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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 9 - Low Carb Bootcamp - only 2 weeks to go ...

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BIWI · 15/03/2021 08:06

Morning all.

[[Here's the Spreadsheet as always
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18CKhdQ3FlGz_8H53AA2Pqm4xmvGLHO6vBrkNWCkSO48/edit#gid=788946144 ]]

I hope everyone had a good week, and that any Mother's Day treats haven't messed things up too much Grin

So we enter our final two weeks. Still time to shift a couple of those pesky pounds - especially if you keep focused and stay strict. And a reminder, channelling my inner Shag, WATER, WATER, WATER!

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BIWI · 18/03/2021 15:43

Oh my @GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal - that's a story and a half! Flowers

You absolutely are in the right place to talk about things like that. If losing weight was purely rational and black and white, none of us would be here in the first place! Our relationships with food and eating are often very complex, and being able to untangle things just a little is key to any success.

I'm very glad you posted at all, as it seems that your post and the ones you've had in response have probably given you some insight into what could have been the start of disordered eating, which obviously we don't want to see or encourage.

Please feel free to eat more/your breakfast!

And, honestly:

the carbs I miss are the ones I only had occasionally, as "treats". Croissant, and spanokopita, and roast potatoes. Things like that

... there's absolutely nothing to stop you having any of these occasionally.

What you are eating should be totally pleasurable, rather than about denial.

Flowers again.

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cheeseisthebest · 18/03/2021 15:52

Mimosa I had the cornish cheese crunch yesterday, delicious!

RagzReturnsRebooted · 18/03/2021 16:46

@StuntNun

Carb cycling might be an option but I think it would be better to look at calories and macros before opting for carb cycling - unless you might be hypothyroid in which case regular carb refeeds can help boost the thyroid hormones.
How have I missed this? I'm feeling ridiculously tired the last few days and wondering if I've been forgetting my thyroxine, but I haven't. I'll have to look into how often I should be refeeding and what with. I didn't get this last time I did LC but I'm pretty sure I had the odd cheat meal at least once a month back then (probably more, it did take me around 18 months to lose 50lbs), whereas I've not had a day over 30g carbs (at a guess) in over 6 weeks.
RagzReturnsRebooted · 18/03/2021 16:51

Looks like I'm going to have to count carbs for a bit until I'm comfortable with what 30g minimum is. Hopefully my veg increasing plan will cover that. Interesting about the fasting too, I may have to stop that.

Week 9 - Low Carb Bootcamp - only 2 weeks to go ...
Justcallmecaptainobvious · 18/03/2021 17:19

@GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal I’m glad you felt able to share your story here. This is absolutely the place to do it. Losing weight is absolutely not just about knowing what to eat - if it were then we’d all be slim! All of our experiences and emotions play a massive part, unpacking them is hugely important.

ShagMeRiggins · 18/03/2021 17:27

Greebo you get a Star today because you knew to come here and talk about things rather than continue to struggle on your own.

It’s easy to hide. We’ve all done it.

It’s not so easy to...erm..come out.

Mwah!

venusandmars · 18/03/2021 17:34

@RagzReturnsRebooted your course was sort of correct in that (in general) the energy in / energy out balance does come into play, but imo the difference is a) how sustainable it is; and b) other metabolic impacts

So I can eat a healthy low carb high fat diet, or I can eat a healthy high carb low fat diet (rice, beans, lentils etc). But on this woe the fat and the protein keep me feeling full and happy, and I add in loads of veg. High carb, low fat, leaves me feeling hungry, hangry, and like I'm missing out. For me one is sustainable long term, the other isn't.

Also as someone prone to high blood pressure, this way of eating and the steadiness of my insulin, helps to keep my blood pressure under control. I can get up in the morning and walk for hours because my body is adapted to using fat for fuel, I don't need to snack on kits-kats or bananas to give me available glucose and refuel my glycogen stores.

@prettybird Did I dream it or were you going to experiment with making a low-carb version of your sourdough bread? Or was it a homemade version of the SLC bread?

@MrsOmelette We still laugh about the cannon ball turnip we got in our veg box. It was huge. And made of steel. dh had to help me chop it. I microwaved it, boiled it, then cooked it in the oven, and STILL it wasn't soft and lovely. There's another one staring at me from the veg box now. Fingers crossed it's from a different field!

BIWI · 18/03/2021 17:37

I thought of you and your swede it's not a turnip yesterday @venusandmars, when I was trying to prepare mine! I got my biggest knife stuck in it, and couldn't move it up or down. Tried banging the whole thing on the chopping board but all that did was wedge it even further. Finally managed to get the knife out and then just had to hack at bits of it before I could finally peel the bugger!

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cheeseisthebest · 18/03/2021 17:49

Catching up, grebo thank you for sharing. Flowers
Also I am intrigued are you a stage or television actress, now want more info about your work!! Very exciting!

LongtimelurkerL · 18/03/2021 17:49

Are we allowed ice cream on this WOE? I’ve just had a mound of asparagus and leeks in butter with my 2 egg pizza topped with anchovies and goats cheese - was amazing! Def feel lovely and full and not really craving carbs. Was strong and put the other half of the normal pizza my DD had in the food bin (waste I know, there weren’t any mini pizzas made for one!)

@venusandmars that sounds hilarious!! I’ve had veg like that before and done the banging thing @BIWI

Sorry to hear your backstory @GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal but thank you for sharing

BIWI · 18/03/2021 17:54

Are we allowed ice cream on this WOE

No! Because it's made with sugar.

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GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 18/03/2021 17:57

@cheeseisthebest

Catching up, grebo thank you for sharing. Flowers Also I am intrigued are you a stage or television actress, now want more info about your work!! Very exciting!

Ha, only stage thus far - when I did my first Bootcamp I was just getting back into it professionally after a prolonged career break. Part of my reason for joining Bootcamp was because I'd badly injured my back in a stage fight, which was partly due to being out of practice, but mostly due to having got fat and unfit!

I started Bootcamp, combined with physio and exercise, and starred a post-grad training course to refresh my skills. It was all going really well till COVID-19 hit!

Still, I did eventually manage to complete the course, and got an agent out of it, who's trying his best to get me some screen work, so...watch this space I guess!

Thank you so much everyone for your support and kind words. It really does mean the world to me. I started today feeling angry and frustrated and fucking miserable, really. I'm feeling much better now. Smile

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 18/03/2021 17:59

@ShagMeRiggins

Greebo you get a Star today because you knew to come here and talk about things rather than continue to struggle on your own.

It’s easy to hide. We’ve all done it.

It’s not so easy to...erm..come out.

Mwah!

Thank you @ShagMeRiggins. And you're quite right, I was hiding. I didn't want to "admit" I was gaining not losing.

venusandmars · 18/03/2021 18:00

@GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal I've posted separately to you because you deserve a post all of your own...

Firstly, thank you for posting and sharing. It is because people CAN feel safe to do that, that makes this whole topic feel as safe and supportive as it does.

I too have had an issue with my scales - mostly because of uneven floors. I changed the batteries but I could still lose or gain half a stone in 3 minutes.... At the moment I have my scales on a wooden floor in the corner of my office, in the same spot. The weight may not be accurate, but it's accurate enough and it's consistent.

I feel for you. Last year I put on 20+ lockdown pounds. I kept joining up with BC threads then stopping filling in the spreadsheet because while others were doing brilliantly (I remember prettybird was on a roll). I was steadily creeping upwards. This time round, it seems to be my time (or my head and body are in the right place) and I'm slowly, slowly inching down.

I have an imaginary alter-ego which is my weight-loss body [just igore if this is all too weird]. I have to coax it in the right direction. Sometimes it just sticks where it is. Says 'this amount' of food input (of whatever type) is what I'm getting so I'd better maintain my homeostasis right here. I suppose that's what people call a weight-loss plateau.

Some people get over a plateau with a kick start e.g. a 3 day egg fast, others have a day when they reload carbs (in maintenance I have a day per week when I might have beans or rice or lentils, but I'm then careful not to also have high fat). For me one advantage of a higher carb day is some big action in the toilet department Blush which always feels healthy.

But at the moment, I'm trying to encourage my metabolic ego to feel safe. Safe enough to let go of some weight because it knows it won't starve. So although I'm a frequent 16:8 intermittent faster, a couple of days a week I'll have a great breakfast - eggs, sausage, bacon, mushrooms. Maybe a couple of days later I'll have a 23 hour fast.

I've also been re-thinking my whole concept of 'treats'. I no longer have a sweet tooth so a pudding is a distaste not a reward. It's a genuine treat to know that it's absolutely fine to have scrambled egg and smoked salmon 2 times in a week. And to make the scramble with double cream. But today my 'treat' was a 2.5hour walk in the sunshine. I wore sandals and paddled in the sea.

KOKO Greebo KOCBH (keep on coming back here). I loved hearing about your success in your acting career.

PS I guess that many other actors will be adjusting their profiles considerably more that you have!

StuntNun · 18/03/2021 18:05

You can get low carb ice creams Longtermlurker but they aren't very low carb so not really suitable for this way of eating. You'd have to eat such a tiny quantity that it's not really worth it.

Ragz it's pretty easy to stay above 30g of carbs a day. 100g of raspberries are 12g carbs. 50g of mixed nuts are 10.5g carbs. You could introduce the carbier vegetables such as carrots and beetroot.

RagzReturnsRebooted · 18/03/2021 18:28

@GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal hugs and Flowers I had similar issues in childhood and can relate to a lot of your post. I LOVED school dinners lol. I too struggled with 5:2 and stopped losing as I ate way too much the other days. I'm also unstoppable if there's free food (and work always has cake, biscuits, chocolate etc) because part of me always wants to eat the nice stuff before it's all gone in case I never get any again Blush - I have never managed to moderate well so I'm probably good at sticking with bootcamp because it has strict rules!

@StuntNun I've managed to hit 50g today by eating loads of veg (haven't actually eaten dinner yet but it's cooked and I was guesstimating quantities in MFP) but the downside is I'm nowhere near my protein goal apparently as I only had a bit of chorizo with breakfast and some bacon lardons in my vegetable bake (end of the week and nothing else in that would go with it).
Hoping that's enough for a bit of a carb refeed without setting off cravings. I'll read more around hypothyroid and low carb, but mostly will aim to eat more veg and a bit of fruit (seem to remember I should not be eating too many brassicas though, must check that).

@BIWI I checked the hypothyroid link (though I really should know by now having been diagnosed 10 years ago and I'm a nurse!) and realised I've been cold, down, tired and achey for nearly a week but it coincided with the period from hell so I hadn't really thought about it. Must pay more attention to my body...

prettybird · 18/03/2021 18:28

It's swings and roundabouts VenusandMars : I did well in one Boot Camp but crashed out of one if not two Boot Camp(s) last year Blush and fell off the wagon spectacularly in the month before the pre-Christmas one Shock (The advantage of that dive off the wagon was that I had a really good initial whoosh - but not something to be proud of Hmm).

I've been keeping my head down this Boot Camp as I've still not got back to my pre-Christmas weight, hovering at 11st 5/11st 6lb Sad I'd wanted to get to normal BMI by my 60th birthday (which is about 10st 9 or 10lb). I adjusted that to "it would be nice to get under 11st" - but as my birthday is now just under 3 weeks away, that's not going to happen Sad

But I know I'm looking good and SIL and my gardening friend (who came round today for a drink on the patio) both say that it looks like I've lost weight, so I'll take that Smile As gardening friend is a bloke, it must be obvious! Grin

I did indeed make a sort of sourdough/seeded version of the SLC bread. It was closer to the original Vogel bread (for those of you who remember that): ie quite dense and seeded. I need to do a bit more work on it and calculate the carbs per slice, but it worked well as toast Smile

LongtimelurkerL · 18/03/2021 18:51

Thanks @StuntNun and @BIWI - thought not but worth checking!

BIWI · 18/03/2021 18:54

There is this brand which is relatively low carb, at 9.4g per 100ml.

But it's very delicious, and it would be hard to stick at 100ml!

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prettybird · 18/03/2021 18:55

I've made "ice cream" by blitzing frozen summer fruits with some mascarpone Smile

RagzReturnsRebooted · 18/03/2021 18:56

@BIWI

There is this brand which is relatively low carb, at 9.4g per 100ml.

But it's very delicious, and it would be hard to stick at 100ml!

I used to have that occasionally when I did BC before. Goes well with some extra cream and a spoon of peanut butter, makes it more filling so you can stick to the 100ml serving.
RagzReturnsRebooted · 18/03/2021 18:58

@prettybird

I've made "ice cream" by blitzing frozen summer fruits with some mascarpone Smile
@prettybird was it you who made a low carb meringue roulade thing? I have erythritol now and am keen to use it for something!
prettybird · 18/03/2021 19:07

@RagzReturnsRebooted - yes it was. Recipe is on the Desserts and other sweet things thread (you need to scroll down a bit to find the thread as it's not currently pinned) - together with pictures.

It makes a lot, so if you have a smaller Swiss roll tin, I'd think about halving it. And then you don't have quite so many egg yolks to use up. Grin (I was also making a standard pavlova so that added to the number).

To whoever it was who was asking what to do with 12 egg yolks, here's a list:
• mayonnaise
• courgette carbonara (spaghetti carbonara for any non LCers in the household)
• extra rich scrambled eggs (ie a few "full" eggs plus some egg yolks).

MrsOmelette · 18/03/2021 19:13

@venusandmars cannon ball turnips, that’s how I’m always going to think of them now. 😂

BIWI · 18/03/2021 19:22

Swedes, you mean Grin

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