Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread 21 - tests, treatment, trying again.

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Buckle up, the threads move like lightening! Tea, sympathy, information, support and combined wisdom to guide you through the maze of testing and treatment for recurrent miscarriage. Newbies always most welcome.

Please start with the traditional recap of your stats.

jady I have a 6 week scan this week with the NHS, I live in the north east. The consultant told me to tell the gp to book it and he did.
brummie love that, esp knowing that even the smug get a few unexpected surprises! Tho, how sad that they are fortunate to have a healthy baby and can't yet celebrate that x

Brummie that's so funny - made me chuckle quite a lot!
I always went the wrong way up the one way street and didn't have too many problems - I tried to make sure I had half an hour of lieing down time after as I always had images of vegetable oil leaking out with a slight odour of poo - never happened though!

Interesting, I'm a compulsive stay-up-late person and never get enough sleep. My mum did ponder whether that is contributing to miscarriages and I said "of course not!!!"

I think AF is on the way because I have a huge spot and serious PMT-like anger at the moment.
Parents who let their kids throw rocks (not stones, bloody big 1kg rocks!!!) in the adventure playground.
Parents who let their kids bang into your ankles on their scooters instead of telling them to hold back a bit and despite knowing they're not allowed to ride them in school grounds.
Drivers who don't pull in behind you after you overtake a lorry on a dual carriageway and instead drive next to you for half a mile until you catch up with the next lorry and either have to speed up or slow down to let them past before you can overtake again. The mum at the children's party who spent two hours telling me how wonderful/funny/unique her daughter is.

Oh, and DH.

love it brummie

Also - I didn't use any lube on the back door route. It's quite waxy so just needs a push in and it's done. It did make my poo come out looking quite waxy though

Hehe, I forgot about the marble poo!

So back door clearly the way to go with prog. I'm intrigued though - what actually happens if you put in the front? Does it just leak out? And what happens if you need a poo (when back door obvs!) - is that one wasted? Hmm I think I'm thinking too much about this!!!

Thanks for good wishes ladies. Sorry I haven't caught up.

I still can't work out what to make of RMC clinic yesterday. Consultant said our history (12 loss, cystic hygroma, 7 week natural and ectopic) all seemed like jolly bad luck rather than a single cause. Then she ordered blood tests (8 vials, filled to top) and uterus scan just in case. She mentioned something about uterus shape in one of the mc scans and something about progesterone in the ectopic - but that was after I'd asked about low level of prog in the latter two losses and she's said it was nothing. I still don't really understand ectopic timeline. Good news is they'll scan at 6 weeks if I get pregnant again and fortnightly thereafter as 'there's some evidence that looking after people helps'. Still in a muddle about it allbut probably what I expected.

Then today, massive baby bomb. Closest local friend is 13 weeks. She told me several times in last 6 months or so they weren't trying. In fact she's really struging with being full time parent to her DS (same age as my Dd). Wtf??? Has she been lying to me? Hysterical sobbing on DH which isn't helping with his stress levels. I am so mixed up with jealousy and rage and hurt.

Right now it feels like there's no point working hard to put myself back together again as something else will come along to knock me out again.

Sorry, that's all really selfish and me me me but I just needed to get it out. Don't know who to phone in RL. Might just open a bottle of wine and say sod it to all the work I should do tonight.

Brummie, love the story. Made me chuckle x

Have to say I've only used the front door, I googled it before taking them and found a few IVF boards on forums where they had been told by their consultants that it was better to do it that way, and I just found it a less ewwww method lol. I had a shower in the morning then put one in and stayed on my bed for about 15 minutes until it had turned to mush, and then cleaned myself up and got dressed. Always pushed it in more than the leaflet said to maximise how much got absorbed. Then one at night and lay down for a while. Didn't like the idea of leakage from the back door....

Minnie you are only asking what we are all thinking!!!!

MrsC it's absolutely not selfish whatsoever. Each baby bomb takes my breath away and hearing someone's news / seeing a scan picture never gets any easier.

It is relentless at the moment all the time

I've been reduced to a level of sadness, pain, jealousy, bitterness and resentment that I never thought was possible so you are not alone.

It breaks you and you shouldn't ever apologise for that.

We are here for you.

Fuckers. Wine is the answer

It always made me want a poo, it was really annoying... Just had to suck it up!

mrsC and lots of it is definitely the answer. That was a hard baby bomb. Good news about the scans though.

I can't believe how hospitals' policies on scanning vary so much. I don't stand a look in at my local hospital unless i'm over 7 weeks and spotting, but my ongoing internet research suggests if I use one a little bit further away they're rmc clinic will see you after 2 mc and you can self refer for scans by calling... I think. I shall be having words with my gp...

Grr ...their... Not they're

I used to do it when I got up for a wee in the night to give it chance to be absorbed before breakfast (which gets my digestive system going, if you catch my drift). I started with the front door but had spotting from 6-7 ish weeks with this pg so I switched to the back door because I was worried my cervix was being irritated. Much less messy after that.

Baby bombs are odd things. I've deleted a 12 week scan image these eve and I'm 31 weeks... old habits etc.
Hugs to those struggling tonight. x

Ha!!! That is indeed karma! My friend who was moaning about her pregnancy symptoms hasn't said a word about them since i text her my very carefully scripted reply!

Please girls - do you have any idea what is going on with my cycle??? Please give me some idea/hope! I have been using tesco ov tests for a week now, and despite c.m and spotting (last week) and a crashing headache this week, the tests are still showing no ov!!! The cm is just stighty bloody glue like blobs (sorry) like when ov is over. Its now day 20 of my cycle, and i normally ov day 18. A lit is riding on this month because if i dony get pregnant this month i'll probably hand my notice in at work and be applying for new jobs for september, but i wouldn't be able to have a baby until i had a job that woukd offer maternity leave again... HELP!!!!!

Sorry typos...

Hmmm Freckle I've had a dodge month this month too. I've been tracking ov, just well because even though we aren't quite ready to TTC.

I showed no ovulation this month despite real EWCM - however it could be my screw up.

I've been using my excess of clear blue digital sticks with a holder used previously (which you can do).

So did day 1 and it was negative. It always is on day 1 as it works on an algorithm.

On day 2, the battery died mid test so I had to crack open a new box and use a new holder and re test. Since then, it hasn't shown any ovulation. So potentially that could be my fault as essentially it's a fresh cycle and if there was any rise on day. 2, the holder wouldn't have seen it and stayed at negative until day 15 when I gave up.

So lesson learnt and I will use a new box for our real TTC next month and at £30 for a box daylight robbery I hope it doesn't take too long!!!!

for MrsC, that's a particularly tough one. And don't apologise for how you are feeling, it's shit, it's ok to acknowledge that it's shit and scream or sob or open a bottle of wine. Or all three.

On the subject of bum bullets again, I have never had any leakage at all from the back door. Just in and off I go, no lying down or using a panty liner in case. The muscles prevent it, they're designed to hold everything in! And going to the toilet half an hour later has never been a problem, the body absorbs what it needs pretty quickly.

Brummie that's a brilliant story.

Loving the back door stories. Talking of which, I've been told by consultant I'm not allowed any jiggy jiggy for the time being. Hubby helpfully suggested we try the 'other hole' instead. I said: let me stick summat up YOUR arse and if you like it then yep, no probs....

xpost brummie I'm temping and opking this cycle. cd16 and still no sign of anything more than the faintest line so no ovulation happening any time soon.... Pre iui/ivf I ov'd around cd19-21 and had a 7/8 day LP but I was desperately hoping all the drugs would have taught my cycle what to do....
I started with a cbfm after we'd been ttc for a while with no success. You can imagine why I didn't continue with it for very long!!! Imagine how much I would have spent on sticks 3 years on!

I had a very awkward conversation with my Chinese acupuncturist once where I was talking about progesterone delivery methods and she thought we were talking amour sex in early pg. How we laughed... and how I blushed. Something was definitely lost in translation...

mrsc - hugs hun. Is so tough when you get news like that. Definitely crack out the

I didn't have any leakage from the back door either. minnie - using it up the front isn't that bad an option - just more mess as the wax leeks out. Definitely need at least a liner to keep control of it. I was also spotting and wondered as just mentioned whether it was irritating my cervix, but I think for me the spotting was just the very early stages of the mc. x

*about (strangely ironic typo)

Haha lady - my dh has tried that line too. I had a similar response!

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