Recurrent Miscarriage Support thread 14 - tests, treatment, trying again

[Justonemoretime]

Information, support, hand holding, tea, sympathy and a hell of a lot of combined knowledge - all welcome as we try to make sense of the RMC roller coaster of tests, NHS admin, heart ache and (hopefully) happy endings!
Please start with a recap of your stats :)

Good luck for your scan charlie I'm glad your EPU is open and able to see you tomorrow. Hugs xxxx

Yes, it makes for tough reading doesn't it? Better times ahead, like you said. Belle when is your scan?

Dd will be 3.10 by the time this one is due to make an appearance. I was hoping for a 2.5ish gap, like me and dsis and up until now I have been really stressing about what the increasing gap will mean for our family but now that it looks (fingers crossed so hard) like this one might work out I can focus much more on the positives. Dd will start school in September so I will have a proper mat leave experience with the baby and get her settled at school. Hopefully dd will be big enough to feel like a proper big sis and not too jealous. Finances won't be as tight as dd's childcare costs are much lower now. Still a bit sad they won't be close in age later on but maybe that will reduce the fighting (hopeful!).

Doh I mean today not tomorrow

That was me first time round. Now I know different. But i think everyone pregnant for the first time should be allowed to have the innocence of not knowing about this dark side.

Hugs longest. I know it's been a rough journey but please don't worry about the age gap. 3 years is nothing and in any case there's nearly 8 years between me and my brother and we just adore each other. We are best friends and have so much in common. I never even think about the age gap, we are much closer than any siblings I know :)

It makes me sad but if this child makes it we will have to make the most of it as there almost certainly won't be a DC2 for us. I'll be 35 by the time I have DC1 of this works and given my fertility issues and lack of mc support where I live I can't see us being able to afford the private medical bills that come with it. Makes me sad to know there won't be any siblings for him or her. XxX

Agreed March I'm so glad you had your 1st without this heartache and worry. I wish every woman could get to have that. Mc and infertility is hard :(

I've had almost 6 years of infertility and 2 mcs trying for DC1 so will sadly never know an innocent / happy side of pregnancy. The last 4 years have been so hard, I've cried myself to sleep on more nights than I can count.

I just hope we all I get to have a baby this time. My mum says it will be all be sweeter when my our times come!

XxX

You've had such a hard time cat. I never take for granted how lucky I am to have a dd already. It doesn't make the pain of mc any less but I know that others have a harder time than me.
This one is looking so good for you cat. Hopefully this will be your time and you'll get your happy ending x

Hello!

I'm a newbie too. TTC first child since April.

CP in May
MC at 5.6 weeks in June
CP in July

I'm struggling to get taken seriously because my losses happen so early. I've been referred, but they would only do the clotting tests and suspect hyper fertility... I'm sure you've all had the 'just keep trying' etc. I I think it's an implantation problem - and I have a consultants appointment in a couple of weeks.

I started acupuncture in August and, after a month off trying, I found that I didn't get pregnant straight away like I have previously. I'm now 4 weeks and 2 days pregnant and terrified. Things do feel a little different this time, but it's going to be a long couple of weeks!

I'm taking extra folic acid and 75mg aspirin daily, basically so I'm doing something different. However, the pharmacist said I shouldn't be taking aspirin without my drs approval - what are your thoughts? I didn't believe 75mg was enough to affect a baby and could prevent undiagnosed clotting issues.

hi everyone, just wanted to report tolk sac and 2.8mm embryo seen with tiny flickering hb. maybe third time lucky?

Great news Charlie!!

Great news charlie

Francine I don't know if you read the end of the last thread but I was told by the consultant at the rmc not to take aspirin as recent research suggests that rather than being a safe 'try in just in case' drug, it could actually be as likely to cause a mc than prevent it. I've been diagnosed with factor V leiden thrombophilia so there would be a reason for me to try it with my blood clotting issues but my clinic have advised against. I'm still torn, as I wouldn't start heparin injections until bfp, and I'd rather be doing something earlier than that given my losses have also been early (6 & 7 weeks but in the last case a sac but no embryo on the scan). Just wanted to let you know why you might have been advised to tell your doctor. Some doctors are still prescribing it, it's very much an unknown area, all they know is that it's not as safe as previously thought. The risks might balance for some though.

Hmm. My didn't appear after my first line! Have another Charlie .

Thanks barking

We both know this is just the first hurdle but it's SUCH a relief. I have never had a good scan (that was dildo cam #6 for me, across three pregnancies) so just to see it's little heart beating was special. I said to DH afterwards how magical it was that we created something with it's own HB, even if it doesn't work out. But sonographer said that a HB at 5.5 is a very good sign. Private scan in just over 2 weeks, going to just try to enjoy myself in the meantime! Today I am pregnant!

francine barking covered it but fwiw my GP's response was "ABSOLUTELY NOT" when I asked if I should take aspirin just in case.

Next scan on the 11th longest, a few days after tannys i think. I think it is going to be a rough ten days for me. I just think I will have a total breaakdown if it is bad news again.

Brilliant news Charlie! So great to see the heartbeat so early. What a relief it must be after a scare. Hopefully the rest of the pregnancy will be boringly normal

Yey charlie that's fantastic news!!! Hopefully by the next scan you'll be able to see lots more :)

Francine it's awful they won't take you seriously because the losses are early. Doesn't sound right to me. Could you contact the miscarriage association to see what your rights are? Could you afford pay to see someone privately? I'm on mini aspirin as a 'just in case' but it is controversial and a lot of practitioners do think it's a good idea.

Thanks March. I agree that having a DC must not make loss any easier. Miscarriage is heartbreaking and I feel sure it's something you never completely get over, whatever blessings there are. It sucks!

XXX

Great news charlie! So pleased for you xx

I was advised by my doctor to try the aspirin 75mg for conceiving and in the first trimester of pregnancy, along with double dose folic acid. We were taking ages to conceive (8 months first time, then MMC and 8 months til pregnancy 2) aspirin may have helped conceive as after MC 2, we fell pregnant 2 months after. Doc said as it thins blood it can help with implantation? But I'm not really sure what to believe as nothing seems to help a baby stick in my body. Tried acupuncture this time too. Which again made no difference. But it does mean i get to save some bucks next time

Posted too soon!
Meant that I can save that wasted acupuncture money and start saving for something else instead.
Glad this thread is so full of happy news.
I'm a bit full of doom and gloom still as 3rd MC so recent that its heartwarming to read about positive stories.
I'm also being a big bah humbug about Christmas. As my loss last year happened in the same week as this third one. So christmas is yet again going to be a bit tainted with sadness. So I'll need to get snapped out of that soon.

Evening all
Welcome to the new faces, great news on your scan charlie. No news here, just marking my place, first consultant appointment on Friday.

My details
Me 32, DH 31
No DC
Mc 1 @ 9+6 nov 13
Mc2 @ 10+6 Mar 14
Mc3 @ 10+3 Sep 14

Op for cyst to be removed between mc 2 & 3, they found only one tube & ovary But seem to think this is fine!

Super scan news Charlie. Pleased you could see someone on a Sunday.

Charlie- Excellent news for you.

Longest- I wouldn't worry about the age gap, I will be have a similar gap if I ever fall and stay pregnant. I think siblings at any age either get on or they don't.

Cat- what a rubbish time you have had. My sister has had a similar journey as you and still yet to have her own child. It reminds me every time I see her with my DH how lucky I am.

My very wise manager told me after MC number three that children will come when they are ready. For some people it comes easier but for others it doesn't, but as much as we want to control what happens we can't, so sometimes we just have to go with the flow. She is a bit batty but I like the sentiment. Fingers crossed your bean has decided it's now time. X

I took baby aspirin between mmcs #2 and #3 and am convinced it caused me to implant a Turner's syndrome baby due to messing with the normal selectively of the implantation process. I'd steer well clear as a preparation for TTC. It might help after conception, but most research seems to indicate that heparin gives you the same and more benefits without the risks. I'll post links to some research papers when I get home.
Great news on your scan Charlie

Thanks for your advice, all. Really appreciate it! I'll stop taking the aspirin and see what happens.

Cat - I can afford to do a little private, but not everything. I am hoping that when I see the consultant in a couple of weeks that she'll give me the other standard NHS tests and then I'll probably go private if I'm still having a hard time. I actually met some awesome women at a Miscarriage Association support group in my area, who have helped me understand more about my rights and what's available locally. They gave me the confidence to challenge the dr I saw on my last hospital visit (who told me "I think you're just trying to put a label on it..."), and that's why I'm getting to see the consultant this time. The group was emotionally draining, but good overall. I'd recommend it :)

Sizethree - I feel the same about getting a baby to stick. It's so frustrating and upsetting. Hope you can reclaim Christmas this year though, and start looking forward to time off and loads of food!

Justonemoretime - thank you, I'd love to see those papers.