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tedmundo · 13/03/2012 18:04

There are so many of us in that we deserve a thread....

MC and waiting to get the cycle back to normal before TTC....

Come here to share the stories of never ending bleeding, praying for BFN's and the return of the lovely AF in all her glory!

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EthelredOnAGoodDay · 06/04/2012 23:40

Hi all, hope you are all ok. Not caught up on all the new posts yet, but sad to see more new people on here. Will read more and then post, but just in brief, am on the 2ww, but not massively hopeful! Confused

resipsa · 07/04/2012 22:48

Thanks to eveey

resipsa · 07/04/2012 22:58

God, this phone! Anyway, as I started to say, thanks to every

resipsa · 07/04/2012 22:59

I give up for tonight!

Cakeplease · 08/04/2012 21:30

Evening Ladies & Happy Easter! I've been dipping in & out of the thread & need to catch up. It moves quickly here! :)

I have a question for you knowledgable girls; I think I might be ovulating, 13 days after spotting started & 10 days after full on miscarriage. Is this even possible? Is it ok to ttc before Af? Am I at increased risk of another mc? I don't know what to do. I really want to start again but would rather wait for Af if that is safer & will give pg a better shot (I have gotten pg v.quickly both times & have 1dc already so possible it will be a quick conception too unless body & hormones all over place). Miscarriage was natural and relatively quick.

Don't know what to do!! Wnt o be pg again but not if possibility of another mc. Why does dr say wait for first Af, dating only? I think I might be more sane not knowing when Af was & pob test later & therefore hopefully be closer to the dreaded scan and further along.......... Confused!

qazxc · 09/04/2012 15:03

Cake please My doctor also said to wait til i had a period, for dating purposes but i suppose the egg is more likely to stick if the uterus has a decent lining on it too. I don't know how long this is likely to take though ( I guess it might vary from woman to woman).

I'm on day 2 without bleeding, Fingers crossed it's all over.

tedmundo · 10/04/2012 09:02

Morning all. I got af yesterday so I guess that means I am now officially back to normal, whatever that may be. I didn't ovulate between the mc and this af. Hope this is nothing to worry about.

The very kind nurse at the epc when my mc was discovered also said there is no reason to wait to TTc. Her only advice was that early scans would then not be very reassuring as they would not be able to be sure the size of the pregnancy was correct to the dates. And this may lead to anxiety etc. but she def said no medical reason not to.

We were DTD a fair old bit last month but as I was opk testing we knew I had not ovulated so TTc was not going to happen. Now I have af I feel better about going into the next cycle with everything as it should be.

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teaandchocolate · 10/04/2012 09:28

Hi everyone and happy Easter! hope you're all doing ok.

cakeplease I think anything is possible so you might have ovulated although I think it was tedmundo who's said on here before that if you're using the opk sticks then the pregnancy hormone can show up as ovulation hormone?? Have you had a bfn yet? I am the same as you in that got pregnancy very quickly each time (2 mc, 1 DD) and I'm also very nervous about trying again. You don't have to wait for AF as far as I know (from what all the medical professionals say) but it might help for your peace of mind - especially because of what qazxc says about the lining. I also have pcos so want to know that my cycle has returned into some semblance of normality first. But there must be some positive stories of people getting pregnant before a period??!!

qazxc your nappy rash comment made me Smile as I'm the same from bloody pads!! Using DD's sudocrem fgs! Argh! Although fingers crossed bleeding has subsided/finished now....

blackcats that's so interesting about the pill as maybe it has the same effect as progesterone in giving you a 'fake' period and maybe clearing out your system a bit? It was suggested to me last time that it can help kick start things. I just didn't want to take it as wanted to keep ttc. I also wanted to tell you (re my other thread about mc testing) that the consultant I saw privately for my erpc has agreed to do a few 'simple' tests on the nhs for me in a couple of months! feel really pleased like at least I have a focus now and maybe will get some answers or rule things out. Was so excited I wasn't listening and don't even know what tests they are!!!

tedmumdo good news about AF. Must be some sort of relief to be back to normal and know everythings working. Fingers crossed for this month...

Oh and it has happened - a friend of a friend has the same due date as I would have had :( and apparently she 'really wants a boy this time'....grrrrr....

xxx

blackcatsdancing · 10/04/2012 10:02

teaandchocolate , good to hear you're having some tests done. I think its helpful to have things ruled out or your mind goes barmy imagining everything that is wrong with you .Plus if its something easy to sort out then better to know and get it looked at.

resipsa · 10/04/2012 14:55

Hi everyone. Determined stupid phone will not ruin this post before it starts. Firstly, thanks to all who read and/or replied to my moan last week; feeling better (if not more positive) cause now in Phuket on balcony drinking beer with DD sound asleep inside and DH out for dinner with (his) MIL!
Ted - good news indeed re AF. Am jealous as prescribed course of Progesterone appears to have had no effect on my bleeding so no prospect of "normal" anytime soon. Guess you'll soon be off to the TTC thread so good luck!
T&C - glad you're happy that things are underway to help. I remember having standard tests in May 10. I had my blood done and the GP was happy to say all looked OK that month as indeed it was cause by then DD was on her way but no-one knew. It was almost as if the relief of the testing made me relax enough to let nature take its course.

Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend.

resipsa · 10/04/2012 15:01

BTW T&C - loved your post-progesterone-pregnant-two-weeks-later input. Went to bed that night with (inward) smile on my face.

teaandchocolate · 10/04/2012 15:26

resipsa I am so jealous that you're in Thailand - if anything will help you get over a mc that will!!

Let's hope my tests bring about a successful pregnancy and that your progesterone does!! I think you're right that stress can have a big impact. Although I'm not feeling too stressed at the mo as not expecting AF yet really.

tedmundo · 10/04/2012 20:06

Thank you ladies. Yes, it has been a relief to get this af. The bleeding is heavier than I would have experienced before the mc but I think that is expected.

Resipsa .. You lucky thing you. I hope you are having a lovely time. Give those lady boys a wink from me!!

Teaandchoc ... Good luck with those tests. What do they look for exactly?

I feel a bit scared on the TTc threads but I know I do want to try again. Just even talking about it on MN though makes me anxious. That hasn't stopped me working out due dates, possible scan dates and so on. Why do we do this to ourselves?? I try to be all sensible about it all and then go a bit crazzeee!

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teaandchocolate · 11/04/2012 08:01

Hi Ted. I'm the same re ttc, incapable of being laid back about it & even though I try not to think about it I always end up sneakily working out dates. To be honest I don't think it makes it any more or less hard. And anyone who's had a mc knows how important it is to 'be sure about your dates'....(dreaded phrase)

I think the tests he's going to do are hormones (LH, FSH etc) although I don't really see the point as I've had them done before & know I've got pcos. Plus if there's a problem not sure what they can do really? Also clotting issues although I don't know exactly what - I've read Prof Reagans book on mc & it is really overwhelming the amount of issues that can be tested for. I'm sure he said something else too but I can't remember what!! Bit embarassing but thought he'd say no to tests or that they'd cost loads so got a bit over excited I think.... I'm also waiting for chromosomal tests to come back which they carried out on the placenta after the erpc but I don't know if they ever find anything. Writing all this down has made me a bit nervous actually - what if they actually do find something?!?!

blackcatsdancing · 11/04/2012 10:16

teaandchcolate i sort of understand that dilemma. I was tested for clotting problems soon after my MMC ,but only usually standard tests at the GP, anyway all was negative. At first i really wanted them to find something then later i realised that would mean health problems down the line so i'd rather be clear. I do get the impression that with the vast majority of women they find nothing wrong.
I'm not sure myself about getting further tests done. I went for acupuncture and they said i should be tested- this was so they'd know what to treat but not sure i see much point now.

wrigle · 12/04/2012 19:57

Hi everyone, keep meaning to get on here for a proper catch up but have had leaky bathroom / dripping kitchen ceilings to contend with!

I wanted to let you know the outcome of the first 3 days of dual ovulation stick testing. So far, both show the same result, the strips I ordered on line are very plain, tiny little things, so I can imagine there being some issues later on when it shows a feint pink line, but the directions say feint pink is a negative.

How are you all getting on with the Ovulation Watch?

blackcatsdancing · 13/04/2012 09:10

what are dual ovulation sticks?

tedmundo · 13/04/2012 12:40

Stifled very kindly offered to test with billy bargain internet opks and posh ones simultaneously to see of cheap ones just as good.

My ad coming to an end so Will start opks next week.

Resipsa .. did you feel the earth quake. Were you evacuated?

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tedmundo · 13/04/2012 12:41

Rubbish phone ... Af coming to end.

Also have fat fingers no good for smart phones!

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ChocolateAdInfinitum · 13/04/2012 18:46

Anyone got any good ways of stopping self from trying to remember first day of AF/working out dates if get pregnant in this cycle etc?! Am driving myself mad with it all, although my bump envy has massively reduced since getting AF, which is good cos I was beginning to think I am just a miserable/jealous git generally!!

I think getting AF has been really helpful in the 'moving on' process, have others found that too? Or am I back in denial-land? Suppose it is being replaced with stronger desire to be pregnant...

Cakeplease · 13/04/2012 19:32

I've posted this same post on another thread too; sorry if you are reading twice!!!

Hi Girls, sorry I've been out of the looP for a bit. We've been away for a week. Last minute escape to avoid visiting family etc / seeing anyone during the hideousness that is a mc. Best thing we could have done. Had a great time, got away. Lots of wine & shagging (had my mc 2.5 weeks ago and bfn at wknd), have decided to let mother nature take its course & we are not using protection. I have returned feeling refreshed, optimistic & positive.

There is one thing playing on my mind, see what you think: About a week after I found out I was pg an older colleague (66) was telling me how she has vivid dreams that come true (predicted London bombing accurately amongst other things) she asked if we were going to expand the family & then said she'd had a dream about me and another colleague & how we were surrounded by beautiful angel babies (exact words, she has no idea what those words mean, she impled it meant beautiful) at the time I brushed it off & thought she was exaggerating her 'skill' but i started spotting a week or so later. now it's all I can think about, I'm dreading another pg, thinking this is going to happen again & again like her dream.....

Am I being crazy?!?!? I honestly wouldn't believe this under normal circumstances.

I haven't read all the posts I've missed so will pour a glass & catch up but I gather there has been heartbeats and heartbreak

Much love & hugs to you all, these are hard times but you girls are really helping me. Thank you x

wrigle · 14/04/2012 05:59

Sorry for being unclear black! A while back I wrote on here that I'd bought the digital ovulation tests but that they were really expensive, so I also purchased some cheapies on line. They are so cheap that I decided to take both tests together, and if the showed the same response then I would quite buying the expensive ones. Some folks on here said they'd be curious about the results. But on second thought it won't get interesting until one of them starts showing a surge (since the cheapies are supposed to detect it first)!

Meanwhile, today makes it 30 days since I started bleeding. I just want it to stop so I feel ok to ttc again.

resipsa your posts from your phone are a good bit of comedy, glad you kept them on here!

cake, what happened in the end, were you ovulating, did you go for it? And as for your colleague's "gift". I'd tend to come down on the side of science myself, but because of my job I know that things are communicated unconsciously between people and that part doesn't surprise me. But in terms of dreams, there's no standard interpretation, and it could be a worrying route to go down, especially if you are continuining to know each other while you ttc. But we can't control our minds, like you I would also never consider this kind of thing normally, but your post reminded me that a few days before I miscarried a seagull decided to start pecking insistently at my window, this has never happened in the 10+ years I've lived here. It looked like it was begging for food and they can be sinisiter looking up close, I thought "you're here for my baby". I weirded myself out!

Ted congratulations on the AF.

Tea anc choc, hope your wait isn't long for the results of the chromosomal test. That's quite a process.

Right, must get back to bed [yawning/stretching emoticon]! Sorry for anyone I missed out pre page 10!

Cakeplease · 14/04/2012 08:31

Hey wrigle, I will be interested in your results too. Thanks for testing! Hope you stop bleeding soon. It's horrible that it's still continuing for you :(

I don't know if I was ov, not using predictors or anything at the mo. Thought I was but now not so sure...... Went for it anyway! Didn't want to miss an opportunity!
I agree about dream and at time thought nothing of it. Just concentrated on not blushing / giving away I was pg?! I didn't know The term angel babies either!!
Your job sounds interesting! Bit confused about what you mean by this though; "it could be a worrying route to go down, especially if you are continuining to know each other while you ttc."
I am going to put it out of my mind and continue ttc, I don't want to believe it don't won't (also for me a key part was she said me & a friend (who I know is also ttc no.2) and no trouble for her. Maybe that will be telling, fingers crossed colleague is very wrong!)

The seagull story is freaky too! You are right we can't control our minds but maybe you & I are exaggerating innocent situations & just knew the pg wasn't going to develop further. I could tell I was pg last time 3 days after starting ttc, I just knew. Then when symptoms tailed off I kept telling myself they didn't kick in until later with ds, maybe we are just intune with our bodies.... Who knows but am going to try to forget what batty colleague said & crack on!

If at first you don't succeed try & try again!

wrigle · 14/04/2012 14:50

Cake, all I meant was since you'll be ttc'ing, and she'll be around, she might say "knowing" things now and then, and you might be inclined against your normal self to consider what she says more seriously, and that's the worrying route, if you were to get spooked by something she said and became anxious over nothing. We can all be vulnerable to it, I thought a bird took my baby for f*sake! So, so glad to have that time behind me!!! Smile.

Like you I knew immediately that I was pg, my scent changed within 24 hours of conception and as I'd never experienced anything like that before I thought it seemd likely. Then, simiar to you, my symptoms eased and for about a week before I started bleeding with the MC I dreamed of dead fetuses and cuddled one (it wasn't as gross or upsetting a dream as you might think) and it began to feel like I had a rock in my belly. I was so near the 2nd trimest that I had some hope, people say the symptoms ease with a normal healthy pregnancy. Ah well, I hadn't been at all anxious with my first pregnancy, am hoping I can go into the second without becoming an anxious wreck and it sounds like neither of us need to get weirded out by random "knowers"!

tedmundo · 15/04/2012 18:45

wrigle it was my loss of sickness that made me 'know' that I was mc ing too. I even spoke to the gp about my concerns before my midwife booking in Sesh and he did pooh pooh me a bit. Basically said I should be glad the sickness has passed and that it was normal for it to ease. (at 6 weeks..?)

Scan confirmed the baby did not grow after week 7.

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