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hi 12 weeks pg, how can i tell the difference between dark urine and blood when i wipe?

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whiteandyelloworchid · 24/08/2012 10:42

I think.I might be bleeding, as when I wipe, after a wee I can see a stain on the toilet paper its a sort of Brown colour, do you think it could be blood in the urine, or perhaps just dark urine ?

Don't know if I should try and contact midwife/Dr or a and e or if the NHS make me wait a couple of days for a scan perhaps I should see if j can get in the private place today that charges fifty pounds ?

I just stressed and bit sure what to do

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monkeybutt · 26/08/2012 07:44

White I'm sat here in tears for you. I am so sorry this has happened.

Please call a Dr if the bleeding persists.

Thinking of you and your family. xxx

lotsofcheese · 26/08/2012 07:59

Hello again orchid I'm sorry I didn't get to reply last night as I'd gone to bed. Have just read your updates & can only send you big hugs for what you've been through.

I hope you're getting some rest now & can start the grieving & recovery process.

Also just a thought, but it might be worth phoning EPU & asking if it's appropriate for any tests on the tissues/baby - if this is your 3rd loss or more. Of course you may not wish to do this, for various reasons.

I bought two planted trees for the front of the house & have them on the doorstep, in memory of the 2 babies I have lost. I know a friend who named a star & another who wrote a letter to her lost baby, saying how she wished he/she could have stayed & how much they were loved/wanted.

Your idea of a poem is lovely.

Again, I'm so sorry you've gone through this. It's so awful to get to 11/12 weeks & think everything is ok, when it's not.

Take good care of yourself xx

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey · 26/08/2012 08:12

Morning whiteyour am so sorry to read your update.

I think your idea is lovely and will be a good way to help you say goodbye.

I hope you are able to rest today and hopefully the bleeding will lessen, if it hasn't already and you will not be in so much pain.

I am sorry, massive hugs xx

mrsmopsmissingmojo · 26/08/2012 08:29

Hello White you poor love. What a night you must have had. I'm hoping the pain is slightly less for you now and physically you are coping. Please look after yourself. Don't over do anything. Just let yourself start to heal.

As mentioned upthread i had an mc but I just wanted to share my mums story. She had 4 mcs before she finally got a baby. One at 12 wks, one at 16 wks, another at 8 wks and then again at 12 wks. This was early seventies, almost one a year, Until she finally got there. If she hadn't had specialist help from St thomass In London she probably never would have got there. In the end they stitched her cervix which enabled her not to mc. A small tiny stitch but it worked amazingly. When the family was complete she had 3 children this way. My little brother was born at 28 wks and in special care for 3 mts and even he was ok. I don't know what specialist care might be available to you for the future and probably isn't the ficus right now. The totally gutting feeling of loss is horrendous, but explore every avenue and don't loose hope just yet. Smile

pixiestix · 26/08/2012 09:17

Your plans sound beautiful White xx

CailinDana · 26/08/2012 10:01

Your plans for the baby sound lovely white. I'm glad things are moving along for you. Any thoughts on the name?

AllMuddledUp · 26/08/2012 10:37

Orchid I am so sorry for your loss. I think your plans for the baby sound lovely, how about planting a camellia or another small tree type plant? Please take care of yourself.

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whiteandyelloworchid · 26/08/2012 10:57

Hi thanks for the support you are really helping me more than you know.

We nearly called an ambulance an hour after the baby passed as the bleeding was v heavy and I'm.passing a lot of clots, but held off as don't want surgery after all that

Bleeding quite a lot, and passing a lot of large clots sort of bigger than fiftey pence piece size, looks like lining of the womb, does this sound normal? Still getting pains but still losing clots, don't know it would be better if I just sat on the toilet
I'm sitting up in bed

Been.looking up readings poems and unisex names

Thank you all so much for helping me through this.

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CailinDana · 26/08/2012 11:04

The bleeding can be very heavy. If you start feeling unwell at all or the bleeding doesn't start to calm down in a few hours it might be worth giving NHS direct a ring to see what they say. Don't forget to get a tonic with iron in it as that'll help to replenish your blood levels and make you feel less tired.

How are you feeling in yourself?

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whiteandyelloworchid · 26/08/2012 11:16

I don't feel like I have any signs of infection
Suprised its still hurting, is this the pain of passing the clots and the pain of the lining shedding ?

Atm I just feel in shock and am still in survial mode until I feel s bit less worried about the bleeding
My overwhelming feel is just feel lost andshocked

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whiteandyelloworchid · 26/08/2012 11:26

Do u hink I'm better off in bed or shall I just go and sit in the toilet?

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HoratiaWinwood · 26/08/2012 11:40

Sounds like baby was beautiful. All the best finding the right name. I felt that my baby was a girl, and we had already referred to her as the Mouse, so we didn't rename her IYSWIM.

I alternated between bed and sofa. Toilet, although logical, would have been miserable. Do you have dark towels you could sit/lie on?

((( )))

CailinDana · 26/08/2012 11:56

I agree with Horatia that sitting on the toilet would be pretty grim, I think you should avoid it if you can. Just use nice big towels and take plenty of trips to the toilet - take a couple of showers during the day if that makes you feel more clean and comfortable.

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whiteandyelloworchid · 26/08/2012 12:07

Just tried sitting on the toilet. Went all funny, went bit light headed. Suddenly had a damp forhead.
Quickly laid down feel better quite quickly.

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whiteandyelloworchid · 26/08/2012 12:08

I thought once the baby past it wouldn't be his bad,I guess the lining has to.come out

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CailinDana · 26/08/2012 12:18

Yeah the womb needs to clear out, and it takes time. Your blood pressure is probably a bit low from the bleeding so try to stay sitting/lying down. Drink plenty and eat as much as you can.

AnneKay · 26/08/2012 12:34

Firstly try and relax, panicking can trigger off things. If it is definitely fresh blood, get into bed, put your feet up and call the midwife/doctor straight away. Even if it is blood, resting with feet up and not getting up from bed is one of the first things that can help prevent a miscarriage. I should know, I had 4. I was kept in bed for all nine months for my successful baby! and did have 'spotting' in the early months. So please do not panic, but also take it seriously and put your feet up in bed and stay there.

CailinDana · 26/08/2012 12:41

Anne the OP has already lost her baby.

AnneKay · 26/08/2012 12:49

White, I am so sorry - I did not read your later messages, this is my first time on mumsnet and I only read the first message. All my thoughts and prayers with you. I've been there four times and know how you feel - shellshocked. But God willing next time all will be well. Take care of yourself and get through all the necessary procedures so that the body can start healing. The grieving will take time to heal, but if possible, after a few weeks, take a small holiday a weekend away from home or even a day at the seaside. Your heart, mind and body will begin to heal and prepare for the next one, not very soon, wait a while and try again in good time.

HoratiaWinwood · 26/08/2012 13:32

Anne, I must say for the sake of anyone else reading this thread, and for the poor OP, for most women it simply isn't true that what you do can cause or prevent a miscarriage. One should rest for one's own sake, not out of a misguided notion that it might make a difference.

white - although this stage is pretty revolting, draining and wearing, I would say you're past the worst. I'm glad for you that things have happened relatively quickly, while your childcare arrangements were easily arranged. Please continue to be kind to yourself. Are you keeping entertained/diverted/distracted?

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 26/08/2012 13:44

Anne miscarriages that are caused by something the mother has done are extremely rare. I actually find the tone of your posts quite offensive.
OP sending huge hugs, I have had 2 MC, be kind to yourself over the next days and weeks.

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whiteandyelloworchid · 26/08/2012 13:47

Thanks so much for being there for me

I was on the brink of calling an ambuldnce again, when I had that faint spell, that frightened me, esp as I suddenly turned allcalmy and could hear whistling in.my ears

The dizzyness did quickly settle when I laid down for 10 mins.

Had a shower that seems to have helped a bit.

This is so frigtening much much more so than I ever thought it could be

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monkeybutt · 26/08/2012 13:52

keep drinking lots of water, white. I would bypass NHS direct and call an ambulance if you carry on losing alot of blood and feeling faint. x

blackteaplease · 26/08/2012 13:55

White The dizziness will be due to the blood loss and perhaps you stood up to quickly. If it continues then call NHS direct.

The bloodloss should slow down soon. Do you have a date for a confirmation scan?

Take care x

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whiteandyelloworchid · 26/08/2012 14:09

I'm not feeling dizzy when I lie down it just happened once when I'd been sitting on the loo a while then went to go back to my bed

Seriously I cannot thankyou enough for the help

If I get another faint spellvthink ill tell dh to get an ambulance

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