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Modibodi and gender

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Emilypank · 13/02/2023 20:45

I was reading another thread with regard to Modibodi and period pants. I am going through the menopause and my periods have become erratic and very heavy. I thought I’d have a look on this website and unfortunately the first thing I am greeted with is a headline. Period wear for all genders and a picture of a girl with a moustache, and a bulge in her period pants. Anyone else just fed up with this insidious movement even when having to find pants which will stop me leaking blood through my trousers or on my bed. I am a menopausal woman with heavy periods and my menopausal anger is increasing daily. Any thoughts.

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 13/02/2023 22:01

Out of interest, would a trans man taking enough cross sex hormones to grow a full mustache even have periods?

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 13/02/2023 22:01

WarningToTheCurious · 13/02/2023 21:59

There's no flaw in my argument, the number of trans men isn't exactly insignificant.

In England and Wales, the 2021 census showed 0.5% of the population (252,000) as identifying as a different gender to their birth sex. If you take half of that figure as being female then that’s 126,000 compared to over 30,400,000 women.

And at least half the transmen I know had hysterectomies years ago.

SirChenjins · 13/02/2023 22:04

WarningToTheCurious · 13/02/2023 21:59

There's no flaw in my argument, the number of trans men isn't exactly insignificant.

In England and Wales, the 2021 census showed 0.5% of the population (252,000) as identifying as a different gender to their birth sex. If you take half of that figure as being female then that’s 126,000 compared to over 30,400,000 women.

It wasn’t as high as that -

A total of 262,000 people (0.5%) answered “No”, indicating that their gender identity was different from their sex registered at birth. Within this group:
48,000 (0.10%) identified as a trans man

FourAndTwentyBlackbirdsBakedInAPie · 13/02/2023 22:06

WarningToTheCurious · 13/02/2023 21:59

There's no flaw in my argument, the number of trans men isn't exactly insignificant.

In England and Wales, the 2021 census showed 0.5% of the population (252,000) as identifying as a different gender to their birth sex. If you take half of that figure as being female then that’s 126,000 compared to over 30,400,000 women.

Yes, exactly what I said, it's not an insignificant number.

They aren't only catering to trans men either so they aren't limiting themselves.

Lots of people wouldn't use their products because the company is trans inclusive, however lots of people would use their products simply because they are inclusive. The majority of people probably wouldn't care either way.

IWineAndDontDine · 13/02/2023 22:07

Not really, classic MN

StrawHatOnTheParcelShelf · 13/02/2023 22:07

It's obviously a uniquely UK thing.

I buy from Australia which is where Modibody started.

When I google Modibody the caption is 'Womens Period and Leak Proof Underpants' and that term is used throughout the website.

WarningToTheCurious · 13/02/2023 22:08

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 13/02/2023 22:01

And at least half the transmen I know had hysterectomies years ago.

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Even on my basic figures, it’s going to be around 0.4% of the female population, so 4 in 1,000. That’s not very significant at all.

ClaphamSouth · 13/02/2023 22:12

According to the ONS 48000 people identified as trans men in the 2021 census.

twitter.com/ONS/status/1611295339746660352?s=20&t=NmhcyYdDA_Wqq04XHkNooA

I thought it notable that exactly the same number of people identified themselves to be trans women.

Modibodi and gender
iCouldSleepForAYear · 13/02/2023 22:13

"Space for a packer" sounds like a design flaw for period pants. I've always thought they needed to fit fairly snug in order to do the job.

Modibodi were always too expensive for me anyway.

2023gulp · 13/02/2023 22:14

I can’t get upset at this like one might do a bad changing room situation, BUT … it would be nice to look at period pants without seeing a penis on the page … !

Having said that i probably won’t be buying anymore modibodi though.

WarningToTheCurious · 13/02/2023 22:14

@SirChenjins I was being conservative by including all the ones that answered no but didn’t write in a response / NB / others.

If you just went for the ones that answered TM (48,000) then that’s 0.16% of the female population.

FuckNuggets · 13/02/2023 22:17

discobrain · 13/02/2023 20:48

Oh get over it.

I'm a non binary perimenopausal person on HRT, and I for one am incredibly grateful that some brands are doing this.

What makes you non-binary?

Askingforafriendly · 13/02/2023 22:18

I saw this, unsubscribed and blocked and have since purchased period pants from elsewhere

The use of a ‘packet’ in the photos is just screaming what a crock of self absorbed fantasy shit.

I refuse to just let this ridiculous ideology get sucked into every single area of life. It needs to stop.

Itisbetter · 13/02/2023 22:21

iCouldSleepForAYear · 13/02/2023 22:13

"Space for a packer" sounds like a design flaw for period pants. I've always thought they needed to fit fairly snug in order to do the job.

Modibodi were always too expensive for me anyway.

Yes, how does that even work with a heavy period? Sounds utterly revolting.

wetwiped · 13/02/2023 22:21

This is really disappointing. I really liked modibodi. I shall have to find a new period pants brand now.

Agree. I've tried Matalans range recently and was happy, not quite Modibod sensual which are my favourite, but close.

Cocobutt · 13/02/2023 22:22

I’ve just had a look on the website as this really annoyed me.

But they do make underwear for men and women for incontinence, not just period pants, so there are male models on their website.

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Emilypank · 13/02/2023 22:24

All you kind”let them live their lives it’s not harming anyone”. Shame on you. I can’t believe so many women go along with this civil rights movement for men!! They don’t want separate toilets and changing rooms. They want ours. Why? And “not harming anyone” statements make me so angry. This has now filtered down to our kids and that is unforgivable. It’s abuse and anyone involved in this (teachers, parents, therapists,surgeons, doctors) will have to live with themselves!!

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Maybe Transmen who ''Pack'' and still get periods?
Just guessing here.

Veryverycalmnow · 13/02/2023 22:24

I think including 'all genders' is a bit of a lazy way of making sure they're on the pc side of things, on trend etc. However, I don't believe they are saying men can have periods. The trans man pictured could well have periods for all we know, so I don't mind that particular model being used. The slogan is a bit much. It seems like a token gesture of, 'we're ok with every kind of person!' Im not offended by this particular example, but I do believe that when it comes to period products, women should be the main audience and feel supported.

JinglingSpringbells · 13/02/2023 22:24

If I was a trans man I'd find the advert offensive and hilarious at the same time.
Sticking a false 'tache on a woman and giving them a bulge in their pants wouldn't persuade me to buy the product. It's patronising.
I'd have been buying period products all my life, or for some time, regardless of how I identified.

I have no issue at all with anyone doing whatever they want with their gender. Their choice. But what I object to in adverts - on TV, magazines etc etc- is that it's about 50% of the population- as in this ad- 50-50 woman and trans man.

And- more seriously- women's safe spaces are being lost in many instances to the trans movement. Women react to what may appear a benign advert like this, as deeper issues are at stake and it's a slwo hacking away at their rights and safety.

Emilypank · 13/02/2023 22:28

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Quent · 13/02/2023 22:31

Transmen exist and some use period products.

That's just a fact. There aren't very many of them compared to women who use period products, but so what? Why shouldn't there be specific products marketed towards them?

Mira28 · 13/02/2023 22:34

devonianpricklypear · 13/02/2023 21:05

If you were born a woman and are comfortable with that identity, then how can you tell people who don’t share that experience what they can consider hurtful?

I will never share the same experience as a trans person - but I can recognise they are not hurting me and therefore let them live their lives.Especially when transitioning or embracing gender non-conformity may save their life.

Empathy is a basic life skill.

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If you were born a woman and are comfortable with that identity

What* *does it mean, „that identity“?
What is the „identity“ of a woman? Someone who likes to wear dresses? Makeup? Heels? Who watches certain TV shows? Chooses certain careers, or no career at all and is happy to be a SAHM? What „identity“ unites all women apart from the fact that they’re human beings of the female sex?
And are all women who don’t fulfill ultra feminine stereotypes non-binary (or even trans)?

Grimchmas · 13/02/2023 22:34

In brutal honesty, trans identifying people need some basic resilience. Referring to biological sex when it comes to products for biological women shouldn't be harmful to TM - and all of the TM that I know aren't offended by it, because they know their own sex. It's important to retain the words women and men to mean biological sex, for many reasons, too long to write here. If the use of such words in earnest context such as period pants is considered harmful by an individual, that individual needs help to be more resilient because oh my goodness life is much, much harder than that.

YoBeaches · 13/02/2023 22:35

discobrain · 13/02/2023 20:48

Oh get over it.

I'm a non binary perimenopausal person on HRT, and I for one am incredibly grateful that some brands are doing this.

Given the website immediately makes you choose a binary category, what exactly are they doing for non binary people?

Cashing in on the bandwagon, Perhaps?