Week 4 - Leaving Lockdown Bootcamp

[BIWI]

Morning all!

here's the spreadsheet . If you haven't already seen it, check out the new info for veg/nuts/fruit that @AthelstaneTheUnready has added to it. Updated (and hopefully now the most accurate) data for all three categories, and all grouped into traffic light categories - green to eat freely (when allowed, in the case of nuts and fruit), amber to be more cautious about and red to avoid as much as possible.

If there's a particular ingredient that isn't on there, just let me know and I'll find the data for that and add it.

And now to week 4

A reminder that this week is also one where you're unlikely to see much loss - and possibly may see a gain. Just remember that THIS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL! Don't panic, but just KOKO and things should get moving again from next week.

Off to catch up with the end of last week's thread now. Hope everyone has an enjoyable bank holiday Monday

ilovecherries oh you poor thing!!! Hope you feel better tomorrow.

Managed to avoid the carbs today

Quick food post.
B. Creamy coffee, fry - 2 eggs, 1 each sausage, b&w pudding.
L, ham & cheese slices 2X2
D. Pork, burger, coleslaw& B sprouts.
S. Tea & square 85% chocolate.
I was hunger later, so yogurt and peanut butter.

@orkneyfudge please don’t feel you have to lurk, jump in whenever you want! They put up with my inanities so I’m sure you’d be a welcome relief 😳

@ilovecherries if it’s water water water I’ve been there. Hope it’s that anyway!

@colouringindoors 👍 yey!

Morning all

I hope yesterday went as well as it could @ZiggZagg

Loving the recipe ideas, going to look at the kedgeree for sure.
Also is the green sup on the veg recipe list? I like the sound of that, will feel a bit weird having soup without bread however!

Another tough day at work today but hopefully slightly less intense as yesterday.

@colouringindoorsb🎉👏⭐️

@ilovecherries - really interesting & encouraging story. Sorry you’ve had a tough time and hope you feel better soon.

Thank you people who commented about hair loss. Because my hair is curly it is harder to tell as I don't brush it, but was panicking as it is thin and so loosing a handful feels a lot! @StuntNun why does it enter its shedding phase earlier?!

Todays plan
L sardine, avo and olive salad
D tofu stir fry with lots of crispy fried cabbage
MIM hiit session

@Bestbees https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/weight-loss-and-hair-loss

Just to quickly answer re puppies we are getting a shitzu

@ilovecherries great post, thanks for sharing, sorry you had such an awful year. I started this at the beginning of the year thinking I'll do it for a month and then carried on, now I feel better not bloated. Weight loss has slowed right down but I'm ok with that I'm in no rush. I intend to eat this way now as it's what my body needs.
@ZiggZagg I hope yesterday was as good as it could be. 💐

I have alopecia, so I was really interested to read that article stuntnun, to see if weight loss might have additional negative affects on my hair. Thankfully, the message I took away from it is that any loss associated with dieting is likely to be a consequence of poor nutrition, which I don't think this woe makes us vulnerable to.

The other thing the article hints at, though, as a possible cause, is hormonal changes. Of course, this woe is aiming at hormonal changes in the sense that it is rebalancing certain digestive hormones. But I'm guessing that those wouldn't be the ones implicated in hair loss? Are there any other hormonal changes that weight loss may create? Perhaps these would only be provoked by very severe and sudden loss rather than the healthy weight loss we are aiming at in bootccamp?

On the whole i feel pretty confident that this woe nourishes my hair better than my former eating. It is also associated with reduction in inflammation, I think, which may turn out to be good for me since inflammation is implicated in alopecia.

@Covid10lbs

Quick food post. B. Creamy coffee, fry - 2 eggs, 1 each sausage, b&w pudding. L, ham & cheese slices 2X2 D. Pork, burger, coleslaw& B sprouts. S. Tea & square 85% chocolate. I was hunger later, so yogurt and peanut butter.

@Covid10lbs

Surely b&w pudding will be very carby?

And where are your vegetables? Only coleslaw (which could also be pretty carby, especially if shop bought).

And if you were still hungry, then you weren't eating enough/enough fat at your meals!

Hope all was good yesterday @ZiggZagg

Very moving post ilovecherries, sorry you’ve had
such a rubbish time.

Meeting 5 colleagues for a walk today, haven’t actually met one of them in person as they joined us during the pandemic. So looking forward to it!!

Middle of the week, 😀

@Random789 The Diet Doctor also writes about hair loss which may be helpful for you

The weather has improved today which means so has my mood!
So after the week from hell (DS surgery, ring breaking, mother of all periods) I have managed to stay fairly good food wise. Apart from sundays chinese. No where enough water but I hope to sort that out next five days and pull it back a bit.
DH on a late again today which means doing every thing single handedly. So food needs to be easy to prep and cook with the minions round my feet. I’ll go have a look what we have in.
KOKO all, today is going to be a good day

Biwi there were sprouts in Covid20s too.

Yes @MrsBertBibby I saw that - but not much other veg and certainly not FLGV!

First poppy of the year this morning.

Morning all. Weighed myself this morning and it wasn't good. Hey ho. Many thanks for the claps though!

Well done Linda hope your week improves.

I have work this morning and a child free afternoon thank goodness. Chance for a bit of headspace.

L mozz and tomato with oily dressing

D I have cold roast chicken, mushrooms and those konjac noodles. Any suggestions v welcome!

Does weight loss improve after week 4? If so, why is that?

Trying to keep to plan while away.
Yesterday:
B - egg, mushroom, tomato bacon (was overnight in friend's B&B so turned down fruit juice, muesli, fresh fruit salad, cereals, French toast with maple syrup, toast and marmalade)
L - avocado and tuna on Schneider Brot with lots of salad and olive oil
D - sausages and lots of green veg Stir fried plus herb butter (although it did include some peas thanks to the co-op green veg mix which has leeks, broccoli, green beans, peas and herb butter)

Today:
B - Greek yogurt
L - in a cafe which I think will be a ploughman's and salad, leaving the bread etc
D - a sort of Mexican chicken: fried chicken, fried mixed veg (peppers, baby corn, cabbage - thanks to the co-op again) topped with guacamole, sour cream, salsa

Amazing what you can do on a 2 ring burner in a campervan.

I'm not managing to drink all the water, and as it is I've had a wee on every beach in Tiree!

Weight loss gets going again around week 5, @colouringindoors, as by now your body will have transitioned to fat-burning proper.

The rate of loss should be around 1-2lbs a week (more if you have a lot to lose), and I know this may not seem much, but rest assured this will all be fat that you're burning!

Colouring could you get more FLGV with that? E.g. spinach (or other lettuce type greens) with your tomato and mozzarella? Stir fry veg with your chicken and noodles, I think there were some good simple stir fry recipes discussed fairly recently on these threads.

Morning all! Nice to see the stick come out so early in the day

Struggling to mind the mental horsepower to contribute much this week. Long story short, my French bods have not turned up. I travelled down here on Sunday afternoon, car laden with everything needed to make the four of them as comfortable as possible. Individual fecking chargers/plug sockets; translated menus; even bastard sugar cubes. Got a call at 7am bank holiday monday telling me it was too risky for them owing to quarantine on the return journey. They were fully aware of the rules. The rules had not changed. It was only on Saturday that they were confirming bloody safety shoe sizes and food intolerances.

Went to tell the owner of the business and I felt like a police constable delivering very bad news on the telly.

So, we're trying to do as much as we can via Zoom, but it's not the same and will delay the transaction by weeks/months. There's also a lack of trust on our side now as, let's face it, it is spectacularly bad form.

Am also stuck in a remote cottage in the woods with no wifi, no TV, no curtains and plenty of things going bump in the night.

Shall we look for positives?

• I don't have to try and dodge any foods at the elaborate, privately-catered dinners we'd booked;

-I know the French for Baked Alaska (omelette norvegienne) which is both ridiculous and potentially useful one day; -I brought enough ready-prepared meals with me to last the week. The nightly surprise of what I've just defrosted is quite fun. Chicken Alfredo, hotpot, curry, omelettes, combo of broccoli, cauliflower all reheat very well, so that's good to know. Courgettes and aubergine do not. Also good to know; -I am very much on plan in terms of food and water (albeit less on plan in terms of the amount of red wine I had on Monday evening); -Nobody has thus far asked me for batteries for an xbox controller. First time in years.

I'll shake it off of course (one of the benefits of having hidden shallows), but am a little discombobulated.

Will try harder in the balance of the week to interact with you all- particularly given some of the actual suffering here, but I promise I am reading everything through a veil of tears

That sounds incredibly annoying @nowlook!