Modibodi and gender

[Emilypank]

I was reading another thread with regard to Modibodi and period pants. I am going through the menopause and my periods have become erratic and very heavy. I thought I’d have a look on this website and unfortunately the first thing I am greeted with is a headline. Period wear for all genders and a picture of a girl with a moustache, and a bulge in her period pants. Anyone else just fed up with this insidious movement even when having to find pants which will stop me leaking blood through my trousers or on my bed. I am a menopausal woman with heavy periods and my menopausal anger is increasing daily. Any thoughts.

Oh FGS. I need to buy new period pants for DD. Yet another company off the list.

No. I don't think normalising a female "enhancing" their period pants with a silicon fake penis is in any way desirable. Jesus wept.

I don't say trans men are women

Well you should, because they are, as they require sanitary protection, because they menstruate, which is because they are women.

However, men do not need period pants because they are not women. The. End.

Why do we need any representation of minority groups in adverts, or anywhere else, in that case?

I'm not white, should it not bother me when I see only white families in advertising?

It does, and, again, I choose to buy from places who are more inclusive.

I've seen multiple threads on here about the lack of lesbian role models, especially after Elliot Page came out as trans. Why does anyone care, you don't need to see yourself represented apparently.

Well I don't, despite you touting your opinion as the be all and end all.

Trans men need period products, it's good for them to see themselves represented in advertising too.

Even if you write 'The. End.' As though others aren't allowed a different viewpoint.

@FourAndTwentyBlackbirdsBakedInAPie you think it's normal and desirable to see a grown adult female with a silicon pretend you penis shoved down their pants. Really?

*pretendy

Well I don't, despite you touting your opinion as the be all and end all

<<<speechless at the irony>>>

'I'm not white, should it not bother me when I see only white families in advertising?'

Please don't mix up ethnicity with how people dress. One is a choice the other isn't.

There are so many ways for people to identify and dress. No, we don't need to have them all represented on women's products.

Irony would mean that I have said that trans men are men and that is that End. Of.

I haven't said that.

I don't find it particularly desirable to see anyone in their pants tbh.

If I were a trans man I would like seeing myself represented when I was looking to buy products though.

I'm not mixing anything up.

It's being suggested that representation doesn't matter in advertising.

Either it does, or it doesn't.

I believe it does.

There surely isn't enough space or need to represent how everyone identifies and dresses.

Ethnicity is completely different as you well know. It really does a disservice to those who have fought for inclusion that you are trying to equate the 2.

To be fair, having seen the picture, it does seem to be for FtM transitions as it shows someone who appears to have had breasts removed and is wearing a packer so I suppose they could still be menstruating.

You have mixed up a LOT of things @FourAndTwentyBlackbirdsBakedInAPie

And, as you work on a helpline for trans people, (and know 3 in real life which is disproportionate, unless through a specialist group) your opinions are bound to differ from 99% of the posters here.

One thing I'd say is that if you talk to trans people on a helpline, you may get a false impression sometimes. Not all calls to helplines are genuine. I have friends who work on helplines and a lot of the calls are (sadly) fake and from people getting a thrill.

It's being suggested that representation doesn't matter in advertising.

The ASA is there for a reason.

Representation of people who may take hormone blockers and undergo surgery to change their appearance to become another gender is questionable when it's aimed at young people.

When they are portrayed as role models for young people to copy? To undergo a process that they might want to reverse, as it was a mistake?

I think you ought to listen to many parents who are terrified that this 'lifestyle choice' (because it's being minimised as that in some cases) is being promoted to their children by the media, in schools, and through a very vocal and powerful minority (who represent a tiny percentage of society) with terrible consequences for many young people.

I was talking about you touting your opinions as the be-all-and-end-all.
But you knew that. You were being disingenuous, to score a point.

Totally this.
*When they are portrayed as role models for young people to copy? To undergo a process that they might want to reverse, as it was a mistake?

I think you ought to listen to many parents who are terrified that this 'lifestyle choice' (because it's being minimised as that in some cases) is being promoted to their children by the media, in schools, and through a very vocal and powerful minority (who represent a tiny percentage of society) with terrible consequences for many young people.*

completely irresponsible. Even if the young people don’t go as far as medical intervention, the psychological confusion and damage is IMMENSE.

And this.

please complain to the advertising standards authority here..

www.asa.org.uk/make-a-complaint.html

This is in the press today, about the closure of the Tavistock.

Terf — or trans-exclusionary radical feminist — is the trans fanatic’s (misogynistic) preferred acronym for anyone, be they concerned parent or cautious professional, who dares question the wisdom of not merely allowing but, like the Tavistock, actively assisting young and vulnerable children to start altering their gender.

By demonising all opposition, trans ideologues have, over the years, skilfully and successfully shut down almost any debate on the issue
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Finally, however, the tide is turning. As a result of Bell’s bravery, and of a damning interim report by Dr Hilary Cass, a former president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health — who was commissioned by NHS England to independently review gender identity services for young people — the Tavistock will close this spring.

Dr Cass’s full report will be published later this year; but next week an equally damning assessment of what went on comes out in the form of a book by the Newsnight journalist Hannah Barnes.

Based on years of meticulous research as well as hours of interviews with clinicians and patients, Time To Think really gets into the guts of what went on at the Tavistock, charting how well over 1,000 children, some as young as ten, were prescribed puberty blockers, opening a pathway to medical transition, often without follow-up or supervision

Utterly grim. I am sick to my back teeth of this movement.

@JinglingSpringbells How anyone can read this and still think that what happened/is still happening to children who claim a trans identity is in their best interests just shows you how absolutely rotten to the core the cult of gender identity ideology and its followers are.

Also, read a piece in an Irish newspaper today about a politician who was so proud of her son (daughter?) who had ‘transitioned’ recently. When and how did this language become so quickly assimilated into daily life? It makes it sound so normal, almost a rite of passage. It’s disturbing.

It’s very very disturbing. Why “proud”? Do they have to double, treble, quadruple down in support of this ideology in order to drown out their fears?

The damage being done to young men and women's urogenital systems due to "gender affirming surgery" (which so completely driven by aesthetics and consumerism and worth a fortune) is resulting in a high rate of incontinence.

The sad fact is that it's highly likely there will be more trans identified individuals buying these items in order to deal with leaks.

Girls wearing rainbow covered boy shorts with room for a "packer" is the absolute height of the pink tax imo.