Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 25 - tests, treatment and trying again

[Marchgirl]

Tea, hugs, a wealth of collective knowledge and lots of hand holding as we try again. This thread moves like lightning so hold on to your hats!
Previous thread here

... Crossed posts with tanny who has posted the ranges . There is also a calculator somewhere on the Internet where you can stick in your hcg levels and dates you had them done and it checks they are doubling correctly (if you don't have them done exactly 48 hours apart). x

...and now crossed posts with littlebear on the calculator . I can't keep up!!

Thank you. They do seem to be good levels and if the brown discharge hadn't happened I would probably feel delighted. Ok, I'm going to pray the spotting calms down and the scan on Friday shows the pregnancy is in the right place.

Thanks again everyone xxx

Levels and increase both sound good to me sebs. Fingers crossed the spotting settles and good luck for the scan x

I just wish I could feel more hopeful.

Sebs good luck for your scan on Friday.

Littlebear great to hear you bought that dress!

sebs these early days are a nightmare. Are you 5 weeks exactly? Did they try to scan you today or are they just waiting until friday? Hand hold offered here and it definitely looks like there is reason to try to hold on to hope.

tom chuck it in the fuck it bucket came from brummie initially I think (or *freckle?), I like to use it where possible.

IBS thing is interesting...as always there remains so much confusion around the possible causes of rmc.

sasha I have been told that chromosomal causes can occur at any time. My 3rd was Trisomy 22 and anembryonic, just I held onto it until nearly 10 weeks. My 5th died at 9 weeks, and couldn't get chromosome results. Its at 9-10 weeks that the placenta starts to take over so gets flooded with blood and oxygen, like a stress test. Prof B gave this as a possible cause for a 9 week loss - a placenta that just isn't quite strong enough.

march do you think you will manage to get any time to look after your head over the next few days?

Does anyone know what time MrsD was having her scan this afternoon?

bootles I have been trembling for hours. I just can't seem to calm down right now even after that phone call. I am 4 weeks 5 days according to LMP. Those numbers seem really high for my gestation so now I'm panicking about it being a molar pregnancy

March I'm so sorry, it fucking stinks. I feel like screaming at the universe on your behalf.

sun I hope the spotting stops and everything is OK. I was also told the hcg levels in your blood were less important than the increase shown over 48 hours so sounds like great news to me.

Tomcat excellent news on the counselling. I found it really helped to talk to someone who was paid to sit and listen to me! It meant I didn't feel guilty about burdening my friends, or being all 'me me' when there was stuff going on in their lives as well.

onestep I've gone wheat free in an attempt to move ov forward and get a longer lp. Apparently wheat can affect hormones as well as have an inflammatory effect. I managed a better balance last year last time I quit wheat but still didn't get pg until I had the iui. I was also taking shit loads of Chinese medicine on top of the acupuncture so who knows what worked?! The trouble is you don't want to try just one thing at a time as it would take years and you'd have no eggs left...
Anyway, I've been 95% wheat free now for 2 weeks. I avoid it during meals but I'm not going to turn down cake if someone offers it to me , or be awkward when someone else is cooking (ie at the wedding this weekend). In my book it's about not totally depriving yourself, otherwise it would make you miserable... I made a nice chocolate orange cake (Nigella Lawson) that was wheat free and that tasted good, so it's not all bad...

I had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for 3 years and I have really bad hayfever (and a shellfish allergy). I don't think it's all a coincidence.
March mentioned the number of teachers on here. There are a disproportionate number of teachers on the infertility threads as well, I'm not convinced that's a total coincidence either!! Not that I'm a teacher right now but it's almost a year since I quit and I thought the reduced stress levels might have produced a miracle bythesea I definitely have a physical reaction to stress. The CFS hit me during a very stressful divorce at the same time as a new head started at school who was hounding out all existing staff to move his mates across...

Any news from Mrsd yet?

In the continuing drama my end, my Dad now has C Difficile. Bloody marvellous. I couldn't visit this weekend as we were at a wedding and we're away again this weekend. I was going to go over tonight but I'm not feeling well enough to do a 4 hour round trip as I've been feeling tired/nauseous/headachy all day. It's times like these I wish I lived just a little closer.

bythesea 24 weeks - that's brilliant!

Ooo, Littlebear good for you .

They want to scan me Friday. I imagine it's to rule out ectopic because of the bleed - then my consultant said she'd start me on the Fragmin.

barking so sorry to hear about your Dad . Is that a hospital related infection?

barking sorry to hear about your dad

I think mrsd scan was at 4....

Barking, totally agree, I think it would be near impossible for me to give up bread!

That's awful for your dad, wishing him well.

On a completely different note, and sorry to chat on about myself. But I've just done a opk and it's positive, my af only finally stopped on Sat. I don't think I've ever ovulated on day 9 before!? I've had sore boobs all day and massively bloated so thought I'd do a opk and it came up positive straight away.

Onestep have you tested negative yet post miscarriage?

Sorry I've missed so much but here goes for a mini catch up!

sebs those numbers look great, definite good doubling. Everything crossed for a lovely scan on fri and no more spotting.

march hope you're ok lovely. Been thinking of you today. It's just so shit. Hope you're home now.

peqit welcome and so sorry about your losses. Can't advise on the Erpc as mine were either natural or medical but I've never heard anything bad about them. Hope it's not too bad. Do give yourself time to recover and let it sink in too xx

barking sorry to hear about your dad- my grandad had C Difficile in his nursing home and it wasn't very nice from what I remember. Hope you're feeling better too.

bythesea I love Bruges. We got engaged there. Very jealous, I'd love to go back!

cheesy that sounds promising! Fingers crossed.

mrsd hope scan is going wonderfully.

freckle how was your Leeds appointment? I've just been sent yet another appointment time for my first appointment!!!! They really don't know their arse from their elbow!

Afm I'm 9dpo and have been feeling sick for the last two days (though have dropped my calories so probably am just starving!) Also very crampy today so feel like af is around somewhere. Can prog give these symptoms? Poas yesterday I know I know what was I thinking! but definitely no line. I might test again tomorrow, or maybe wed? I totally hate this ridiculous symptom spotting tww!

Sorry for missing so many but can't go any further back on my phone so relying on my shit memory.

Hi Seb, my last mc was at 4wks 4 days back in mid Feb. Waited 2 clear cycles and went to see Prof Quenby at Coventry. Last cycle just gone I started on Progesterone. Now I'm on day 9 of my next cycle. My cycles are nearly alway reg as clockwork, ovulate on day 15/16. Maybe Progesterone has changed something this month!?

I would be doing an hpt just to rule that out first of all. Secondly are you having any other signs that you're ovulating, EWCM, open cervix etc?

Minnie everything crossed for you darling xx

Seb no other signs, good idea I'll do an hpt in a bit. V v confused!?

barking - so sorry to hear about your dad. He seems to be having a really shit time of things at the moment, bless him.

sebs - don't panic about molar hun - those levels look consistent with the ranges in the chart that tanny sent. In my only pg where they measured hcg mine was 11,000 at 5+1 and it wasn't molar.

Getting anxious about mrsd.

X

And minnie - the TWW is shit. Fingers crossed that this is your month and the symptoms are because you are upduffed! x

Sebs hoping those numbers are a good sign...

Barking your poor Dad. Thinking of you and your family - I know it must be really taking it's toll.

So I saw Mr Watts this afternoon. He's prescribed more cyclogest to take me to 12 wks but wants me to stay on the clexane throughout the pregnancy.

Hmm that'll be fun! But hey I'm grateful to be here and the ends justifies the means.

He also wants me to have a cervical scan because I might need a stitch due to my previous lletz procedures. If it's not one thing it's another. He says if I haven't got a consultant appt by my next scan, he'll sort the appointment for me.

He doesn't do obstetrics anymore and I'm gutted he wouldn't be looking after me. But as he's nearing retirement he only works 3 days a week doing early pregnancy, gynaecology and fertility. He's been fab and it really will be a sad day for those women suffering from rmc in Worcestershire when Mr Watts retires

I'm dreading these next two weeks. Feel really really vulnerable