Week 3 - Leaving Lockdown Bootcamp

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As ever here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

I rather suspect, given the confessions/visits by Cathy Twat, that a lot of Bootcampers aren't going to have much luck on the scales at the end of this week.

As I've warned, cheating really won't help - and this is a very unforgiving WOE. I have all my fingers and toes crossed that you will be lucky, and will see a good result on the scales, however. Or with the tape measure - or that you're fitting into your clothes better.

So now you have a choice

After the first two strict weeks of Bootcamp you can, if you wish, move on to Bootcamp Light. This means that you can re-introduce some fruit (mainly berries) and some nuts/seeds, and alcohol in moderation - and restricted to dry wine and clear spirits.

BUT

... you also need to remember/know that weeks 3 & 4 are notorious for seeing little or no weight loss - sometimes you may even see a slight gain.

So it's up to you if you want to relax things.

If you haven't been totally on plan over the last week, I strongly recommend that you stay on strict Bootcamp for another week

If you feel you're ready to move on, then you can go to full-on Bootcamp Light, or you could consider a hybrid - so strict Bootcamp during the week and then Bootcamp Light at the weekend.

Whatever your choice, I hope that week 3 is kind to you!

Please, please, please remember that this week/next week are our infamous 'Doldrums' and so don't be disappointed if you don't see any losses on the scales

This is also another good reason why you should be taking your measurements - the scales might not be moving, but your body shape may well be changing.

Anyway, whatever you decide, good luck!

Sorry things are so tough for your little boy at the moment ListenLinda

I feel that I ate too much yesterday. The right stuff but poor portion control. And the cream in coffee thing is getting a bit too naughty. I need to have just one daily coffee with cream.

2 coffees with cream
B: cheesy omlette with veg
L:Fried egg
D: Chicken drumsticks baked with butter and mascarpone and cabbage. Made enough for two dinners. Ate all of it.
1 coffee with crean, 1 square of 100% chocolate.

Was planning to go for a run but feel incredibly shattered this morning. So my first Move it May challenge will just be a walk that DH and I are going on with a couple of friends. THat starts from a coffee shop, though, so I will have to take care!

Congratulations on the weight loss, mrsbertbibby!

I was also loosely planning a run but bit tired after sleeping badly- wine does that to me now, another reason to keep it moderate. Yoga it is.

Great dinner yesterday DH asserted was "restaurant standard" though I can't wait until we can actually have the real thing. Beautiful venison steaks, asparagus and a creamy cabbage side dish I picked up in M&S and will definitely buy (or recreate) again. It had a touch of nutmeg, lovely.

That first asparagus wee of the season is always a surprise, isn't it.

We're having venison tonight must remember to get them out the freezer

I'll serve asparagus and celeriac chips with them.

Phew! Caught up!
Sorry to hear about your poor little son Linda for you.
Lovely to hear the reminiscing about PE and dinners! I still give my kids banana and custard...My son loves Birds custard!
I’ve had a crazy week. DH been away training (he is RNLI) at the college in Poole. Spent all week being thrown around in a sea simulator pool! Sounds fun (and scary). He’s back now but off again next week. So I’ve had school run/work/house etc solo which has been hard! Absolutely pooped now.
Have had a good loss this week 😊 yesterday was lowest at 161.8 but today after a late dinner and a huge glass of wine 162.2. So I’ve lost about 2lbs give or take after a couple of weeks of sts. I think I look different. Face and general girth reduced! I’m glad to see it working as I tend to be slower to lose! Have had some berries and a bit of almond chocolate this week but all above board and meals have been good. Definitely feeling less hungry.

Not sure about 16:8 at this point. Because I’m a teacher, I often don’t get to stop to eat till 13.40 (outr lunch time) and I am worried about being starving and consuming staff room snacks (you know what staff rooms are like!!) At the mo, I have eggs and avo or sometimes livlife bread and on if late up, which sees me through no probs. Then salad and (usually) chicken for lunch with avocado oil and cider vinegar dressing. Then home I find a cuppa hells to keep me going until dinner. Then I’m flat out bloody working till 10 so no time for hunger!! Genuinely absolutely shattered. Hoping that this weekend - except for work/marking - is restful...my eye excema is still deeply annoying. Might go for steroids cream.

In other news I have been invited for jab!

[quote Oneborneverydecade]@ouchmyfeet how're you getting on? I've possibly misremembered but did you post you'd had a not so great couple of weeks? Did you manage to get a grip?[/quote]
Ahhh I just wrote a big reply and lost it all 

Got to go to get kids to football now but will be back later. Thanks for asking!

Sounds very stressful @ListenLinda, I hope you and your DS feel better soon x

Too much wine and I fell at the crisp hurdle then was awake half the night as like @Rayna37 too much wine ruins my sleep now I'm in my 50s. Just feel like diving into a mountain of buttered toast but WILL RESIST and have another cup of tea instead.

@ListenLinda your poor DS, and you, I hope this is a temporary thing and he feels much better very soon.

Did you recognise the office @Jellycatspyjamas or was it all very different?

I'm with you on the haircut too, though my appointment is later this month. Shall be almost sorry to have to 'do' stuff to it.

I've rocked the scrape all back and clasp in place look 😆

So very different, lots of one way systems, entry/exit only doors, a new phone system and very very quiet. It was good to actually see people, we’re a very small team so could all be in one place for the first time in a long time. I was knackered last night though, who knew being with people could take so much out of you.

Banana custard makes me want to cry - reminds me of my lovely mum who’s nkk ok longer with us. Also banana sandwiches.... not very boot camp

@Pleaseandthankyou you raise interesting points re maintenance. I should actually still be losing as my bmi is still 27ish, but having lost just over 4 stone I’m finding it really difficult to get this last stone off - mainly because of alcohol I think. Like you I’m fine Monday to Thursday, then the weekend comes, I have a drink and I undo any weight loss in the first half of the week. If I was maintaining it would be fine, but I would still like to lose that last bit.

I just find it difficult to deprive myself of something I really enjoy when I eat well and exercise regularly all the rest of the time.
Last night I had no plans to have a drink but actually had family meal around a table for the first time in weeks so opened a bottle and... finished it . Then ate chocolate obvs. Oh and crisps.

As I say, if I was maintaining I could accept this, but I suppose I should just try (again) to give up the demon drink for a month or so to give myself the chance to lose the final pounds. I’m hovering around 83kg and would SO love to get under 80 for the first time in my life.

Good morning all
@ifeelmuchlessfat the banana sandwiches remind me off my mum too who passed 3 years ago next Saturday.
My dad bought flowers yesterday for her grave for the first time in his life he was super proud of himself could you imagine how proud he would have been if he had given her a bunch when she was alive.
He used pick her bluebells and honeysuckle on the farm and she was happy with that.
@listenlinda hope your son ok.
@MrsBertBibby @devoncreamtea well done on your losses.
Off to to weekly shop and have a nice list off healthy foods.
Is there any shop bought lidl curries I could get for Saturday night treat we normally have pizza wedges gougons dont want to be cooking.
Have a nice Saturday

Morning all! down a pound this morning, but have headache so am hoping I'm not dehydrated!!! Edging nearer to my 11st milestone which is fab

L bacon eggs mushrooms
D sea bass in herby butter, brocolli, (large glass pinot grigio)

yesterday

L avocado, prawns and mayo
D aubergine in tom sauce w a little onion, loads of mozz

Another fan of banana custard here, a real comforting reminder from childhood.

@Rayna37

That first asparagus wee of the season is always a surprise, isn't it.

Apparently not everyone gets "asparagus wee" which I find very odd!

ifeelmuchlessfat not drinking in the first 2 weeks was the hardest part of bootcamp for me (And I slipped up). I'm still finding it v challenging to have only one/two drinks on a fri and sat nights. I have had some success by telling myself that if I snack as a result of the glass of wine, then there's no wine next weekend. It's not an ideal approach, but works about 50% of the time... I rarely go off the bc rails unless I've had an alcoholic drink. I now have almost no alcohol in the house which helps, and this weekend I bought a couple of cans of g and t and a mini bottle of wine. Does make me sound like an alcoholic. I have def relied on alcohol over the last 5+ years, going though endless major trauma, but I know its not healthy and things have to change - one of which is weight.

Hope you find a way to work through this.

I don't . Apparently it's genetic as to whether you get it or not

What's Asparagus wee???

I've read on here 'keep away from the tracker' does this relate to a carb tracker? If so, why is it not good to track carbs?

I was thinking I should probably start racking them because although I think I am following the plan, I don't think I am actually losing any weight.

Last night I foolishly drank wine thinking it would be ok as a treat, and ended up drinking 2 large glasses. I have stepped on the scales this morning for the first time since last Monday, and I have gained 1lb. I know this may be a daily blip, but I think I should maybe start tracking what I eat more carefully, because I think I am really clueless about carb values and it might help me learn.

Asparagus pee: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/why-does-asparagus-make-your-pee-smell#bottom-line

According to that, the genetic bit relates to not being able to smell it ; it doesn't make it clear whether the lack of ability to produce the sulphuric by-products is genetic

@ElasticFirecracker : I think that refers to things like MFP. If you're following the Rules, you shouldn't be obsessing about counting carbs (or calories).

You have to trust the process and KOKO: I'm on the phone so can't check back on your progress, but we're in Week 3 and progress often stalls in Weeks 3, 4 and 5, after the initial whoosh . It can also stall on occasions as you reach one of your body's "set" weights and "homeostasis" I think that's the right word kicks in. Again, you just need to KOKO and in time, your body will recognise that it doesn't need to worry and cling on to its reserves, so that the scales will start moving downwards again.

Asparagus wee. DH and I both have the gene. Phew. We probably eat it 3 times a week in season. You never get used to the smell though.

I had a real struggle not to have cereal for breakfast today. It’s been easy for me so far but the last few days have been so stressful.
DM was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s this week and I am her main carer so very sad about that plus stressing about what the future holds for her. I also have an urgent referral for a hysteroscopy next week under the two week rule so that is on my mind too.
I ended up microwaving a few raspberries and stirring into Greek yoghurt which was nice but would have been nicer with some granola.

Off to Tesco today so am going to treat myself to some 90% chocolate and some nice food.

@BestIsWest solidarity - I have the breast clinic on Sat under the 2 week referral. I manage to forget about it most of the time and then suddenly am thrown right off track when I remember.

@ListenLinda have you tried the syringe instead of a spoon?? Poor old thing.

@Bestbees good idea I'll start palming some of it off on the kids!!

Right - off to the food festival armed with back up pack up (oooh that rhymes) just in case!!

@FusionChefGeoff Solidarity and fingers crossed for us both.

[quote prettybird]@ElasticFirecracker : I think that refers to things like MFP. If you're following the Rules, you shouldn't be obsessing about counting carbs (or calories).

You have to trust the process and KOKO: I'm on the phone so can't check back on your progress, but we're in Week 3 and progress often stalls in Weeks 3, 4 and 5, after the initial whoosh . It can also stall on occasions as you reach one of your body's "set" weights and "homeostasis" I think that's the right word kicks in. Again, you just need to KOKO and in time, your body will recognise that it doesn't need to worry and cling on to its reserves, so that the scales will start moving downwards again. [/quote]
Thank you @prettybird . I'll do just as you say.

[quote Oneborneverydecade]@ouchmyfeet how're you getting on? I've possibly misremembered but did you post you'd had a not so great couple of weeks? Did you manage to get a grip?[/quote]
@Oneborneverydecade Ok I'm back. I think it's too early to say I've got a grip but I've definitely just had a better week. Don't want to overstate it, just had a busy month of birthdays and also had 2 weeks off work with kids off school and got a bit derailed.

I'm also trying to move house, which has been on and off and then back on again three or four times in the last month and is really stressing me out. I didn't realise until the pandemic hit and we went into lockdown how much stress makes me want to eat. I've always loved food and would always eat my emotions to be honest (good and bad) but I've never put weight on at the rate that I did in those first few months this time last year so I'm trying to address that. Perhaps some bootcampers will have words of wisdom for me, at the moment my attempts to stop stress eating literally consist of being aware that I want to eat because I'm stressed so not letting myself do that. I feel sure there must be a better way. To use one of those awful work style L&D models, I'm in the conscious incompetence phase now, and need to work my way to unconscious competence!

My weight is coming down again this week and I'm really hoping that by Monday I will be below 20stone. I know it's still horrendously overweight but to have my weight in stone start with a 1 instead of a 2 would be great for me, and it's been at least a year since I've been there, probably more.