hi 12 weeks pg, how can i tell the difference between dark urine and blood when i wipe?

[whiteandyelloworchid]

I think.I might be bleeding, as when I wipe, after a wee I can see a stain on the toilet paper its a sort of Brown colour, do you think it could be blood in the urine, or perhaps just dark urine ?

Don't know if I should try and contact midwife/Dr or a and e or if the NHS make me wait a couple of days for a scan perhaps I should see if j can get in the private place today that charges fifty pounds ?

I just stressed and bit sure what to do

Hi white, mine was abit of a strange situation, in that I was bleeding from the start but tests showed pregnancy progressing ( bloods) stoped bleeding then started again 3 days later, mc confirmed a week later, I would only have been 5/6 wks beaded on what bloods were but I'm still bleeding now, over 3 wks in total but 2 since mc confirmed, as I was bleeding and bloods went down in just left for nature to take its course but I'm hopeful it will end soon as starting to get me down now,
My last mc was at around 8wks but again happened naturally, I had brown spotting on the Thursday just one bit, nothing the next day abit the next then on the sunday it came in abig gush and I had to go to a &e it was clear to me it had all gone because there was so much blood that time, I guess if you are bleeding it may well happen for you in the next few days but limbo land is a horrible place to be

Oh on the cramping front mine was relatively pain free first time just a pulling sensation but this time had lower back ache and feel out of sorts
For me the worst part now was having 2 in a row and thinking there might be a problem if I was to conceive again but at the same time it is a risk im willing to take as really want another dc.
It makes pregnancy a very scarey thing though and you don't feel you can relax ( for me anyway)
I am also in a thread in conception which is TTC after mc and there are alot of really nice girls on there, one who has just had the same sinareo as you and we all talk about where we are in the cycle and what are experience was like etc it can be nice to be with others who are in the same situation x

lots of cheese would you mind telling me what happened with yours as we were both ata similar stage

kittywhat happened when you got to a and e?

this sadly isn't my first baby loss, my son was born in feb,this year, but sadly he died shortly after he was born due to massive heart problems, we held him on our arms and watched him die, he is now buried at our churchyard.
so this pregnancy has been quite an ordeal mentally anyway

i am waivering and thinking of goinginto hospital for the medical management.
i just dont know what to do for the best

alos im bleeding less than a period so is that a sign that nothing much is happening yet?

It might take a while to get going.

So sorry to hear about your son, what was his name? How are you feeling at the moment?

cailin is it ok if i pm you his name, as i don't feel right saying it on such a public forum?

when will i know when it has really started?

how long do you think it will take to a get going and b pass the baby fetus

at the moment i seem to be coping ok ish, but just worried how long this could go on for, if i knew it would be two days or whatever it would give me a focus as such

pm'ed you my sons name

Of course that's ok.

I had a miscarriage at about 9 weeks, earlier than you, and it started very slowly for a couple of days then it was like a heavy period, so I had to change pads every 2 hours or so. It wasn't very painful really.

I think it varies a lot from person to person. It's very hard to know when the fetus will pass, but remember that it is very tiny so you might not notice. I did notice with mine, but I could easily have missed it if I had been on the toilet at the time.

If you start to feel feverish or unwell then it's time to go back to the hospital as things might not be progressing properly.

Oh lovely i wish i had some wise words for you, i had a mc last year but i was a couple of weeks less than you.

It is the most bizzare situation, something so important and sad is happening but in my case, it didn't really hurt any more than period pains and i felt like it should have.

Am so sorry to hear about your son too, sending you lots of love.

cailin, did you have expectant management?
ive been bleeding today and yesterday, today is heavier than yesterday so hoping thats a good sign.

hokey thanks for thinking of me, did you have expectant management

i'm thinking of calling the hospital tomorrow, but if i have the tabs tomorrow then go in tue, perhasp i would have passed the main part by then?

could really do with a crystal ball

Not exactly white - I didn't deal well with it at all, I just pretended it wasn't happening, so I didn't even go to the hospital. I just saw the bleeding, realised what was happening and carried on. Not a good way to deal with it, and I ended up a mess a few weeks later. Luckily for me it all went smoothly, but it was very foolish of me to be so blase because there is a risk of infection and complications with MC. You are dealing with it far better by going the hospital and talking about it.

As far as I know from others, at 12 weeks they still consider it quite an early miscarriage so they expect your body to deal with it without much problem. There can be difficulties requiring a D and C, but unless that happens they prefer to let things go naturally to avoid any risks from procedures.

I was treated really badly, i was 9 weeks too.

It was a Saturday when i started bleeding so i called ooh doctor. A doctor called me back and when i told him what was happening he said "so what do you want me to do about it"

I was gobsmacked, he went on to say that there was nothing they could do for me, i could go in and be given some pain killers but there wasn't really any point.

I went to my gp on the Monday, i had bled a lot so knew it was all over. She really apologised for the way i was treated and said i could have a scan in a couple of weeks, when they called me though i said there was no point and that was that.

I just stayed at home, took some painkillers and dh looked after me.

I've heard of others who have come across that attitude too Hokey, it's awful. Basically a lot of doctors see an "early" miscarriage (although I don't consider 12 weeks early, you've been pregnant for three months for fuck's sake!) as just something that happens and they have no sympathy at all. Knowing doctors' views on it is part of what made me not deal with it. I just felt like I would get no sympathy so I didn't bother.

I totally appreciate it i was only 9 weeks and not more like white but we were pleased and excited about another dc and the lack of compassion was jaw dropping.

If it happened again i wouldn't even bother with my local hospital.

But anyway enough about me, i hope you are able to rest tonight white

They should have taken you seriously Hokey. Miscarriages aren't uncommon but they're not a "normal" event - they do require monitoring and at least some counselling and assistance. Unfortunately that's too much to ask for from a lot of dickheads doctors.

oh my godness i am so sorry you have been treated so awfully
what a bastard the ooh dr was.
people like that should not be drs

if anyone was mean to me it would tip me over the edge
feel mental enough already

cailin, thats so awful you felt people wouldnt be kind so you didnt get help.
the medical profession has alot to answer for.

i kinda wish they had tried to influence me on a particular management route, as it would have been helpful if they had said, you can have any of these three treatments, but i think x would be best for your medical circumstances

no need to say enough about me, hearing other experiences helps me to know what i could expect
thankyou for sharing that with me.

i'm taking two paracetamol and codeine before bed, hopefully that will help. it did last night.

I'm no expert but as far as I know they really favour trying not to intervene. If you weren't bleeding at all they might have given you some medication to get it started but seeing as you are they would then choose to let it run its course. I know it's horrible waiting though.

It wasn't just the fear of doctors being nasty that stopped me from getting help, it was a lot of my own issues too.

I must head to bed, I hope your night goes ok and you manage to sleep well.

Hope you were/are ok and were able to deal with it Cailin, sleep well.

white i hope you get some rest and have a pain free night.

Will check on you in the morning x

I'm so sorry about your loss and about your son too.

I hope things aren't to painful / frightening for you.

Take care of yourself, my thoughts are with you and your dh.

thanks for helping me through, kind of you, very kind.

good to hear they tend to advocate lettign things happen, as we actually only ended up seeing a nurse, she was very good and very nice, but we didnt see a dr or a consultant

thankyou bea.
think im going to go for a shower, backs hurting a bit but hopefully it means things are happening.
seems so ironic willing the mc on, but now the baby has died it would be good it get this physical aspect over with

I've passed the baby.
Was getting v strong contraction pains, was thinking not sure how long I can stay at home for in this pain. Then I felt a pop. Then something started gushingwasnt sure if it was waters or blood. But.must have been water. Went to the loo, used a sieve underneath me, I felt something go, and there was baby. The baby is complete with arms legs hands feets eyes ear holes, bless the baby even looks like he or she has a smile on his her face. The baby is about 3cmx 2cm and I think I passed the placenta which was about 2cmx 1cm. And also something that looked a bit.like a tiny cord, but.not sure if it was that.

Bleeding heavily.now.just soaked two.pads in 20 mins. So I'm keeping an eye on that as seems v v heavy

Think we are going to name the baby, need a nice.unisex name, I have a nice cardboard heartshaped trinket box, I will.wrap baby in nice fabric put baby in the trinket box and bury it in a plant pot and plant a nice new plant, maybe. Nice fushia?
Something hardy.
Will also find a poem a.song and a reading to me and dh will bury the baby tomorrow.

Dh doesn't want to.see the baby but I guess its.his choice. I've taken photos anyway so I have something to keep and to show the hospital.staff

Oh orchid, I'm so sorry. I'm totally lost for words. My heart goes out to you.

Hi orchid
I'm sorry for you but pleased its happened quickly, I think your plans sound lovely
Don't worry about the blood loss, I didn't put alot of detail in mine as ofcourse your not sure how much too but I was sat on the toilet with it pouring out and filling a pad every 5 minutes, this only lasted for a few hours then it was like a heavy period, I think that lasted a week after
Rest as much as you can, if it was me I wouldn't go to hospital. They kept me waiting 3 hours and were really unsympathetic / nasty and didn't do anything when I was seen ( the epu staff were lovely just the a &e section) but really apart from a scan to see its cleared that's it, I was told to take a hpt after 2 weeks and aslong as it was beg that was me discharged, they may give you a longer time frame due to the longer time you were pg for, look after yourself abd if your feeling not right/ ill or in alot of pain give them a ring
I'm sorry to here about your little boy too, you have had a very hard time of it havnt you, anytime you need to talk feel free to pm me x