hi 12 weeks pg, how can i tell the difference between dark urine and blood when i wipe?

[whiteandyelloworchid]

I think.I might be bleeding, as when I wipe, after a wee I can see a stain on the toilet paper its a sort of Brown colour, do you think it could be blood in the urine, or perhaps just dark urine ?

Don't know if I should try and contact midwife/Dr or a and e or if the NHS make me wait a couple of days for a scan perhaps I should see if j can get in the private place today that charges fifty pounds ?

I just stressed and bit sure what to do

Lovely, if you find some comfort in the earrings then maybe it would be nice for you to buy something special now.

So glad herbs has wise words about the photos.

the placenta is really that big at that stage
the baby was only 3cmlong
so i though the placenta was smaller than the baby?

yes i do feel comfort in the earrings, little star shaped diamontes
i must find something nice, for now, which will always be special to me
doesnt need to be expensive, in fact if its not expensive thats better

Mine was. I was 9 weeks and baby was 2.1 cm. placenta was almost fist size.

white it's so kind of you to try to help me on your thread! The guilt stems from something I now can't change (and couldn't really have done differently then either) so I am not going to sidetrack your thread about it.

The placenta ends up being enormous - about as big as baby at full gestation birth IIRC - so I'm not surprised it's big at this stage.

Glad our collective hand holding is helping. The isolation/loneliness is awful.

Hi, sorry to everyone who has experienced/are experiencing miscarriage.
white, when I had my first miscarriage this March at 10-11 wks I started spotting on a Saturday which progressed to heavier bleeding over the next three days, very heavy on the Wednesday night/thurs morning with at one stage a real urge to push. I realize now that was when the baby had come away, when I had my scan on thurs morning baby had gone though a lot of tissue remained. I opted for natural management , continued to bleed though less heavily and started with strong cramps on the following Saturday when I passed the placenta. As Hayle has said it can be surprisingly big, a bit of a shock if you're not expecting to see it. After this the pain settled, bleeding continued for a further week.
Miscarriages seem to vary a lot, I miscarried again at 6 weeks in June and it was like a heavy painful period that finished within a week.
I'm having my third miscarriage now, had a scan at 10 weeks to find baby had died a few days before but had no symptoms. We thought we'd go for natural management again but 10 days later I'm starting with cramping sensations but no blood or discharge yet at all.
I really liked your idea for a little service for your baby. I'm always going to associate Ed Sheeran's song "Small Bump" with my miscarriages.

horatia, i want to help you if i can, i feel better when i help people.
whatever you wish you could change, you did what was best for you at the time, which means it was the best thing.

irish so sorry your going through this now, i wish there was a magic wand option.

i just dont want an internal scan

Lovely, try not to worry about what might happen tomorrow.

One day at a time.

I hope you get another good nights sleep tonight x

Orchid, a piece of jewellery is a lovely way to remember your baby. You could choose the birthstone of the month you conceived or got your positive test, or any other date that feels right.

Burying the baby and taking photos doesn't sound at all odd to me. I think it'd be very sad to ignore any urges you have just now "in case others think it's odd." Everyone's experience is personal and doing things in the way that feels right to you will hopefully help you accept your loss.

For tomorrow, as well as focussing on what's happening now, it could be a good opportunity to ask any questions about what to expect in the future too. Things like when your cycle should resume etc that you may not have thought about yet.

Thinking of you and your hospital apt today (it's Tuesday already here in Sydney). Take care. X

Morning white thinking of you today xx

Good morning white. Hope you've had a good rest.

All the best for today. I know you don't fancy an internal scan ("dildocam" ) but it truly is the best/only way for them to work out what's going on. Promise yourself a big Crunchie or or afterwards.

Orchid how are you? Hoping you got on ok today, been thinking of you

Hope you're ok white x

hi guys, was in hospital a fair while as saw the nurse, then the sonograher, then the dr.
struggled walking from the car to the hospital.
first time out of the house since losing the baby.

anyway the nurse was really kind, she said i'd done amazing. and we both coped really well.
she did look at my photos and she said, the baby was lovely, which i thought was nice of her to say.
first of all she said what i thought was the placenta probably wasn't, but then when she could see how worried i was that maybe the placenta was still in there, she started saying oh well maybe that was the placenta.
i think she was saying anythign to help me feel less stressed!
but she was really kind to me

then i went for a scan, told them i couldnt handle an internal one, and they said if i drink plenty of water an abdominal one will be fine.
so i drank 4 glasses.
then at the scan, they said theres no trace of placenta.
i said are you sure, and the sonograger was very confident it has all gone.
she said theres no vasicity or something, i said whats that?
she replied, it means there no blood supply going into the womb, and if there was any placenta there would be.
she said the wombwas full of clots and blood, and that will take upto three weeks to pass

so that went quite well, best we could hope for under the circumstances

then saw the dr.
who said i really should have come into hosptal when the blood loss got that bad.
she was nice to me as well, so luckily ive been treated decently thankfully
she just said i should drink 2 and a half litres of fluid daily to help with the volume of fluid in my body.
they did a full blood count and where supposed to call me tonight with the results

so i was glad i went, felt alot better after talking to some health professionals about it, and showing the nurse the photos

bleeding fairly heavily not not scarily so.
using paracetamol, hot water bottle, and drink as much as poss

suppose im going to feel a bit wiped out for a while going to get some of that tonic stuff reccomened on here

thank you so so much for helping me through this, i hope to god i am over the worse now, even though its going to be a bit grim for a while.

you have helped me more than you know and i really appricate your kindness and time
hope i will be able to help others in the way you have helped me

White it must a relief to be the other side of that! well done it must have been tremendously hard today. Just a reminder that it was floradix with the iron in it and metatone with the b bits in it.

Take care. I hope next time I see you on a thread it is for something happier, you've lost definitely been through the mill and I really hope things turn around for you x

thanks so much mrs mop

can i take both tonics together?, i think i need it

also i havent seen my beautiful dd since sat am.
hopefully shes coming home tomorrow, dh is having wed and thu off
so hoping on thu we can do something nice together.
any ideas what i might be able to manage?

thanks for all the help i wont forget it

Glad you got positive news.
We took dd (3.6) to the cinema the day after I lost baby. It was however booked day before (not knowing when mc wild happen) but found this was manageable. Sitting down with toilets nearby...

oh cinema, thats a great idea.
thanks for that.
think i could manage that by thu hopefully.

the hotwater bottle is helping ease the pains.

thanks again for the support

Depending on how old your dc is brave us a good one :-)

Hey white have been thinking about you all day, you must be so relieved today is over and you must also be exhausted.

So pleased everything was as ok as it could be and that you didn't have to have an internal scan.

Sounds like that's the worst of it over, physically at least. Glad you are comfortable with paracetamol and a hot water bottle.

You must be desperate to see your dd tomorrow as i'm sure she must be to see you too, lots of cuddles and cinema sounds like a great idea.

I hope you and dh have a good nights sleep, keep your strength up xx

hi we will be getting dd back today, i cannot wait to give her the biggest bear hug of all time.
had a phonecall fromt he hospital this am, they were expecting me to go intoday, appernetly my name was down on the appointment list but they didnt know
??
they said oh don't worry about it though

the blood test results have come back and hb is 10.1.
so they said iron tabs for one month, and to treat myself to a few steaks
the nurse said to me i was a really nice patient.
have decided thu we are going to watch a film at home then go for lunch together us three.

the blood is not as bright red anymore, so i take it thats a good sign.
i was finding a hot water bottle was really helping alot last night.

thanks for pulling me through, i think, and hope, ive physically come through the worse now.

White ask the dr for ferrous fumarate it's much easier on the stomach. I am very aneamic at the moment too so I'm on them 3 times a day. The metatone is a short term tonic, ideal for boosting you up again. Should be taken for 3 times a day for 3 days. The floradix is great for longer term use as it's gentle iron tonic. Hope that's helpful and not too confusing. I find the more physically strong you become it helps you better cope with the emotional.

You cam easily take a hot water bottle to the cinema in a bag. I've done this myself. As soon as the lights go out no body knows!

Hope you are having a lovely time with your dd am sure seeing her must have given you a needed boost. x

oh yes one of my rl friends, who is a pharamacist told me to get ferrous fumarate.
so went tescos this pm, to get more pads, got through 6 packs already!
metatone, ferrous fumarate, more paracetamol
i nearly got some of those curaheat things you know that are for period pains.?
dh is going back to work on fri, so hopefully we will have a nice-ish day tomoorrow
me and dd are going to my mum and dads friday, for some looking after
feel better having dd here, shes sitting on my lap at having a cuddle watching jake, only way i can get her to sit still and cuddle me for half an hour lol

Glad you're feeling a bit better today and have been out.

Must be lovely having dd to cuddle again x