Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 27 - Tests, Treatments and Trying Again

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Tea, hugs, a wealth of collective knowledge and lots of hand holding as we try again. This thread moves like lightning so hold on to your hats!
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Thorn, excellent scan news!
Good luck to those getting scanned tomorrow.
1 pm on 25th suits me

freckle I had a very similar moment earlier, it is just so frustrating to not have had just NORMAL experience, and I'm the same, given up wheat and dairy, not drank for 18 months, given up caffeine, taking 6 supplements, having acupuncture and now it might not work out. We go through such a lot ti have what other women seem to get just like FINGERSNAP. I think toddler tantrums are 100% appropriate!

barking just wanted to say thinking of you with both your dad and DH going away.

Completely understand your frustration and feeling like your body isn't doing what it's supposed to, and what it used to do freckle. Changes in how our bodies work just make this whole thing more frustrating because you never know where you stand. One of my biggest upsets about mc is feeling my body has let me down and it's one that my dh doesn't understand at all. We have to go through so much and haven't a clue whether all the things we are doing make a blind bit of difference. Big hugs to you x

I regularly feel like my body is broken and why can't it just do what it sailed through doing the first two pregnancies. I think the biggest mind fuck is just not knowing what to do or not to to alter the outcomes. I keep thinking that maybe it would be easier if going through IVF, as with that process they check the quality of the eggs, so straight away you should be clear from duff eggs, and you are starting with an advantage of a good fertilised egg and if it doesn't work then you have other issues to combat like thin linings, NK cells, clotting issues etc. as it is, we could be doing all the right things when it was never meant to be for certain eggs from the outset because they were crap.

I have taken the progesterone tonight, but still wary of it, but so many seem to recommend it I decided to try it again. Will get DH to do first clexane shortly. Any tips on injecting it? (He hasn't done one on me for nearly 3 years so he might be rusty)

Good news for those with great scans :)

Thinking of you ladies who are in the worry zone - certainly know that feeling.

Had an ok day today. DH was back at work, but kept ringing to make sure I was ok. Just rested and ate junk food. Was able to go for a short walk with the dog and get some fresh air.

Feeling sore still, a lot worse than last time. Feels like I've done hundreds of stomach crunches.

DH has promised me beer and sushi Saturday night. I know I'd much rather be pregnant and not able to indulge, but its sweet of him.

Thinking of you all xx

freckle it's friggin shite isn't it. Feel like that too.

I've never seen a heartbeat on any of my scans, somehow I'm kinda glad I haven't, think it would be tougher to deal with. EPU asked if I wanted a scan pic when I found out at my 12 wk that the pregnancy had stopped at 7 wks but I was crying so hard, (I think I threw the nurse such a mouthful) I thought she was crazy asking me that to be honest, but I'm also glad I didn't have a copy of that scan pic, again just my way of dealing with it, too hard for me to deal with I think...

Sorry to sound so depressive especially when there has been good news today...

Mrsb glad you are doing ok, take good care of yourself and rest, rest, rest!

I too has terrible strained stomach muscles after this miscarriage. The Dr at the hospital said the pregnancy hormone relaxes an stretches all the muscles. I literally felt like is been sliced in too at one point. Guess it's a lot worse for you after your op. It's taken until this week for mine to feel normal again. I think the swimming has really helped me.

Big hugs to you xx

freckle you mean you haven't painted yourself blue and danced in front of a fertility statue? You're clearly not even trying woman .
I painted myself blue, then I tried a more indigo shade, then more of a royal blue, even a shade of purple. Apparently it was baby blue I should have tried . Of course! Unfortunately I threw said fertility statue out of the window so, alas, I can't try again .

I had a year of pissing on sticks and getting my hopes up then I slowly came to the stage where it didn't even cross my mind that I could be pg, so I don't have the whole 2ww anxiety/hope/despair cycle anymore unless it's after a round of iui or ivf. There are upsides to infertility if you look hard . This coming 2ww will be like the last 3 months after the ivf failed all rolled into one though, as it's all been building up to this month!

Mrsb have you got a wheat bag? Or a hot water bottle?
Junk food and sofa sound good, as does a walk with the dog. Keep going one day a time, you're doing great .

thorn that's great! Hope it provides you with some reassurance for the coming weeks. What a huge relief!

loopy glad you got the meds sorted, how annoying that the prescription was wrong.

barking its good that your dad is getting somewhere with physio, hope he continues to make improvements. I can also imagine that when you are in the situation of dh being away/going through ivf, you will be getting on with it, and each day will be one less until he comes back x

Oh freckle I have been there, it's utterly shite. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it - though I dearly hope one day 'they' figure it out. It's not over until you say it is, your body might be figuring it all out again but it will get there. Doesn't sound like you are out yet this month either - crossing everything for you x

brummie I have been having twinges too that have been quite painful - not helped by a bad cough which is worrying as I can't think that hacking away is doingholdpelvic floor/cervix much good. This lead up to the 12 wk is just terrifying, and 'sick with fear' describes it perfectly. Huge hand hold from me x

flen big hand hold for tomorrow x

march hoping that the spotting stays at bay. Big hand hold for you too x

Loopy I'm clexaning - refuse to let DP to do it in case it hurts me! The irony I know.

Just grab your flab from the side of your tummy - avoiding being too close to belly button and plunge straight in, no messing. Push the plunger down, you'll feel the click which basically as you pull it out the protective plastic cover comes over needle.

Job done. I still flinch everyday I do it but I actually I find it stings more afterwards

Great news on my the scans thorn and bootles - yay for team blue too!

march hope the prog sorts out the bloody annoying spotting

flen everything crossed for your scan tomorrow. Seriously hoping, hoping, hoping everything is fine.

loopy so sorry I think I missed your bfp! Congrats lovely and glad you got everything sorted.

brummie bloody twinges. Hope they've done adding to the mindfk now.

barking we're all here for handholding during the mega tww!

mrsb bless your Dh- he sounds very sweet.

freckle I can't say how much I totally get where you're coming from. It's just so fucking frustrating that nothing is easy and we can't tell what helps and what doesn't. I'm so close to testing but just don't want to see a bloody blank space might cave tomorrow though or maybe Friday

onestep please don't feel any way about putting your feelings down on here. I feel bad myself for putting good news down when I know others are in worse places. We are here to listen, there's no such thing as too depressing.

mrsb glad dh is doing his best to look after you, and sorry you are so sore.

Re clexane - I find it less painful after a shower, or after rubbing the skin first to warm it up...sounds odd but it seems to work.

Everyone**Just want to say thanks to all of you for the damage control for my tantrum earlier. Your empathy has really picked me up. I normaly push it all down, but i just needed to explode this aft. Thanks for bucking me up.

Barking** you made me laugh out loud. Thankyou. Silliness is my favourite tonic xxxx

Lovely news Bootles and congrats Thorn.

Flen and March, hope everything settles down. Realise I said spotting has never ended well for me and actually it did in first pregnancy! I had bright blood at 20 weeks and all was fine. But can appreciate how much more stressful it is when you've had recurrent miscarriages.

Thanks everyone for your support, I'm feeling a lot brighter today, despite a male colleague being abit dismissive of what I'd been through, saying 'oh yes it's very common, must be better bring back at work though?'

Freckleand March what are the sticks you're talking about? I used the clear blue last time but when it should've read 3+ and it said 2-3 it only worried the hell out of me. I since found out that they're not reliable for the weeks part although in my case it was right.

Bootles and Thorn fantastic news on your scans today! What a relief for you both. You are well on the way now, how exciting!!

Bellende so true, this thread is amazing the amount of support and understanding on here. I'm addicted to it!

Freckle well said!! Exactly mine and a lot of others thoughts, exactly!! Good to get it out of you!! Made me laugh your last sentence. What's a mooncup??

Loopy I've been thinking exactly the same about IVF, that they can start off with good eggs (if I've got any left at all), I'm wondering if/when I should try it.

Mrsb glad to hear you're resting up and DH is looking after you well, it does feel odd to indulge when you've been not doing so, another sad reminder but why not treat yourself x

Flen good luck for scan tomorrow

Barking lol ha ha ha fertility statue lol

good luck Flen today x

Mrsb, I had a massive bruise after my first epc and was generally very sore afterwards. So much so I questioned it when signing the form for the second as it was twins and wondered if the bruising would be any worse. The doctor told me that during an epc they push into your uterus to get it to contract and they can be heavy handed hence the bruising/soreness.

Barking, you have a way with words....must locate my fertility statue!

Best of luck today flen. Willing this to all be OK. Hand hold in there with you. What time are you up?

march Not til 2, so lots of killing time this morning, and of course I woke up at 5.30...!

Good luck flen x

Everything crossed flen x

Ugh. Afternoon scans are a killer for the nerves. Hope you can keep yourself busy xx

Emerald it's first response early response tests. Neon pink boxes. Boots recently had them on buy one get one free but that's probably finished now. They are super sensitive and great for nutters like me who can't wait until 14dpo or later to test....

Barking your post made me smile. Maybe that should be circulated to nhs staff, to get through to them how hard it is for us all, and to any idiot who says you just need to go away on holiday and relax..

Thanks for clexane tips. DH did it last night but he is definitely out of practice and the syringe is different to the ones we used after the boys were born, in a bad way. Mega ouchy after, I remembered they sting but this was really ouchy. Will get him to aim into my skin below the belly button in future, I can barely feel that area because nerves were damaged in the cs's.
POAS frer again today and line is a bit crisper and pinker than yesterday's. Still have a conflict in my head that we have lost the last 5 so why should this be any different, and what if I have high NK cells and that I should have gone to coventry, given that 8 times I have tried to get pregnant 8 times a fertilised egg has implanted but only 2 boys to show for it it sounds like I could tick their hyper fertile box. But then maybe law of averages is due to kick in and maybe this will work. I've not got as far as taking the clexane before, and the lines on the tests this week are much stronger than the lines I had on the tests for the last two losses, which is encouraging.

Sorry. Meant to add, Flen I hope the scan brings positive news for you later today. Will be thinking of you x

flen - everything is firmly crossed for you today lovely. x