Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 27 - Tests, Treatments and Trying Again

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Tea, hugs, a wealth of collective knowledge and lots of hand holding as we try again. This thread moves like lightning so hold on to your hats!
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spam you are grieving - grief is not self pity. It's only human to cry about a traumatic loss, and by not crying at your ds's funeral you were allowing yourself to get through the day. You sound quite concerned about your youngest son, which must be an added stress - when things are tough it's ok to cry and rage. Are you getting any counselling? About the test results, I think if you can find the strength regular calls may help. It's dreadful that you went through that and then you hear nothing. Take things day by day xx

march glad things are going in the right direction this morning.

Morning march**! So glad things are looking up! Apparently ib can be brown, red, black (!) most unexpected! I won't be testing for ages march - just generally try to ignore it for as long as possible am due af on wednesday so maybe tues night or wed. For what it's worth i dont think i am (i suspect now that i'm 40 the egg requires sperm much closer to ovulation than 36 hours and also hoping my body is being a bit more selective). Should be easy to ignore as all the family is hete this weekend, its the village gala and ds is in the parade with nursery and it's ds 2nd birthday tomorrow then sports day at school on monday, so have plenty of stuff to keep me occupied! Xx

Oh spam you have had an absolutely devastating time and have every right to cry and rant and scream about. I'm so dreadfully sorry you've had to go through it. When you have the strength to chase up the results then it may help to know. If there is a reason. I'm so sorry that you have to do it though. It's the last thing you need. Xx

march happy to hear the line is getting stronger and the bleeding has stopped. Hope it stays that way. I'm 9 dpo here but absolutely zero symptoms other than pre af cramping like last month. No desire to test and see another bfn at all so I think I'm just going to wait it out. Af due around tue/wed so not that long to wait.

March, glad to hear it's more positive signs, will continue to hold my breath for you in the meantime, although I'm sure you are as well!

freckle, minnie, i wish i had your patience! Still keeping my fingers crossed for you both (and the other ttwers)

bootles, sorry to hear your fading symptoms are worrying you. Hoping with all my heart that it's just normal tailing off of symptoms, which is about right timing wise.

Just wanted to say thank you everyone for all your support today, yesterday and over the last 9 months that I've been here. You guys are truly amazing and I wouldn't be where I am without you. Feel incredibly lucky to have found this thread and feel slightly less crazy for having you lot to lean on for a bit longer. Thanks

I was awol yesterday as the feeling rubbish all week turned into feeling hideous yesterday morning and I called in sick and slept for most of the day. Managed to login to see the good scan news All 3!! , but didn't have the energy to post!

I'm so glad things look better today March - still in the game!!!!

spam it's already been said, but give yourself a break, you've been through a whole heap of shit and you're very much entitled to be a drama queen and cry all day if that's what makes you feel better .

spam I don't even have the words to really express how truly truly heartbreaking it is for you. I hope you get some answers and I think its appalling that more has not been offered.

Grief is normal, and it sucks us into a black hole. We're here for you. DH has been out all day with his mother. He was worries about leaving ne, but he needs a break from me at the moment, even if he doesn't think so. Spent my day hugging the dog and crying. Don't really feel much better for it.
The "what ifs" are the worst part.

I echo what march said- you are all truly amazing.

Sorry for not posting regularly ladies. Just trying to catch up with the thread but you're such a chatty lot hehe.

Pleased to read there were a good set of scans this week for some of our pregnant members. Keeping fingers crossed for all the ladies who are waiting for results and scans.

Spam I'm so sorry for all you've been through. It's only natural that you need to cry and grieve. So frustrating that you've still not had your results back. Could your DH chase them up perhaps? I would also suggest you ask your GP for some counselling sessions. I had them during my hardest times and it helped me get through.

Barking you're being very proactive with your treatment plan. I will keep everything crossed for you and your DH. I truly believe your time will come!!!

Hugs and good luck wishes to you all xxxxx

barking hope you feel better soon

mrsb it's such early days for you in regards to this loss. Maybe at this stage it's just about getting through it. I know what you mean about the what if's, the fear of the future can be overwhelming. For now, perhaps focus on the small steps - get through the weekend, then the erpc, then the wait for results, etc. Big hugs, it is such a shitty time.

Thanks march, am hoping that too.

Wondering if any of you know, maybe tmi but today I have brown blood and slight cramps in area where implantation was. It's been 2.5wks since ERPC , could this be af? Have stopped bleeding till now so bit worried what this is. Have no idea where cycle is at now, help!

Emerald, firstly there is no such thing as tmi on here! Sorry about your loss. I'd say that it sounds like AF. Everything is do confusing at this stage, hence being called the 'wtf cycle'. My AF came just under 2 weeks after my ERPC.

Spam I don't think any decision around whether or not to have a full post-mortem could ever be deemed selfish.

March, darker line is sounding good. Is the spotting earlier than you'd usually have in your cycle?

Emerald, fingers crossed for East Anglia meet with babies then!

Missed your last post Emerald, I have no idea what bleeding could be. I expected next AF after m/c to be four weeks later but apparently it doesn't usually happen like that so could be?

emerald I think the wtf cycle can pretty much be anytime. After my medical management in March, my next period was exactly 4 weeks but following my natural MC in aug it was only two weeks (I've just checked back on my app!) so I think it could be. So annoying to be in limbo!

mrsb so sorry this is happening again. We're all here to listen and handhold xx

barking hope you're feeling better soon x

Oh and those hideous alien egg toys should be banned! Ds wanted one on a hook-a-duck today. I hadn't seen them at first but when I did I felt physically sick. Took me right back to March and seeing my little one. Urgh just what you don't need in the middle of a food festival. The woman (and my friend) must have thought I was really rude as I practically shouted you are not having one those while doing my best not to cry!

Emerald I've been bleeding (definitely AF) since 6 July after m/c naturally on 12 June at 9 weeks pregnant. Think the interval was similar after my 1st m/c too.

Thanks everyone! Sounds like it might be then? If just assumed it would be 4wks later but thinking about it why would it really, it's so confusing. I like wtf cycle, that def sums it up!
Biscuits yes fingers crossed! I so hope so.
Minnie ugh yes I know exactly what you mean, what bloody sicko invented those hideous toys?!

Definitely sounds like it could be af emerald. I read something that said people's LP is generally shorter in the month after mc. I find i have spotting 3/4 days before first af after a mc, which I think is quite common, so you might find its a few days before it starts full flow

This wtf cycle period has actually been lighter but longer for me. Annoying!! No pain though which is good.

Hi ladies

I'm a regular on a ttc thread but think I need a spell here if you'll have me.

I conceived on cycle 1. On June 12 at 7+ 4 I had an early reassurance scan that showed a small empty sack. Devastated doesn't come close.

On June 14 I started to bleed and that whole week I had very heavy bleeding. I had a scan half way through that week showing I had passed the sack but there was more bleeing to come.

The bleeding lessened and for a couple of days went away almost completely.

Last week I randomly did an OPK that showed a positive result. I cannot describe how happy I was to be ovulating, despite a little sporadic bleeding/brown discharge. DH and I got back on the ttc wagon for a few days in the hope I might conceive.

I've since learned that OPKs detect hcg and I was most highly likely not ovulating - the test was just detecting left over hcg. This probably hit me as hard as the miscarriage.

Anyhow. 4 weeks on from when I first started miscarrying and the bleeding has come back (usually on wiping - but quite a bit of gloopy red blood) and brown discharge in pads - and I have very mild period style pains.

I am so so so hoping this is AF but very much doubt it.

Sorry for the long post but I'm losing faith badly. I just want to get ttc again. Has anyone else had a miscarriage that has lasted this long?? Could the current bleeding/pain be AF or am I trying to kid myself?

Any advice welcome.

Hey all, back from hols and up to my eyes in unpacking and clothes washing, so really shouldn't be on here but needed a few minutes escape! Limited internet whilst away so not managed to keep up with the thread but read snippets now and then. Brummie good news re your scan, and Sebs, and Sun. Can't rememeber who else had good scans sorry but well done to anyone else! March I hope the stronger line means this one might be a sticky one.

I am not entirely sure as I didn't take temperatures this cycle but I think I ovulated on the Friday, which makes me 9dpo today. Why I do this to myself I don't know but I poas (frer) this afternoon and there is a shadow of a line on the stick, a real squinted though, even when shining a torch at it. Am hoping that this one has implanted properly and isn't a duff egg and turns into a full blown line over the next few days. Rightly or wrongly I'm not going to take any progesterone yet. The last 2 mc's were the earliest losses I've had and I'd taken progesterone from roughly 10-11dpo on the first I think and from 7 dpo on the second one. I'm worried that the progesterone wasn't helping and might have had the contraceptive effect others have mentioned, but just no way of knowing as we only ever know the one outcome. It could be this one is a duff egg and nothing will help. It could be its a good egg and I lose it by not taking progesterone. It could be its a good egg and I lose it by taking progesterone. It could be that all I need is a good egg and the clexane, and the progesterone is irrelevant but i'm trying not to mental over it too much!!!!

Welcome feathered and so sorry you find yourself here. I would say it could definitely be af.
Re the positive opk, Have you had a negative hpt yet? If you still had hcg in your system then unfortunately you're right, it could give a false positive on an opk, but could also have been ov. Hopefully this is af and you can stay a fresh cycle. Good luck with it.

Whispered congrats loopy! I did the same and haven't taken the prog yet because of my worry about the last two early ones. And now i don't know whether to not take it at all or start it in a few days (probably 15 dpo, as that's the date the prof suggested I take a test (!!)). Any suggestions welcome about what to do!

Also have a question about the pred. Did it make anyone feel a bit sick? The nausea is here already (normally don't get it til 6 or 7 weeks), but wondered if it's the pred making me more hungry and tired (both of which exacerbate it). On the one hand glad to feel a bit crap but made me realise I've not mentally prepared myself for the HG again yet. Urgh.

Ah ha loopy...whispered congrats!!!

March, i doubt hcg would ne strong enough in your system to get nausia just yet, more likely to be a side effect of the drugs i think. Xx

loopy whispered congrats
feathered sorry for your loss. Quite possible this is af. Several of my first af's post mc's have been odd.

march and loopy i dont know what to suggest about the progesterone, but I think I would be tempted to do what you are doing. Its trial and error to a degree I think.

march pred made me feel jumpy the first couple of weeks. In the last pg it minimised the symptoms, but not so with this one. I did think of you today - symptoms returned and felt hideous all morning. Glad of it but struggled horribly through work. I'm down to only 5mg of pred but even when I took more it didn't mask the symptoms as it did last time (and there wld have been symptoms as it got quite far along). I was thinking how I hope it masks your symptoms this time, with your previous HG. Sorry for all the text writing. Anyway typically pred makes you hungry and a bit buzzy rather than tired. But I don't think it affects everyone in the same way - I don't really have the hunger thing so much. Rambled posting - on bus.

March girlthanks yes I think you were right, def af as it is in full flow now after spotting before. Sorry don't know what to suggest re progesterone having only took it once from bfp but didn't work for me. So hard to know isn't it.

Just wanted to run something past you all. I've also been on another thread for Ttc over 40, lovely bunch there too. One lady reckons that falling quick and RMC is a sign of over receptive uterus; it will implant anything rather than just not dismissing a bad egg. Have any of you heard of this? It makes me wonder if all the tests will come back normal and I'll never know, but guess that's what we are all trying to find out. Oh it's just all so confusing, maybe I'm overthinking it?

Feathered sorry for your loss, and welcome here, not where you want to be but you will find a lot of support here. I had similar to you, empty sac at 7.3 wks same time as you so I know how you are feeling. I would say that this bleeding is af this time, but if you're worried you could ask for another scan to make sure it's all clear in there?