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Meghan markle ny times article

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stronglikemytea · 25/11/2020 10:13

Does anyone else find it refreshing to finally see people in the public eye using their platforms to raise awareness on such raw issues?

Two weeks ago i miscarried. And in all honesty i felt so alienated as everyone around you seems to be going for scans or giving birth and your sat wondering why me?

To wake up to read an article written by a woman who has come away from such a strict establishment and speak up about such a heartbreaking experience i find quite comforting and that it is OKAY to speak about such a painful loss.
To think that even though these people who are open to the world and ripped to shreds by the media and trolls, we must remember are still human.

After reading meghans article i am heartbroken for the couple as knowing that same feeling is something i will never forget also. But at the same time i am grateful that she has opened up and made it clear we need to talk more.

For anyone who has miscarried/loss or going through a hard time, you are amazing and strong do not ever think any different xxx

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MoonJelly · 25/11/2020 11:39

've had people (who should know better) back off, abruptly change the subject, and look as though they'd do anything short of crossing the street in front of a speeding bus to get away from me.

People who have had close relatives die will tell you that they have encountered the same. I don't think that response is peculiar to miscarriage.

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Friendsoftheearth · 25/11/2020 11:41

I found the article too much actually, as someone that has had a miscarriage, the use of language about tears mingling and wondering if they will ever heal. I found it was way too much. A simple statement confirming that the miscarriage had happened, and happens to women all over the world and the sadness it brings would been sufficient. It was another article/interview/update that sounded full of self pity. It happened in July, so the article now being published four months later feels strange to me.

Member869894 · 25/11/2020 11:42

Well I've had a miscarriage and agree it should be talked about more but struggled with this article.

dopenguinsdance · 25/11/2020 11:42

I don't know them or how far along the pregnancy was, so I don't feel like I'm in any position to sympathise. I do however empathise with their loss on a personal level. Still, I'm a bit Hmmat the tone of the announcement and hope it's not going to prove to be just another jumping off point for another overblown M&H 'initiative' that fails to deliver anything but headlines promoting their brand - whatever that is this week.

MarchionessofActon · 25/11/2020 11:42

Absolutely agree that the language used makes it sound trite but it may well have been edited that way for the NYT and a majority American audience.

ShootingPenguins · 25/11/2020 11:42

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PrincessNutNut · 25/11/2020 11:44

anything I know about Meghan it's attention seeking and it just seems a bit like in the line of Gemma Collins' attention seeking drivel.

And what do you actually know about Meghan?

Yes, we know that being "attention seeking" is the worst thing a woman could possibly do on MN, except maybe do something deemed "common", because a lot of posters apparently really do have an issue with any woman who isn't at pains to make herself completely invisible like a Good Person. Nothing Meghan did with this would please you lot; if she'd just written a piece about how sad she was and how she felt for others in the same situation, she'd still be accused of being "attention seeking" because she'd written the damn thing at all and she'd be castigated because the story shouldn't be told by high profile people...oh wait, we had that on page 1.

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CandyLeBonBon · 25/11/2020 11:44

Claiming she made things up or that she's attention seeking is out of order. I just think she needed a better editor.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 25/11/2020 11:44

Sorry you've had a miscarriage op Flowers

'99.9% of women experiencing a MC do not share it publicly. That doesn't mean that its taboo or that they shouldn't talk about it, but that they do so within their relationship, with the doctor, relatives and friends.'

I agree they aren't 'taboo'. They are sadly very common and of course peope usually talk about it with their close family and friends.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 25/11/2020 11:46

People who have had close relatives die will tell you that they have encountered the same. I don't think that response is peculiar to miscarriage.

I have. Most notably my mother, at far too young an age. I'm aware my own individual experience is just that, and that on a broader social level others' situations may differ. But in my experience it was not the same.

Ask anyone who has an association with SANDS or the Miscarriage Association.

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 25/11/2020 11:46

Oh BadgersBum Sad 🍫

CapGunAmmo · 25/11/2020 11:47

I know, I would just prefer to hear about the struggles of everyday people.

Im no fan of M&H but miscarriage and baby loss is no respecter of status, wealth or rank . It can and does happen regardless of privilege. It’s a horrible leveller and no matter who chooses to write about it, it helps to make it something that we don’t brush under the carpet and avoid talking about at all costs.

Sparklingbrook · 25/11/2020 11:48

@BadgersBum

9 years ago today for me, was doing quite a good job of not thinking about it until I got home from work this year until the headline flashed up on my pc screen. Sat at the same desk, in the same office and shortly nipping off to the same loo where I discovered I was bleeding. Glad I'm off home at 1 for chocolate and self-pity.
So sorry @BadgersBum Flowers
MarieIVanArkleStinks · 25/11/2020 11:48

I agree they aren't 'taboo'. They are sadly very common and of course peope usually talk about it with their close family and friends.

And plenty speak about it publicly too. Check out #WaveOfLight on Twitter, check out social media, blogs, articles. They do not just talk about it under the narrow parameters you imply are appropriate. Nor should they, if that's how they decide they want to grieve.

Thecobwebsarewinning · 25/11/2020 11:48

@Iwillneverbesatisfied

I'm sorry for MMs loss and for anyone else who has experienced a MC but this NYT article makes me uncomfortable. It reads like a novel.

99.9% of women experiencing a MC do not share it publicly. That doesn't mean that its taboo or that they shouldn't talk about it, but that they do so within their relationship, with the doctor, relatives and friends.

They don't write about it in a newspaper, nor do they use it as an opportunity to link it to BLM, Covid, US election. Nor do they use it to to defend themselves against (justified) criticism of tone deaf behaviour in South Africa.

My friend had a MC in July. She went through it in hospital alone. She didn't have her husband holding her hand like MM did. She didn't go to the media. She didn't post about it on social media. She got help from the hospital and her doctor (ADs). She got help from her DH, her parents and close friends. That doesn't mean it was in any way taboo.

People on Twitter are saying Kate Middleton wouldn't get this criticism if it was her but those people miss the point. Kate would very likely NOT go to the media and get support privately instead. If it were a late stage loss, the RF would do a brief public statement and most likely ask for privacy. They wouldn't use it as an opportunity to talk politics.

So again, I have lots of sympathy for anyone having a MM but the MM articles and Christy Teigan's very public photographs and articles is not necessary.

This isn’t a race to the bottom. All baby loss is sad and a tragedy for the grieving family. MM knows her experience doesn’t trump that of your friends.

You think that MM and CT’s writings and photos were unnecessary and you are entitled to your opinion but they helped those two women and their husbands and testimony on here shows they have helped other women and families. That may not be strictly necessary but for those touched by it, it means a lot.

And yes her writing was dramatic but she’s an actor and performer. They aren’t known for being low key!

viques · 25/11/2020 11:48

Poor Meghan and Harry. I hope they have been supported by their families, especially Zara and Mike Tindall who we know have been through the same pain.

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Drinkingallthewine · 25/11/2020 11:50

Not a fan of MM at all, but losses like this are heartbreaking so she has my sympathy here.

Baby & miscarriage loss is such a leveller isn't it? Whether we are poor or loaded, young or old, have no children yet, or a houseful of them, loss is loss.

I had five miscarriages. I'm blessed to have had DS, but those losses were tough on my headspace. I confided sometimes but when I used to get tone-deaf replies (likely more to do with who I chose to confide in) I stopped.
We are moving soon and I'm already planning the plants that will flower around their due date in memory of them.

CleverCatty · 25/11/2020 11:50

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GetOffYourHighHorse · 25/11/2020 11:51

It's a very cheesily and clumsily written article tbh. American politics, racism and miscarriage.

SmallYappyTypeDog · 25/11/2020 11:51

If Meghan Markle found the cure for cancer some of you would be queuing up to give her a kicking for putting hard working oncology nurses out of a job.

As for the timing of the article it was clearly meant to be released on Thanksgiving. Nothing to do with the Cambridges and any news they might release.

I am sorry for their loss and all of us who have lost our babies Flowers.