since joining mumsnet I’ve learned so much and I feel like it’s made me more positive and much more knowledgeable to go into another pregnancy so I’m feeling really good now! 🥰 I feel this will get me through another pregnancy too! Very glad I found this!

AMS19 · 06/01/2021 19:06

@MrsD1992 yeah I've learnt so much too. Exactly, it might not even make a difference physically, but mentally I feel so much more positive now I've made changes! Without something being different I would lose my mind with anxiety. Lets face it, I still will, but maybe a little bit less. We will all get through this together! Xx

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Seasalt1984 · 06/01/2021 19:22

@mummydoingamasters oh bless you, it's such a horrible thing to happen that definitely keeps rippling for a while.

I'm ok today thanks, feeling on the road to recovery after medical management seems to have worked.

Talking to other people about it is such a personal choice, but it has really helped me a lot, especially with people who've had miscarriages has given me a lot of support. My Mum had a loss and even though it was nearly 40 years ago we've had some long talks in the last few days, it's a bonding experience in a way (which might sound strange! But it's been very cathartic)

Lililou · 06/01/2021 19:26

Thanks for the well wishes, as suspected I miscarried last night. Scan confirmed it today. I'm doing ok now but the experience of the scan was really upsetting, worse than the actual miscarriage.