Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 23 - tests, treatment, trying again.

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Buckle up, the threads move like lightening! Tea, sympathy, information, support and combined wisdom to guide you through the maze of testing and treatment for recurrent miscarriage. Newbies always most welcome.

Please start with the traditional recap of your stats.

Thanks cat I did think of you this morning and wondered how you'd managed it!

cloud More spotting is not what you need stating the obvious .
The move abroad for us would be to satisfy DH's itchy feet and get him away from all his mates who are spitting out babies with ease, not improve his job. He's a teacher, so it's a case of wherever the right job is. Europe would have been good but nothing suitable has come up for this September (too late to hand notice in after this Friday) but there's a job in New Zealand that has a January start... Jobs came up in Africa and America but they were August starts, and he's already got a big trip planned for summer so wouldn't be able to start until September.

Mrsd great news, hope it provides some momentary relief, however fleeting! 19 photos?!?!

girlie I'm so sorry it wasn't better news .

confused I'm going to be optimistic on your behalf! If size is ok and it's early for a hb anyway, all sounds good to someone looking in from the outside who is able to be more objective .

floweroct sorry it was a bfn . Are you having the ivf on the nhs? Do you know what protocol you'll be on?

Jady best of luck for tomorrow.

Sending hugs to girlie so sorry this is dragging out with no good news to sustain you. I had a few weeks like this that ended as a loss, I ended up willing the MC to happen because I was so sick of the limbo

confused I think you have reason to be optimistic, measuring right for dates is good at this stage, a viable pregnancy might have a HB at 6 weeks but certainly not all over if it's not clear yet. Keep the faith for your next scan.

mrsd

Has anyone seen the thread on chat about Tommy's advertising their new MC research centre? Their wording has really upset someone who supports them. I was really meh, at least they are funding research, but I'd be interested to see how you lot felt about it, I'm aware it's getting less raw for me now.

Baking, I have to say that the wording in the email I received from Tommy's did upset me ("imagine you've just been told you've had a miscarriage..." etc. Don't need to, thanks!) but I put it down to my hormonal state and thought that at least some talk is better than. no talk, and the research sounds good. I'm rolling with the punches as far as the language is concerned. Not one of their finest, though.

Thanks barking yes it's nhs I'll be on antagonist protocol that's what you were on isn't it?

I haven't seen the tommys thing I'll take a look

I've just read the email - if you go on to their twitter account, someone has tweeted them with a screen shot of the email.

If I'd have got that at my lowest point I would've found that email incredibly distressing.

But I do agree research is needed

floweroct, yes, I did antagonist, far less time injecting as you don't have to do weeks of downregging

baking I went and found that thread. I think given the experiences of the majority of their supporters they'd have been better going down the 'Unfortunately, many of us...' route that someone suggested. It doesn't upset me reading it on that thread, but if I'd opened it at work, unprepared, I don't think I'd have been very happy.

Cloud hope the bleeding stops quickly.

Diddly good news re the scan. Sorry it wasn't great news for confused and girlie. I'm not an expert on scans, but we had a MMC and I remember the sonographer spouting that our baby was 5.2mm and they expected a heartbeat by then, but someone else I spoke to a week later said its not always the case and some take a bit longer to get going, or dates being just slightly out can affect things. Will keep fingers crossed for better news for you at your next scans.

Brummie, bet you are dying to get home for a wee! When will be POAS happening?

I suspect fertility friend was wrong, and that I might have ovulated today, feeling my sensations all day, and we DTD again last night :)

Either that or fertility friend was right and its implantation now but not convinced as not had a cycle that short since conceiving ds2!

girlie - so sorry that you didn't receive more positive news from the scan and that you still haven't got a definitive answer. Big hugs and really hope the next week passes as quickly as it can so you can get some clarity.

confused - as other have said, measuring correctly at 6 weeks does sounds positive. Fingers crossed you will see the hb at your next scan.

mrs - sounding very positive lovely.

Re tommys - definitely a poorly thought through email. Could be very upsetting for someone going through his to receive out of the blue. A shame, because more research is absoluty needed in his area.

Sorry reading back. cloud - sorry you are having bleeding again. Hope you are holding up ok and managing to remain reassured by the scan on Sunday. x

Morning all - oh my life I cannot wait to get home!!! Missing DP and our cats like crazy.

Of course getting home does mean peeing on a stick and I am scared to death of doing it. Scared of it being a bfn and scared of it being a BFP

Cloud big hugs, you must be so frustrated and worried

Loopy hmm could be ov or implantation but loving your thought of DTD anyway!!!

Sleeping in my own bed tonight. Can't wait!!

Glad you think ov has now happened loopy. Hopefully you'll get another little rise to confirm.

Big hugs for today diddly. Hope you've got something nice lined up xxx

Morning all.

Brummie, re DTD I had been trying to get DH to perform every 4-5 days so that at least some sperm were hanging around as I didn't want to miss ovulation. Am so proud of him, Tuesday night he tried and failed three times, but it was him that was insistent about not giving up, and was fourth time lucky . So hopefully we are in with a good chance. Can't control the quality of egg/sperm and whether it develops ok, but if we can make sure there is sperm in place to fertilise each time then hopefully one of them will stick and grow if we keep trying, combined with taking the progesterone and clexane.

Had a temp dip today, which is normal for me at ovulation, although I'm always a bit confused as ive read a few places suggesting that the temp dips on the day of ovulation, but I feel like I get the dip maybe the day after ovulation, as I never have cm the day the temp dips, and my normal is to then see a rise in temp after that, and then a implantation dip about a week later, but have only charted 4 of my pregnancies so none of it is for certain. Today is cd33, so if I had ovulated yesterday, it would make it a 46 day cycle, so I would be 12 dpo the day that I'm due to see Mr Watts.

I haven't gone to coventry but I'm aware you have all been told to take progesterone from 7dpo. I have 18.5 day supply of it, last time it was all a rush and they gave it me as soon as I told them I had a BFP. Should I take it from 7 dpo or from BFP? Just thinking if there is any benefit to taking it early and given that I have some here, should I do that anyhow?

Will try and check the thread later for POAS action Brummie! If we are both lucky, then would be lovely to bump into you on the 3rd February in Worcester lol

Loopy I really feel for you and your DH - I know the feeling of not finishing. My DP was insistent on keeping trying that morning we did it 4 times.

The Cov protocol is to take progesterone from 7 days post ovulation but only for 3 cycles. If not worked after 3 cycles then from BFP. Mr Watts was happy with me taking from 7 days post ov so you certainly could try it

Fingers crossed for us!!!!!!!

Just back from 7 week scan. Hb seen but measuring up at 6+1, so have to go back next week to see if I just ovulated later or its struggling again. All sounding very familiar...

Oh Sun I can't believe this!!! Hopefully you just ovulated later and it's just a bit behind. Fingers crossed.

Big hugs xx

Thanks brummie - only slight glimmer of hope is that I didn't have a period between last mc and this pg, so cycle and ov could just be a bit out. Can't help but feel completely negative about it though. x

Thanks for the scan messages.

Next one will be my real dating scan cat unless I can't wait that long. Don't book in until next week so it will end up being close to 13 wks. Dh has agreed I can have as many scans as I like (amazing for Mr Scrooge himself!). If I start stressing I'm just going to have one.

jady good luck today. Let us know how you get on

Thanks march Just a day to myself whilst dh is at work. Feeling melancholy and emotional but that's my hormones and lack of sleep. Got a bunch of seeds to sow so might try clean up some pots and put some wild flower seeds in one for me to watch grow over the rest of the summer. Hope you are being kind to yourself too. Xx

brummie can't wait for you to get home and put us all out of our misery! When do you plan to poas? Will you wait till tomorrow?

Big wave to everyone else!

Hope Scott's feeding us going ok just. Won't be long now and he'll be home with you

Sorry it wasn't more definitive sun, but hb is a good sign. Stay positive. I know you've been here before, but every pg is different. Really hope this one will surprise you. In the meantime big hugs from me for the difficult week ahead x

sasha, i think the main thing to get your head around is that implantation is a process rather than an event. yes, the egg will be fertilised before the progesterone is started but it can still be a non viable egg.

My understanding is that all fertilised eggs settle in the endometrium ready for implantation and give out chemical signals which indicate whether they are good or bad. A properly prepared lining responds to the chemical signals given out by a bad egg as it starts to nestle in and eventually rejects it. It also responds properly to a good egg by allowing it to continue burrowing in. A lining that's not correctly prepared can't respond properly to the 'bad egg ' signal and allows them to implant further than they should, so it's not until the embryo starts to grow that the body realises is not viable and mc.

I think my last one would have got further if I hadn't been taking the progesterone, but I'd rather my body realised at 4+5 than not realise at all or til much later like the others

Xpost sun sorry didn't rememver you had a scan today. great news about a hb. It sounds promising which i know doesn't help reduce your anxiety. It's not over yet. X

Good luck today jady. Hand holding x

Thanks march and diddly - am trying to muster some positivity!

Do you have a scan too today jady? Will be keeping everything crossed for you. x