Recurrent miscarriage testing and beyond.. Part 6.. Over here!

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We have filled up the last thread so here is the next.. Deep breath and grit your teeth for the roller coaster of emotions that continues... Hope tea and butterfly and all find it!

Good morning everyone and tea thanks so much for your reply.

Yes the first loss at 16 weeks was absolutely devastating as we had a normal pregnancy until that point and baby was looking very healthy and happy. I did have some spotting which was frightening but stopped by 12 weeks. They didn't run tests on our baby but did see from a last minute scan that there was a blood clot which had formed behind the placenta and was causing it to detatch, so that is likely what caused us to lose the baby. I know what you mean it sounds strange to ever consider yourself 'lucky' in this situation but at the same time I can appreciate the difference between that loss and my most recent at just over 5 weeks and don't think I could ever be coping with 3 like the first.

I had testing for blood clotting disorders, infections, thyroid function, liver function and other which I can't remember... Nothing abnormal was revealed. We don't have any DC yet but are so ready and just yearning for it really. I know you will all understand that every time there's a new pregnancy on my FB feed it is like a slap in the face and I just can't help those feelings of jealousy. I wouldn't wish this on anyone but I don't want to be the one who has to go through it either.

Anyway, my plan at the moment is to wait until after our wedding on 20th April (we got married in Oz last August but this is our 'official' wedding celebration) and use the time in between to work on being as healthy as possible and see the new OB to find out if he thinks there is more testing that could be valuable. The first thing he said when I got in touch with him is that the future still looks very bright for us and I appreciate his postivity, but I'm sure you'll all know that's small comfort when it feels like we're destined to go through this over and over again.

With regards to implantation bleeding, I know a few people who have actually had it and it was around the time there first period would have been due.

Anyway sorry for the giant post but at least it's a full introduction!!!

Jo xxx

What a lot to catch up on!

Hi Coffee, sorry to hear about your mc's, this is a very welcoming thread, hoe you can find some support here.

Butterfly you poor thing with this weird cycle stuff! Fingers and toes crossed for you. I had implantation bleeding once, of course may have missed it before, but it was the same month that I also had a clear pinch sensation around the time of implantation. Have you had anything like that?

Fingers crossed LandsN, I worry about ectopic every month and this one's no different, here's hoping for good news when you test Monday.

Welcome Justplain, you've been through the wringer. What kind of information are you looking for re ttc again?

Hi Josie, I'm sorry to hear what you've been through, tosecond what someone above wrote, it is crap. I'm also struggling to look after myself as well as I should, it's hard to look after my body when it's not doing what I want. Let's hope we both get back to looking after ourselves properly!

Hi Tea you're much better at the follicular (!) phase than I am, much prefer to 2ww nowadays!

No real news from me. Thankfully, I seem to keep forgetting where I am in my cycle, which is great. I've also had a cold, which has taken the focus a bit. It doesn't stop me from obsessively ss'ing though! I think I've had some pinching sensation around the time of implantation this month. I also think I've got a cyst, quite a painful one, which I last had in my first pregnancy. I googled in the hope that they were pregnancy related but that's not the case. Is that why you were given clomid... grr, can't find who said they were given clomid!!! Can someone comment? I will know by the end of next week if I'm pg. I'm so tempted to pop the occassional aspirin but I was told to wait, and I know it can cause problems with implantation so I'm not.

Hope everyone's looking forward to nice weekends?!

Hi twenty fingers crossed for you too not long until you can test! I'm going to ask my consultant about asprin again she said I didn't need it as my clotting tests were negative but it surely can't do any harm can it? I actually had pinching all the way home from work tonight it wasn't in the lower abdomen it was more at the top of my "bits" is that where you would feel it?

Last time the pinching sensation was so clear, as in "oh, that's where my womb is", but I didn't have it with previous pg's. I don't know if this was the implantation pinching or not, I ss too much now! Anyway, I tried to copy a link but can't. If you google women's reproductive system you get pics of where things are and can therefore work out the where the sensation should be! Don't forget though that all our reproductive bits float around a bit (which I learned at my last mc) too so a pic isn't going to be accurate 100%.

That's great you know that you don't need aspirin. Do be careful, I think it can be harmful but I can't recall. I was told to take it because they now advise all women from 40+ to take it and I just fall into that category! Do you have any other symptoms?!

Mine seems to be quite low in comparison to where the picture shows the uterus to be but a lot of the pregnancy stuff I've read says the uterus is tucked behind the pubic bone so I'm confused! Yesterday when I woke up and went to turn over I got a really sharp stitch type pain on the right hand side it made me shout but it lasted seconds then went but was a bit tender for a little while after that. I've got brown spotting this is now the 3rd day but it's only when I wipe I've had lower back cramps on and off and my boobs are sore, I suppose they could all be af symptoms too but I'm about 9 days away from when it should be due unless
I'm just having a really short cycle!

I read conflicting things about asprin some people take it even when the tests are negative some say you shouldn't which is why I probably need to see what consultant says she said no last time I asked but I feel like I need to do something to prevent it from happening again, guess I'm looking for a miracle really...

I get that looking for a miracle. It sounds like a very confusing cycle too. Have you had cycles like this before? Do you normally get back cramps and sore boobs?

I'm begining to think I'm premenstrual now rather than possibly pg. Ugh! I have to say, I've got a terrible meeting I have to sit through on friday with someone who's been harrassing me, trying to get me to do what they want. I'm refusing, it's an inappropriate request, and they are angry with me. I have a very low threshold for not being liked, I can't bear it!!! That meeting will be all the harder if I'm pms and or just starting af that day!

I can't really say what a normal cycle is for me now really as I've had 2 periods at most inbetween mc and things are still settling down in those cycles so can't really monitor it, before ttc I was on the pill for 10 years. A normal "perfect cycle" which I've had a few of before falling pg the first time would be 29-31 days long with no spotting mid cycle. I'm very lucky compared to a lot of people my cycles are a normal amount of days long so it's not too bad really.
I do get sore boobs but it started very early
this month I've had the odd month where they don't hurt as much, I can also get back cramps but usually during af not. this far in advance. My last cycle was the first following mc and came bang on time so I expected to be back to normal whatever that is!

Sorry you have an awful meeting to go to but god help them if you are premenstrual...give them hell!! I'm a very quiet placid person but my tolerance levels are very low now I think it's all this crap I've been through, I can be outspoken when I would normally avoid confrontation but it is quite funny at times, I need to chill out a bit I think! Have been considering seeing a counsellor to try and get things off my chest to somebody disconnected from the situation x

It sounds like you might still be in the wtf cycle, it can take up to 6 months to normalise, but some think we're more fertile in that 6 months so it's not all bad. Counselling can be useful, although speaking your mind sounds like a good thing too! And yeah, I woke this morning early thinking about that meeting that's still 6 days away, Argh, and then feeling tearful over a radio news slot about random acts of kindness. I don't think ill be able to hold a diplomatic or equanimous mindset anytime soon!

Hi ladies I have just finally given in and done another test and got a bfp :) I am so scared but want to b so happy xx

Congrats LandsN!! Fingers crossed for you. Really hope it works this time. I know its so stressful though and hard to be happy!!

Thank you so much I am going to go to my gp Monday morning and demand tests straight away so hopefully if there is any problem they will find it ASAP and hope the vitamins I have been taking help as that is the only difference I can think of between the 2 I have had and the 3 I lost I was not taking them so worth a try x

Wonderful news LandsN! It's a complex time feelings-wise. You've reminded, a friend once suggested I let both the good and the bad feelings to sit alongside each other, not to fight the one or force the other, as that wasn't reality. Hope that's not too wooly! Fx your GP is helpful Monday!!!

Thank you I am not going to go quietly this time I have learnt too much valuable info of the lovely ladies on here so I can see some demanding coming loli just hope I get passed that dreaded 9 weeks I cant seem to get passed x

Congratulation Lands hope it all goes well for you this time! What vitamins have you been taking this time I might look i to taking some extra things?

Af started this morning so now I know what the spotting was, my cyles must still be messed up I've never had one this short if I count today as day 1 as that's when red bleeding started it was 24 days.
I think I might get some opk's for this next month to make sure I am ovulating, this month I either didn't ov or it happened way earlier than I thought.

Congratulations Lands! I won't do all the super excited stuff as I know it's a cautious time as well as an exciting one. Let us know what the docs say. X

Thanks I have been taking seven seas trying for a baby ( original name lol) might b wrong but worth a try ! Thank you so much all of u it's still sinking in as I took me 2 years to conceive last time xx

Butterfly sorry AF arrived and that you're having a crazy cycle. How are you feeling?

I also take a million vitamins which one consultant I saw (who's quite into alternative stuff) reviewed and said sounded like a good combination. FWIW I take these which are expensive but good quality (I hope!) I also take high strength vitamin c (500mg x 2 a day) and vitamin D and high strength flaxseed oil (for omega 3). I rattle when I walk!!

I am going to check with my gp Monday that they are the best ones to take I am a bit nervous this morning thinking about what tests etc they will do just hope that they find the problem or the vitamins are the answer its the only difference I can see but I am no doctor x

To be honest I doubt your GP will know about the vitamins. I've never found they have specific rmc knowledge letalone knowledge of a holistic approach to encourage successful pregnancies. Although its worth checking that what you take won't do any harm.

My gp is a bit of a wet weekend tbh going to contact my midwife for advice too just want to cover all bases x

Hi tea I feel ok I wouldn't say I'm too disappointed that af has arrived just trying to think well at least it's giving my body a bit of time to recover and it obviously wasn't ready for a pregnancy this month. I think I might need to look at what I could be taking all I take is a combined folic acid & vit d tablet, I was taking pregnacare but they made me feel sick I thought I had morning sickness! I have a good diet and eat a lot of fruit & veg so hopefully I get some goodness from that but supplements might help x

Glad you're doing ok Butterfly. Sounds like your body is just taking time to readjust. It's good in a way as means its out of your control an you get a breather before another hideous 2ww!!

I started taking the vits with DD and that pregnancy worked. So I started taking them again after 2nd mc and now feel like I can't stop in case they're important!! Costs me a fortune but I have managed to avoid all the nasty illnesses going round so wonder whether it has strengthened my immune system. I also like feeling like I'm doing something.

I'm just not used to being this messed up with erpc's my cycle went straight back to normal no messing about. If I hadn't started to bleed I would have said I was pregnant by the way I feel, my boobs are unbearably sore I've slept on the sofa for nearly 3 hours this afternoon and I've been having the weirdest most vivid dreams! I'm still only bleeding brown had a touch of red but it's gone again def too much to be ib though.

I might pop to the health shop and see what they can recommend in way of vits if I can't have asprin might as well try something else, at least I will feel like I'm doing something x

Boo, that damn af butterfly, and by the way, b6 is meant to lengthen luteal phase so you might look into that, it stabalised my erratic cycles after my last mc and I didn't wait to see how it was going to be this time, just started taking them and cycle has been ok. The reason I started taking my vitamin mix was because of my trouble hormonal mood swings Anne it helped immediately. sounds like your hormones are all over they place, that's gotta be tough. Sorry for typos, am on phone!

Hey twenty :) is the b6 ok to take once your cycles have stabilisied like if you fell pg while taking it would that be ok? I'm sick of feeling so up and down it has got to be my hormones I'm not normally like this.
Had a little cry earlier which I probably needed, not because af started though I was texting my cousin who is more like a sister and we were just talking about things I jokingly said to her at this rate you might have to be my surrogate, she replied I would do anything for you I would do it for you without a 2nd thought but you won't need me to. That got the tears going just at how lovely she is x