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Late miscarraige 20ish weeks - need to share my story.

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iloveblue · 23/10/2010 19:20

Hello all

We lost out baby yesterday afternoon.

It was all very quick (thankfully). I had been having period pains for a couple of days and was advised that this was normal and to take some paracetemol. Thursday evening these pains turned into what felt like mini-contractions (my 3rd baby so I recognised the pain) - I was up all night in pain, made two more phonecalls and ended up on labour ward at 9am yesterday morning.
I was scanned and no heartbeat was detected.
I was given the pill to induce labour at about 12 and told to go home as it could take 48 hrs. Went home for an hour to grab some stuff - then straight back into hospital where baby was born an hour or so later. I am 99% convinced I was already in labour as it was so quick.

We decided not to see the baby - and were back home that night. I was 20 weeks.

No idea why this happened - lots of blood tests and swabs taken.

Looking back I was amazingly calm yesterday - it didn't feel real, at times I thought I was about to wake up and it was all a bad dream. Since I got home it has been much harder - have cried so much I can't physically cry anymore at the moment. DH has been amazing - as well as the rest of my family, my 2 boys are staying with my mum for the weekend which has been a huge help.

I keep seeing reminders everywhere - just broke down again earlier after seeing the anomaly scan date filled in on calendar, we never made it that far.

I'm also having tremendous feelings of guilt and disloyalty about the fact that we chose not to see the baby (although I know it was the right decision at the time).

I have had a niggling feeling all the way through this pregnancy that something wasn't right - particularly over the last few weeks as I wasn't feeling much(any?)movement. I was finding it hard to commit to things that involved baby plans - eg booking private gender scan, booking holiday during maternity leave etc and I never felt like that when pregnant with my sons.

So many questions and feelings - I felt it might help to write some of them down here.
I am really keen to chat with others who have gone through this - and I will be doing this in real life too.

Sorry for the long post - thankyou for reading it, if you made it to the end!

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spilttheteaagain · 20/11/2010 20:23

No I don't have a particularly stressful job to be honest (it has it's moments, but don't they all?!) I'm mainly customer facing so it can be manic or awkward/difficult tasks, but equally can be quiet, routine and dull. I'm quite a minion really so I think the nice provision is more for the benefit of those in more demanding/better paid roles! I am happy to make use though Grin

spilttheteaagain · 21/11/2010 14:59

It was 6 weeks yesterday since Bobbie was born. I was thinking about this yesterday and got muddled up and thought it was 6 weeks today. It sounds like a very small mistake but I am so angry with myself for not remembering properly.

We tried going to church today for the first time in a while and I was in tears in minutes. I couldn't sing anything, just stood there with a wet face, and then had to leave half way through. We went up to the cemetery instead to spend some time with Bobbie. It's just all such a fucking MESS and I hurt so much.

One of my friends at church is about 38 weeks and her bump set me right off Sad.

I should be 26+2 today, not sobbing at the sight of pregnant women.

A Bad Day.

I hope you're all muddling through a bit better and having some time with your families this weekend.

iloveblue · 21/11/2010 20:46

Sorry you're feeling down again spilt.
6 weeks is not a long time and even though it is getting easier it is understandable that you still have bad days. How are you feeling about your appointment on Thursday?

I had a dream last night about our baby (that it was a girl and she was born alive) and that has made me feel very sad and tearful today. Sad

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littlewish · 22/11/2010 09:31

Sorry you've had a bad few days spilt and you too iloveblue a dream like that is awful. Sad

I read an article in yesterdays Mail on Sunday 'You' magazine and it set me off again. It was about a lady who had a little stillborn daughter and she was talking of how she wasn't expected to grieve for her and how society treats those who suffer the unspoken heartache of losing a baby. She talks about the only place she found comfort was on the internet in cyberspace on forums like this, she is so right when she says our grief won't be denied on here and why can't there be more kindness in RL. She also says unexpressed grief is toxic beyond measure and I agree with that.

If you can find a copy of yesterdays MoS magazine have a proper read of the article cos I thought it was very good and is exactly how we all feel.

Hope you all have a better day today. x

spilttheteaagain · 22/11/2010 12:14

Thanks guys, and ilove so sorry you had such an upsetting dream. That must have been horrible Sad

littlewish I might have a google for that. It's very timely given what happened this morning:

I got into work today for my 2nd day back after crying all the way there (not advised when driving...) and the first person I saw swanned into my office and said:
"Nice to see you back, how are you? (barely pauses for breath) Oh well these things happen. Now, I'm looking for a parcel..."

I could barely speak and just sobbed as soon as she walked out. How dare anyone dismiss my baby like that???!

littlewish · 23/11/2010 09:41

She hasn't got a clue of the pain you are suffering does she. Does she have children? If only she could walk in your shoes for 1 day, or even just stop and think about what exactly what you have experienced before opening her mouth.

I don't know what is worse, people like her or those who say nothing.

Hope today is a better day.

leosmummy19 · 23/11/2010 11:32

Hi everyone. I hope you are all okay? I'm so sorry not to have been here for a while and have been thinking of you all. Life has been hectic but I have also been worrying about our appointment with the obstetrician yesterday.

I hope you don't mind but I've posted this here as well as on the main message board and I wanted to try and reach knackeredlou to give her these contact details. I'm so sorry it has taken so long to sort out.

"I lost our dear daughter Grace at 14 weeks and was ambulanced to Mayday in Croydon weher we had the most appalling experience in A and E. We received virtually no care, were left on our own for hours, had no counselling and were discharged without so much as a leaflet on how to deal with miscarriage.

After 7 weeks and a lot of fighting, I was finally put in touch with two wonderful women, who are the pregnancy loss and beravement counsellors. Because of the appalling treatment in A and E, they were unaware of our existence. Communication in this hospital is diabolical.

We had a meeting yesterday with Miss Hamid (obstetrician) and Julie Tucker (counsellor)and presented them with the details of what happenend to us at the hands of the A and E department. They were absolutely horrified and could only clarify one point of the 10 + that we raised. They believe that there is an urgent need for staff trainig and policy review and when I told them about MumsNet, they asked me to post their contact details for any ladies who have been through the awful ordeal of losing their little babies
in Mayday, especially the A and E department, and have received no support.

The help is there but the relevamt staff need to be informed and this is NOT happening, leaving us grieving parents in a terrible state.

Please call or e-mail Julie Tucker or Helen Wilson.

Julie Tucker Specialist Midwife Counsellor
0208 401 300 ask for bleep 133. Or mobile 07920 751 863 [email protected]

Helen Wilson Pegnancy loss Midwife
[email protected]
"

I hope you are all ok and having more good days that bad. If you have had an horrendous experience at the hands of Mayday, please get in touch with Julie or Helen. They have been a huge support and comfort to me and my dh and genuinely are horrified at our experience. We can change things if we talk to them.

Sorry for the long post and if I am repeating myself. I hope that by saying this, the same appalling treatment can be stopped so no-one has to suffer any more at the hands of this hospital.

My obstetrician did say that because they couldn't find anything wrong with GRace or the placenta, and also I have had a healthy baby, that my risk of this happening again is low but not gone. She has given me a prescription for low dose aspirin to take as soon as I find out I am pregnant, and they will then see me every week at the hospital for scans and blood tests, and check my cervix at 12 weeks. I am happy to proceed with Miss Hamid at Mayday but no-one else. I think they have heard me loud and clear! Have any of you decided to try again? I am ready to "go for it" now, which I never thought I would be, but my husband is more cautious. Whenever we decide to try I feel I now have support and I hope you all do too, as it is a worrying time.

Sorry again for the long post. I hope this finds you, lou and I'm sending big hugs to you all. Have a good day. xxxxxxxxx

iloveblue · 23/11/2010 11:48

What an insensitive cow spilt! Is she generally like that?

Hi leosmummy - I'm glad you have had the go ahead to TTC again. We will be too - just waiting for AF to arrive. Its just over 4 weeks now (32 days). How long did it take for yours to return?

I'm so glad you are finally getting some support from that hospital - sounds like they are going to monitor you carefully when you become pregnant again which is great.
Good luck with TTC - keep us posted x

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leosmummy19 · 23/11/2010 13:08

Hi ilove. How are you feeling? Are you feeling ready for work on 30th or do you need more time? Be kind to yourself if you're not ready? My periods came back 33 days after ERPC to remove the placenta so 34 days after losing GRace, and my second one was 26 days after that. I can't believe it as my cycles were getting ridiculous before I fell pregnant for the second time...sometimes 42,49,50, 33, 35, 36 days apart, and I felt like a huge bloated blob most of the time! These two have been shorter and a bit heavier but basically like they were when I was 16. Maybe I needed a good clean out? I know that sounds awful but the obstetrician said that my endometrium could have just been getting thicker and thicker, making it more difficult for the baby to implant properly. I don't know.

I feel better knowing that Grace was fine, but sadder in a way as there is no explanation. They have put it down to an unexplained death. Have you heard anything about your baby yet?

I will keep you posted about TTC. They told me yesterday that it may take a while this time. Each time we tried to get pregnant with Leo and Grace it worked first time, amazingly, so we'll have to see. My husband seems to want to wait until the new year but I want to try now. We'll just have to see how that one goes......we haven't had any sex yet (sorry if that's tmi!) so I'm getting desperate. John didn't want to touch me until we'd seen the obstetrician and we both keep falling asleep! Oh dear!! It doesn't bode well...!!!

Have a good day and keep smiling xxxxxx

iloveblue · 23/11/2010 16:00

I'm okay thanks - I'm not sure how I feel about going back to work next week tbh. I just feel that if I don't do it soon its just going to get harder and harder, and I am quite keen to get back to normality.
I've only got 3 weeks back and then its school holidays (i'm a secondary school teacher) so 2 weeks off, and I do 3 days a week - so I just keep telling myself its only 9 days.
I got a card from my work colleagues last week which was lovely - and I'm sure they will be gentle with me. Its the kids I'm more worried about really - quite a lot of them had twigged that I was pregnant as I had a large bump, and I'm expecting some awkward questions from them. I do have lovely classes this year though so I'm sure it will be fine - and I am looking forward to seeing them all again.

I didn't have an ERPC for some reason - I remember the midwife saying something along the lines of 'it looks like its all come out' when I delivered the placenta so thats probably why.

I have to admit I took a pregnancy test this morning - it was negative, which I was expecting tbh but just trying to work out what's going on in there! We've only done the deed once so I would have been very suprised if it was positive. Just really want AF to come - been feeling very crampy, sore boobs for a few days (hence the pregnancy query) so its probably on its way.

We havn't heard anything from the hospital yet regarding results - they said it would be 8 weeks and almost 5 now so still a while to wait. We did get a letter about the memorial service on the 1st December - which we are going to. Just hearing from the hospital made me feel sad.

Its interesting the fact that they have given you aspirin - I've read a bit about it. Is it to prevent clotting?

Regarding the TTC - I think you need to start a major seduction campaign!Wink.

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leosmummy19 · 23/11/2010 16:22

Hi ilove

I think you're right about the seduction campaign! I'll try my best!

Re going back to work and telling the kids....could one of your colleagues discreetly let them know before you come back? I don't know whether you would like this, but I know that I felt better knowing that people knew before I went back. It saved the explanation from me which was just too hard. I was ok when they asked if I was ok, and can talk more now as they all still ask, bless 'em. It is different for me though, as I only teach one at a time and am at private schools so the "rules" are a little different. I have pupils mobile numbers for example as one school is a boarding school and it helps to remind them about lessons etc. I know this is definately not the case for my best friend who is a Head of Science in a secondary school. I don't know how it works for you. I felt it was easier for me colleagues and the kids knowing, but it may not be the same for you.

I had an ERPC because I didn't deliver the placenta. I should have been given a drug to bring it but they were so rubbish it wasn't administered. I was then told I would have an emergency ERPC, which took them 19 hours before they did it. The pain was horrible!

They have prescribed aspirin because I had pre-eclampsia with Leo, with high blood pressure and high resistance in the uterine artery. I also had high resistance in the uterine artery with Grace which could mean that my blood was too thick and couldn't pass through the placeta properly which may have caused us to lose her. Aspirin is very safe, even though it does cross the placenta, but studies have shown that there are no adverse affects on the baby. So yes, I guess to thin the blood and prevent clotting. They have told me to take it the minute I get pregnant (it's a low dose of 75 mg) until 36 weeks, so that your blood isn't too thin at delivery. It may be worth mentioning this to your consultant when you see him/her depending on what your results are? It definantely lessens the effects of pre-eclampsia apparently.

It does sound like your period is on it's way. I hope it comes soon then you can TTC as soon as you can? I hope the memorial service brings you some comfort, even though it will be difficult for you. I wish we could have attended ours....we weren't allowed to go.

Keep us posted!!!! Big big hugs xxxxxx

spilttheteaagain · 24/11/2010 10:25

leosmummy well done for getting through your obs appointment, I can imagine how nerve wracking that was and how much courage it would have taken - I have mine tomorrow and the build up is incredibly stressful. I'm so glad you've found such a good consultant who is taking you seriously and offering so much support to you for the next pregnancy. The next one is going to be so so hard on all of us - I wish I could be put in the freezer for the full 9 months and woken up when it's all definitely ok!

ilove my AF arrived 39 days after the birth. I had been temperature charting so think I ovulated on CD30, giving a useless luteal phase of only 8 days (which makes me glad we hadn't bothered to ttc then as evidently the hormones were still a bit confused). AF only lasted 3 days and has then been followed by a few random spotting patches so I don't think things are quite right yet but we are now SWI just in case. Hope that helps.

I also took a preg test the day before AF arrived, not sure why but I had a strange compulsion and had to do it. Of course a negative and then I got upset Hmm

See how you feel about work but don't push yourself. Could you just do 1 day/half day the first week to see how it goes and just show your face really? I found the half day last week was as much as I could take, it was exhausting and draining.

Re the insensitive cow lady at work - yes that is fairly true to form I suppose but I was still so shocked. She has grown up children and I can only think she has either never lost a baby or forgotten what pregnancy/birth is like or had the sensitivity gene removed at birth.

I worked full days on Mon and Tues this week and it has been too much too soon. I was due to work today but I just can't and DH refused to let me go in and contacted my boss for me.
Here's a run down of yesterday: I drove to work (40min drive) and cried all the way there. Muddled through the day struggling to concentrate/do anything. It all took 4 times longer than it should have done. A couple of people asked how I was and I said "ok" or "variable" depending on the moment. One chap came in very jovially (I work in a shared office) and cheerfully welcomed me back and then told us all about his wife being frustrated last night because her baby (30 weeks pg) was sitting awkwardly and she was uncomfortable and feeling "big". I stared fixedly at my computer whilst my palms sweated and then scurried off to the loo to cry and howl noisily. Cried at my desk on about another 4 occasions. Slunk off at the end of the day without saying goodbye to anyone. Sobbed the entire way home, so much that I couldn't see properly and was speeding and frightening myself. I nearly turned onto the motorway and had to stop myself (I always go the non-motorway route) because a) I don't know the way via the motorway and b) I only nearly picked it because I wanted to crash.
I got home and sat down and cried. DH came in and spent about 40 mins holding me and trying to calm me. I was crying so hard I was nearly sick on him, my throat felt like I was choking and I was hyper ventilating again. Sometimes the crying was loud wailing, othertimes it was almost internal and I was completely tensed and quivering and hunched up as if I had a chest wound if that makes sense.

I was in pain all evening on Monday and Tuesday because I had been so physically tense all day at work I had given myself a stomach ache and hurt the muscles in my back. The effort of gritting my teeth and holding back tears all day had left me with an aching neck and jaw and puffy stinging eyes.

When I was at work I could only rarely manage to meet anyone's eyes. I didn't dare have a cup of tea because I was too scared to go to the kitchen in case I had to encounter someone. I had to take something to the post room and was waiting until the corridors were clear and picking odd routes to avoid passing certain peopled areas. My hands trembled and I kept dropping things. My phone was unplugged while I was away and I haven't replugged it because I just can't take the calls.

Mostly it is torture because everyone thinks I am ok and only ask once and then their lives are all continuing and mine is broken and stuck. I have been horrified by my rage and HATRED for their normal existences.

I feel so GUILTY for not working and getting paid. I have been such a drain on them for months. I had a terrible pregnancy and had some sick days, lots of holiday days, antenatal appointments, adjusted workload, ill all the time I was there, then these 6 weeks off, then this phased return. Soon I hope to be pregnant again so will be probably ill again with that and then maternity leave.... I feel terrible about this too.

I don't know what to do. I feel so vulnerable and just engulfed in such a terrible blackness and have no idea how to get out, or even if I want to. DH phoned the bereavement MW last night and left a message asking her to get in touch. I badly need some counselling or something and the promised details from the GP never materialised.

I haven't checked but I'm sure this is far too long now, I just need a place to let it all out. ilove I've just realised how soon you are planning to go back to work and I hope this hasn't distressed you. If you find it just as bad you aren't alone and please please please don't feel bad if you can't manage it/can't manage all your hours yet. I really hope you do better than me, will be thinking of you xx

iloveblue · 24/11/2010 11:43

Oh split - I wish I could give you a big hug.

You should definitely not feel guilty about letting your workplace down - they have systems in pace to deal with this, and you have had a genuine reason for having time off.

It does sound like you need to speak to someone about how you are feeling. Can you phone your GP again?
My DH has an anxiety disorder that surfaces every year or so and at one point he was extremenly bad (thoughts of suicide, wanted to be sectioned etc) - he got an emergency appointment with his GP one day and begged for some help, and they booked him to see a counsellor that same morning at a kind of crisis centre. It really helped him when he was on the edge (of what we will never know, thankfully). He was also put on anti-depressants (and is still on them). Its a very different situation I know but there should be some kind of facility for emergency counselling in your area. It just seems silly when they put you on a waiting list for weeks - when you need the help now.

Have you tried the SANDS helpline
020 7436 5881

It might be worth a try just to speak to someone who knows what you are going through.

Also remember it's only 6 weeks since you lost Bobbie - you are still grieving, and feeling nervous about your appointment tomorrow is probably not helping.

PM me if it would help - but please don't suffer in silence xxx

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littlewish · 24/11/2010 15:12

Oh heck spilt I'm sending you a massive cuddle too.

Don't feel guilty about work, this is a very very difficult time in your life. 6 weeks since losing Bobbie is a very short time indeed. Pop back to your GP soon. Grief and disbelief of it all is so overwhelming at times.

Hopefully after your appointment tomorrow you will feel more positive about the future.

Take care of yourself today x

iloveblue - Will think of you on 1st Dec

spilttheteaagain · 24/11/2010 19:28

Thank you both so much Smile

My sister came over and baby sat me today whilst DH was at work and that was good. I told her all about what had happened and had a good cry and then we went over to the cemetery to see Bobbie.

The bereavement MW has phoned back and she is coming to visit next week so I can talk everything through, so I'm feeling a bit less fretful and alone now.

ilove so sorry your DH struggles with the anxiety, that must be so tough for both of you. I know exactly what you mean about the stupidity of counselling waiting lists. After my gran died my dad asked for bereavement counselling. They put him on the waiting list and ONE YEAR later offered him an appointment. He was Hmm as for him the need for it had pretty much passed by then, he'd got through using friends and family.

I'll let you know how we get on with the consultant tomorrow and see what to do after that about work next week/GPs and all.

How are you both? Take care of yourselves xx

leosmummy19 · 24/11/2010 19:39

Oh spilt I am so aorry you are feeling this way and am sending you a huge hug. Please do not feel bad about work. Like the others said, they have procedures in place to make sure you are paid when you are off. It is work at the end of the day, and this is your life. You need time out to look after yourself and the insensitive bs can go take a run and jump.

Is there any way the bereavement midwife would be available to talk on the phone before you see her? I know when I eventually was given counselling I talked for hours on the phone to Julie and she was wonderful. There is also the Miscarriage Association (I know those words do not cover how we're all feeling) but they are there to talk to and can put you in touch with women who have been through similar experiences.

I'll be thinking of you tomorrow, and ilove on Dec 1st. I hope you are feeling calmer now, but please please don't be hard on yourself for feeling this way. Lots of love and hugs to you all xxxxx

iloveblue · 25/11/2010 09:32

Good luck for today spilt - thinking of you x

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spilttheteaagain · 25/11/2010 14:12

Well we've seen the consultant now, he was really nice.

The news is that Bobbie was a little girl.

There was nothing wrong with her, chromosones all normal and fine, no genetic issues. The placenta was normal and consistent with 19-20 weeks, no clots or weird structure or anything. I have no blood clotting issues either.

My thyroid is slightly underactive, still waiting for results on the anti-thyroid antibody test tomorrow.

The bad news is they detected a strong toxoplasma infection and in the absence of any other detected problems, they think that was probably the cause of the loss.

The consultant is phoning the UK toxoplasma specialist to get advice for us on what to do the next time to avoid repeat infection, and to whether I should have repeat blood tests for this before ttc.

We now have to do a load of research really to decide what we do with our 2 cats Sad

And we have been strongly recommended to wait 6 months from the birth before ttc, so 4 months from now. This is to let the infection go away and let me develop the antibodies that will hopefully protect our next baby.

littlewish · 25/11/2010 20:13

Hi spilt are you and DH o.k after todays news?

There is a lot to take in again by the sound of things.

Toxoplasma infection was the last thing on my mind, I hadn't even thought that could be a cause of our baby loss. I was really shocked when I read your post, I'm sure it's quite rare and symptom less, but there again I haven't read up about it,(googled most other things though). Im sure the expert in this infection will help with good advice.

It is all so unfair knowing that your little girl was normal. Does it help a little to know that she was a girl? Do you feel you know her a little more?

You must be feeling a bit fragile tonight, so much to think about again, so sending a big hug.

I won't say anymore I'm not as good with words as you spilt I'm always afraid of saying the wrong things, would hate to upset you anymore than you are.

Look after yourself x
You will have good baby news one day x

iloveblue · 25/11/2010 21:16

Hi spilt - thanks for letting us know the outcome.
How are you feeling about it?
I'm also sending you hugs - I feel quite shocked by your news (I don't know why - maybe its just having some answers after a long time not knowing) so I expect you and DH must be too.

xxx

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MrsB33 · 25/11/2010 22:43

Hi spit, im not sure weve had the opportunity to speak on MN but ive been lurking on a few threads after my mmc in sept.
Your story has kind of put lots of things for me in perspective, and tonight reading your wednesday post really upset me, i cant imagine what your going through, i found out id lost my baby at 13 weeks but actually the baby was only 8 weeks, i take full comfort in the fact that the baby died at the stage where it would start to develop so there must of been something majorly wrong for this to happen.
I think what your still going through is terrible and i hope you get all the support you require.

My mom had a still birth b4 i was born, 34 years ago, her name was Rebecca, my mom will never forget Rebecca, and nor will we (there are 3 kids) ever forget as we were all told of our sister many years ago, and she holds a special place in all our hearts, as will bobbie in many years when you go on to have her brothers, sisters.

Take care of yourself and keep us updated on your progress, i take great strengh from your posts, and your ability to give advice and kind words at this terrible time in your life.x

spilttheteaagain · 25/11/2010 23:14

Thanks girls. We are ok I think, a bit shocked. I always seem to have delayed reactions so it's only this evening that I've started to feel odd and upset about it. Just waiting for it to properly hit now...

I have a daughter.

It's weird to even say that. I'm so glad we know and she will never be an "it" again.

Lazily cut and pasting what I wrote on another thread:
I just cannot believe how astoundingly unlucky we have been. I have lived with cats for 17 years. To catch toxoplasmosis THIS SUMMER for the first time FFS!

It's possible that I had the toxoplasmosis before and have lost my immunity, some people are like that. But if that's the case then having had it this time is no guarantee of safety next time. I'm scared to touch anything in the house and feel very slovenly.

We're buying a dishwasher anyway. It might sound slightly daft but we figured we could hot wash everything all through pregnancy just incase the little felines had been sneakily licking stuff etc. At least it makes us feel we are doing something which is the main thing. They are also now banned from the bedroom so no more waking up to find them sat on your face Grin

Faint line on OPK today and SWI last night so oh God it would be so bloody typical to get pregnant now Sad. I did ask the consultant what we should do if I am pg and he said "PHONE ME!" so we shall wait and see.

Actually littlewish toxoplasma is the most common parasite that affects humanity, 30% of the world carry it. However, most people are exposed to it, get toxoplasmosis (which in healthy adults is often symptomless or just a little cold). Then in theory you are immune after having it. However getting it in pg is disasterous - fetal loss, fetal abnormalities/deformities all v.likely. Because it's so easy to catch, it's uncommon to catch for the first time when pregnant so not a common cause of baby loss.

So sick at the thought it could be my cats. Of course it could equally be neighbours cats. It could be rare meat. Could be the garden fruit & veg (cat poo/soil contamination). Could be so many things.

spilttheteaagain · 25/11/2010 23:18

MrsB so sorry for your loss too, the pain is just awful. It's so lovely that you all remember your missing sister. I have every intention of telling my future children about their much loved and missed big sister. How are you finding everything now?

leosmummy19 · 26/11/2010 07:08

How are you split after hearing the news of your dear Bobbie. Does it help now knowing you have a daughter? We were very upset when we heard we had a daughter as we so wanted a girl, but as time has gone on, I feel much more at peace and can talk to her as a "she" rather than an "it". Has the consultant given you any advice of what to do to avoid toxoplasmosis next time? We also have 3 cats, and I was worrying about the poo in the veggie patch and touched some accidentally without gloves when I was pregnant and panicked a bit. From what you have said there are many more causes than cat faeces? I'm so sorry as it is a lot for you to take in and a huge shock. I'm sending you a big hug and hope you find some comfort and peace with your little girl.Thinking of you.

MrsB I am so very sorry for your loss. The mumsnetters are such a huge source of strength and inspiration and thank you for sharing your story. How are you feeling today?

I hope today is a good day for everyone. I'm sorry if I've said the wrong things this morning...I wanted to support everyone but I didn't get any sleep last night....was so tired after work I couldn't sleep and then Leo was up and down most of the night so I gave up trying at 4 am and got up. I hope you all have a lovely weekend. Big hugs to you all xxxxxxx

MrsB33 · 26/11/2010 07:18

hi all, im good thanks, its been 9 weeks for me so i feel im slowly coming out the fog of grief.yesterday wasnt a great day 4 me, i travel around in my job so sometimes dont see people from one month to the next and yesterday i saw a girl that was amonth in front of me, shes due to finish work in a month and looked great, made me very sad on my three hour journey home, then got home to an empty house with my DH working away....
I still have a bad days, but the good outway the bad ag the moment and things are getting easier.
Im on my second cycle now and all seems to back to normal, not sure if ive ovualted as didnt test but think i did??
Planning to ttc from next week onwards so fingers crossed ladies.

Thanks for the updates, really helps having somewhere to go after a bad day, not sure anyone quite gets the pain of a mc unless theyve been through it themselves. X