Week 3 - Leaving Lockdown Bootcamp

[BIWI]

As ever here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

I rather suspect, given the confessions/visits by Cathy Twat, that a lot of Bootcampers aren't going to have much luck on the scales at the end of this week.

As I've warned, cheating really won't help - and this is a very unforgiving WOE. I have all my fingers and toes crossed that you will be lucky, and will see a good result on the scales, however. Or with the tape measure - or that you're fitting into your clothes better.

So now you have a choice

After the first two strict weeks of Bootcamp you can, if you wish, move on to Bootcamp Light. This means that you can re-introduce some fruit (mainly berries) and some nuts/seeds, and alcohol in moderation - and restricted to dry wine and clear spirits.

BUT

... you also need to remember/know that weeks 3 & 4 are notorious for seeing little or no weight loss - sometimes you may even see a slight gain.

So it's up to you if you want to relax things.

If you haven't been totally on plan over the last week, I strongly recommend that you stay on strict Bootcamp for another week

If you feel you're ready to move on, then you can go to full-on Bootcamp Light, or you could consider a hybrid - so strict Bootcamp during the week and then Bootcamp Light at the weekend.

Whatever your choice, I hope that week 3 is kind to you!

Please, please, please remember that this week/next week are our infamous 'Doldrums' and so don't be disappointed if you don't see any losses on the scales

This is also another good reason why you should be taking your measurements - the scales might not be moving, but your body shape may well be changing.

Anyway, whatever you decide, good luck!

Morning all - happy Friday. Trying to keep up with the thread: Fingers tightly crossed for you geoff. So sorry about your back colouring. Well done on your losses littleowl and bestbees

I’m noticing quite a lot of fashion nous on this thread. Can I ask for some advice? I am shortly going to need to be going into the office more (3 days out of 5) and although it’s not city formal I need to be office appropriate. I have a limited wardrobe (due to weight gain) which comprises 75% midi dresses. Over autumn/winter I wore these with long boots or black Chelsea boots + tights and out of work I wear them with trainers.
But what could I wear them with at work in spring/summer? I have a ton of court shoes but high heels look imbalanced and mid heels look a bit frumpy fashion-fail. Block heeled sandals are ok but no good when it’s raining.
Help! Thx in advance.

@TheHoover would loafers or brogues work for you?

I don’t have either but very open to the suggestion! Would they def work with midis? I wore out a pair of nude 2inch heeled heeled loafers last year and think I need to replace them .

Woo hoo - down to 11st 1.75lb, which is back to where I got to for my birthday and the lowest I've been since Christmas 2018.

And I dd isn't drink my full water allocation yesterday, so if I work hard at that over the next few days, I should but you never know be rewarded on Monday

Two weeks to get under 11st by my hair appointment (and wedding anniversary the following day ).

"dd isn't" = "didn't"

@SunsetSeaCow Welcome back! All transgressors welcomed back into the fold

Any frequent business travellers? My French bods are arriving on lundi Monday for a week-long visit. It's really important to me and my bank balance that things go swimmingly. I have universal extension leads/travel plug/face masks/hand santiser/wifi hotspot. Is there anything else that typically makes your life difficult when you're abroad? Luckily we're the same voltage (I'm looking at you, America).

B: Greek yog
L: Chicken & cream cheese lettuce wraps
D: Pork steaks and FLGV

Need more water intake, I felt smaller this morning and hopped on the scales to see no change at all, but I’ll settle for just the feeling for now!

Good luck everyone with Bank Holiday staying on the wagon. I have no plans as yet which bodes well for staying on target.

@TheHoover I’m not fashiony but would probably try and find a closed toe wedge heel. So you can add tights if you need to and not if not. Doesn’t look as fussy as a court shoe.

I think introducing carbs at the weekend is pushing my weight up but bootcamping during the week is bringing it down again. I am not snacking so that is probably helping. I’m not hungry. I’m at work most of the time and the only things to eat are milk chocolate and crisps so no temptation for me. No alcohol during the week must be making a difference. I do have a square of Lindt dark chocolate every day at some point with a cup of tea but only one. My social life has really declined under lockdown. I am just able to start seeing friends again so maybe it’s all about to go to pot. Plus I am the top of the normal bmi range. It might be a different story if I was in the middle.

@TheHoover

Morning all - happy Friday. Trying to keep up with the thread: Fingers tightly crossed for you geoff. So sorry about your back colouring. Well done on your losses littleowl and bestbees

I’m noticing quite a lot of fashion nous on this thread. Can I ask for some advice? I am shortly going to need to be going into the office more (3 days out of 5) and although it’s not city formal I need to be office appropriate. I have a limited wardrobe (due to weight gain) which comprises 75% midi dresses. Over autumn/winter I wore these with long boots or black Chelsea boots + tights and out of work I wear them with trainers.
But what could I wear them with at work in spring/summer? I have a ton of court shoes but high heels look imbalanced and mid heels look a bit frumpy fashion-fail. Block heeled sandals are ok but no good when it’s raining.
Help! Thx in advance.

People will wear trainers with midi-dresses now, but hell will freeze over before this particular short-arse does any such thing.

I wear closed-toe wedges (l.k. bennett from ebay). The ones where the wedge is the same colour/material as the upper. So, same height as your heels, but less like you're one of the Strictly professional dancers who make up the supporting cast during show numbers.

Attempted a roly-poly recently when DS3 talked about them, to much agony, only for him to then demonstrate not a forward roll but lying sideways and rolling the cheat!

Looking forward to the weekend before I head into a weird couple of weeks. DH is working nights, away, he's never done nights before but it's for some big project launch. It's only an hour away so he might pop home if it's not too mad/tiring. Means no swimming for me as I'll be in sole charge if DS but might be able to run between work and nursery pick up if I can be arsed. Planning lots of nice solo dinners that aren't too heavy on the washing up. It's mad how I cooked for myself basically the whole of my 20s but now the thought of doing both the cooking and clearing up seems a massive chore. Aiming for very strict BC to get things moving and more fish/veggie options than normal. I do have a couple of portions of cheeseburger pie in the freezer too. Off to M&S later for some nice meat then Aldi at the weekend. Going to be a super productive week hopefully without all that time just randomly hanging out in the kitchen.

Pleaseandthankyou, I'd like to be able to get to that sort of a halfway house with moderate carbs eventually. After all, carbs aren't really the enemy of the human race - we've evolved to use them too. It's just that in the short term we have to drastically restrict them in order to correct an imbalance in our digestive hormones, etc, created by overconsumption of carbs and our crappy food economy.
And then in the long-term we've got to avoid repeating the same overconsumption.

I feel very mindful of the fact that science is in a 'corrective phase' at the moment -- rectifying an oversteering towards carbs and away from fat. There does seem to be a danger in some of the literature of overcorrecting, so that we demonise carbs too much. I imagine that eventually that will settle down a bit.

Rayna37 - your cheeseburger pie makes it as far as the freezer?! I'm impressed, mine barely makes it into the fridge for leftovers the following day!

Celeriac chips with Boursin for lunch and cheeseburger pie for supper today :)

Tulips

Ha, I'm very strict with portions! So if it's one pack of minced beef, that's four dinners, so two for now and two for a later date when I need something quicker. Would seem extravagant to eat it for lunch, not sure why, a frugal upbringing? I flinch when DH just tells me to cook the whole pack of eg bacon/sausages if there's more than we need, as though I feel they have to go towards a proper meal and I'm worried they'll just get hoovered up. I am a meal planner and very anti-waste! Very anti-leftovers for most meals which I understand from MN is seen as quite controlling but at the end of the day I've generally cooked what (I think) we need. The fury when I occasionally finished my dinner only to find half the veg left in the pan- who does that?! So it's either deliberately enough more to be an actual extra meal or none left at all. Obviously there are exceptions: roasts, cooking for big groups etc.

Haa I'm so weird but right

@Rayna37

Ha, I'm very strict with portions! So if it's one pack of minced beef, that's four dinners, so two for now and two for a later date when I need something quicker. Would seem extravagant to eat it for lunch, not sure why, a frugal upbringing? I flinch when DH just tells me to cook the whole pack of eg bacon/sausages if there's more than we need, as though I feel they have to go towards a proper meal and I'm worried they'll just get hoovered up. I am a meal planner and very anti-waste! Very anti-leftovers for most meals which I understand from MN is seen as quite controlling but at the end of the day I've generally cooked what (I think) we need. The fury when I occasionally finished my dinner only to find half the veg left in the pan- who does that?! So it's either deliberately enough more to be an actual extra meal or none left at all. Obviously there are exceptions: roasts, cooking for big groups etc.

Haa I'm so weird but right

Ah, but how many meals can you get out of one MN chicken?

Lovely tulips

Gorgeous tulips mrs koala. I'm resolved to grow some exotic ones next year...

Haha nowlook - I remember being horrified at skinnies and ballet flats at first then wearing nothing else for a good few years (obviously I was slimmer then).

Now wedge heels....yes yes, you're both onto something...nude ones like our princess Kate....

More tulips.

And Pashley looking fabulous

@Rayna37 I have the same thinking. I was taught it at school. A meal should be based around a protein substance - either meat, fish, eggs or cheese.This should be accompanied by at least two different vegetables and a small amount of starch (potatoes, bread).

At home we had tiny portions of meat, fish or whatever it was because it was expensive, and I think would just have been considered reckless and extravagant. Every meal came with bread and butter to fill you up. Cauliflower cheese was a whole meal, with peas. Having it as a side dish would have seemed like madness.

But this was a long time ago, before there was such a huge amount of processed food available, and before freezers. People just had a small ice compartment that you could fit an ice cube tray, a packet of frozen peas, and a small packet of fish fingers in.

Same here Elastic. Cauliflower cheese would definitely have been a whole meal.

Each week had its own eating rhythm. Big roast on Sunday. Not much to eat the next day - often chicken dripping sandwiches if we'd had roast chicken. Then humdrum stuff throught the week, which would mostly be bought dy by day in the local shops. We definitely wouldn't have had a cupboard full of food to graze on. Just enough for the days' meals.

'Salad' was two limp dark green floppy lettuce leaves, sliced boiled egg, radishes that caused me more pain than a red hot chilli, and a half-pint glass in the middle of the table with sticks of celery in it.

Tomato sandwiches (with loads of salt) counted as a meal, and were very tasty because tomatoes were proper then.

The biggest treats were beans on toast and bananas in custard.

In the dregs of the week before payday or the Family Allowance, my mum was quite happy to fill us up with sugar sandwiches.

@TheHoover how tall are you? I think midi dresses can be quite a hard length to pull off. They often end at the think part of the calves (which is why I avoid them). Also a summery flows midi will look better with a different style of shoes than a formal pencil dress style. If you are tall and/or don’t want any extra height animal print or metallic pumps or loafers can look good with a dress or cropped trousers. If you are slimmer above the calves around the knee maybe have the dresses taken up a bit or look for an A line thigh skimming skirt which ends at the knees/slimmest part? Are you an apple, pear or hourglass?

Lunch out today was divine. Thanks for the advice @BIWI . I had the jam on and olives to start (shared with my Dad) and the sea bass and fennel with a side salad, followed by the cheese board (to share with my dad again). They’ve made the garden even better with loads more tulips there too and these sheltered heated booths. Also if you want to stay they have these quirky pods to stay in. It’s called The Bell in Ticehurst and if anyone’s down that way I thoroughly recommend it.

@Random789 I'm feeling all nostalgic for tomato sandwiches, we had those too.

Tomatoes featured quite a lot as a vegetable. A meal might be 2 slices corned beef, mashed potato and a cut up tomato. I must have had either boiled or mashed spuds nearly every day.

We had the celery in the glass and also remember tinned pilchards just lying there.

Toast was another popular meal. On a Sunday after the big dinner we'd have toast and jam for tea. I don't think we would ever have two cooked meals in a day. One meal would be cooked and the other meal would be toast. Or if we were lucky cheese on toast or sandwiches.

We did have porridge for breakfast which was cooked.

There was never anything to just snack on and looking back most of the meals were what we now call snacks.

We had puddings, mum made apple pie and birds custard and often we had Instant Whip which came in a sachet and was the forerunner of Angel Delight and would probably be illegal today.

I'd forgotten all about Banana custard. That was treat of all treats.

Banana custard was always such a treat. Havent had it for years but I can smell it now