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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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ouchmyfeet · 23/01/2021 09:43

Feeling hungry this morning for the first time in ages so I'm off for some breakfast. Do I really need to add double cream to my 10% fat Greek yoghurt? It feels excessive

BIWI · 23/01/2021 09:45

No - if you're buying 10% fat yoghurt you don't need to. You might want to though, as it's bloomin' delicious Grin

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ouchmyfeet · 23/01/2021 09:46

Thanks BIWI, I'll leave it for now. Don't want to have too much dairy and I'm having cream in a couple of coffees each day so I'll stick with the yoghurt and sprinkle some cinnamon on it

Pleaseandthankyou · 23/01/2021 09:49

@GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal I am following bootcamp light. I made your scones this morning and they are lovely. I haven’t used almond flour before. The texture is unusual but they are lovely. I added Parmesan, garlic, roasted pepper flakes and mixed herbs. They are so easy to make , thank you.
Also thank you to the poster who gave the recipe for kale crisps. I would have set the oven much higher. 110 was perfect. They are just fantastic. Better than popcorn or crisps

prettybird · 23/01/2021 09:52

Need to point out that unless you started early and have already completed your 2 weeks strict Boot Camp or are veggie, the scones with almond flour should be left until Boot Camp Light Wink

Don't want to give newbies unsuitable ideas Grin

Pleaseandthankyou · 23/01/2021 09:57

@prettybird you are 100 per cent right. Sorry !! They are something to look forward to.

cheeseisthebest · 23/01/2021 09:57

@BIWI

Right - another mammoth post coming up Grin

@GorgeousGoldies

does anyone have a good, short-ish answer for the ‘won’t all that fat damage your heart?’

"You do realise, don't you, that there's actually no proof that fat damages your heart? Transfats are the only ones that have been proved to be damaging." I'd also google and find the name of one of the latest studies as proof. (If I have time later today I'll see if I can find one for you - it won't be hard, as there are so many!)

@ShagMeRiggins fantastic post about 'owning it'. Too many of us are apologetic about what we're doing, as if our own weight (and therefore health) isn't as important as other people's wants.

@nowlook

When all this is over, I'm going to pay someone (possibly Fred Sirieix) to come to my house and do nothing* but peel and chop celeriac.

Sorry to spoil your fantasy Grin but you can buy frozen, diced (and already peeled, obviously) celeriac from Waitrose.

@BrassicaBabe

^Dry fecking January day fecking 22. I'm fine AngryGrin. Am I glowing?! Am I sleeping like a log? Have I lost the body weight of a small child?! Have I bollox Grin

Grin. There's a place for you in heaven though Halo

@cheeseisthebest

Your menus:

Dinners chilli with lots of veg in and sour cream
Chicken tray bake with peppers, olives courgette, feta and chorizo
Yasa samla curry with tofu, tomatoes and peppers
Udon noodle stir fry with mushrooms and other veg
Ramen maybe with some steak

sound great - except for the Udon noodles, which definitely aren't allowed - and I hope you aren't planning on any in your ramen? (But I have no idea what yasa samla curry is!). Are you adding plenty of fat to all of that though?

Thanks biwi will replace noodles with something else and no none in the ramen. Yasa samla is a tofu curry, I was unsure about tofu ?
MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 23/01/2021 09:58

Morning morning!

I'm supposed to be teaching a zoom lesson this morning, but the student hasn't turned up (even though I sent a reminder earlier this morning), so I've used my free time to catch up with the thread. Very entertaining and informative it is, too!

I'm another who was surprised by the absence of Friday night cravings. I suppose I shouldn't have been, but I've never (not) experienced them before. It's so liberating!

Yesterday:

B: espresso with cream, yoghurt with cream
L: egg salad with Mayo, home-made guacamole
D: Turkey masala (sans sugar, obvs) with spinach and feta, on cauliflower rice.
3L of water

Today:

B: As yesterday
L: not sure yet, poss halloumi-based
D: steak with cream, mushroom and peppercorn sauce, with celeriac fries and FLGV.

Have a lovely Saturday everyone!

ShagMeRiggins · 23/01/2021 10:04

cheeseisthebest tofu is fine. I’m pretty sure it’s even more recommended for vegetarians doing this than quorn is because it’s minimally processed and quorum is highly processed.

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 23/01/2021 10:09

[quote Pleaseandthankyou]@GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal I am following bootcamp light. I made your scones this morning and they are lovely. I haven’t used almond flour before. The texture is unusual but they are lovely. I added Parmesan, garlic, roasted pepper flakes and mixed herbs. They are so easy to make , thank you.
Also thank you to the poster who gave the recipe for kale crisps. I would have set the oven much higher. 110 was perfect. They are just fantastic. Better than popcorn or crisps[/quote]

You're welcome - and the kale crisps recipe was me too, glad you enjoyed them as well!

cheeseisthebest · 23/01/2021 10:11

@ShagMeRiggins

cheeseisthebest tofu is fine. I’m pretty sure it’s even more recommended for vegetarians doing this than quorn is because it’s minimally processed and quorum is highly processed.
Thank you. Not a fan of quorn but really like tofu! Thanks everyone. Must try the kale crisps.
GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 23/01/2021 10:15

So the last three pounds that I put on over Christmas are not shifting!

Trying 16:8 but am bloody starving in the mornings and just obsess about food till lunchtime.

I suspect its lack of exercise. Pre-lockdown I was very fit and active. In the first lockdown I did Joe Wicks every day with the kids and went on a long walk in the afternoons. This lockdown, it's fecking freezing, I'm actually a bit depressed (not like me), and it's a real effort to make myself do anything.

I'm torn between thinking "it's only 3 pounds, you're still a healthy weight, and it'll come off when the weather improves and things start opening up and you can get out and do more" and "no! Accepting it is basically the gateway to giving up and getting fat again." Sad

ShagMeRiggins · 23/01/2021 10:23

Greeno this is very unlike you, yes, so either let yourself have a bad day (you’re allowed, we all feel shite and grumpy sometimes), or... be more Cher.

If your body is missing exercise, is there something you can do today at home to give you an endorphin rush?

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread
ShagMeRiggins · 23/01/2021 10:24

Whatever you do, don’t let yourself feel starving. Eat all the great foods. It’s fine.

Jollyholibobs · 23/01/2021 10:29

Morning all. Does anyone know if Kale crisps would work with frozen kale?

Loving all the inspiring food ideas.

B depends if I am going to run or work this morning-neither are as appealing as just chilling with a coffee but I know I will end up feeling I’ve wasted the day and work deadline looming. But icy for running is my concern.
L smoked burrata which is past its date and needs using, avacado and massive anything goes hm coleslaw
D pan fried salmon. Cauliflower cheese and flgv

Also planning to try on a delivery of smaller clothes that arrived yesterday. Maybe a trip to post office with returns later! Worth putting makeup on for.

BrassicaBabe · 23/01/2021 10:31

I'm exercising like a good'un GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal and I've still got heaps of Xmas weight gain to shift (4-7lb depending on the day) Hmm

Like then saag paneer idea from up thread. Adding that to my plan for this week.

Looking back on my app (Happy Scale) I've got a pattern of putting 2-3lb on from a Saturday that takes until about the Thursday to go again. On a Saturday I have a long run and we have a takeaway in the evening. Living in the sticks my only option is doner meat and cheese. Maybe the doner meat is carbier than I think?! It could also be that I probably finish a few of the kids left over chips Blush. So scientific experiment plan for today is to run as planned (only 10K) have the doner meat and be super meticulous about not pinching any chips. None. Then if the 2-3lb still goes on then the culprit is the doner meat. And I will cry.

Snack wise. My fingers have been hovering over the "buy now" butting for chicken skin. I know it would be delicious but buying just the skin feels kind of gross Grin

kilojules · 23/01/2021 10:35

@BIWI
Perhaps I was confused with the fact this is high fat and low carb which imho is a akin to keto.

Sorry for using those terms I didint mean to cause offence! using my mobile app it's a lot of trailing through to read some posts so I do apologise if I haven't seen all the rules but I have read the boot camp ones at the beginning of the thread and if I would have never used those terms if It was clear to me.
I didint state in my post but I've been doing IF for couple of years now so don't start eating till lunch. When i end up having breakfast I feel hungrier and overeating. Hence the bulletproof coffee. Which I make with butter and coconut oil.
The chicken soup is just chicken with bacon and veg. I added a tablespoons of butter during the day to the eggs as well (should have added that must have forgot). Total of about 90g fat for the day.
Smelling popcorn and not being able to have any is pretty hard when I was diving into it only last week so I'm sure once I'm past the stage of carb withdrawals soon then I should be fine.

I'll make sure my future posts don't confuse new starters so apologies for that again

nowlook · 23/01/2021 10:38

@GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal Sad
Sorry you're in the doldrums. Will I send Fred over once he's finished the celeriac?

It's snowing heavily here, so I can't be arsed with anything Smile

Ninkanink · 23/01/2021 10:40

@kilojoules the kale crisps might be a solution for snacking in lieu of popcorn?

Ninkanink · 23/01/2021 10:41

Oops misspelt that but you know who I mean. 🙂

kilojules · 23/01/2021 10:44

@GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal
It's rubbish when you're going through a slump! I know the weather at the mo really not helping!
I was struggling as well as I finish work tired, pitch black when I'm leaving so couldn't go for a run. I ended up joining a step bet just to get me motivated. It forced me to get up and walk even when I didint feel like it.
Hopefully you'll find your mojo soon and get moving!

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 23/01/2021 10:45

Biwi, I've been eating home made coleslaw with big chunks of feta, celery sticks and boursin, 2 packets of pork scratchings for snacks (I think I wanted the salt and fatty flavour, but my craving for these has worn off now), dinners tend to be salmon fried in butter with courgette, spinach and mushroom or belly of pork instead of the salmon.
Today's breakfast has been 2 boiled eggs with hollandaise sauce and 2 slices of corned beef. I have also had a 10 cal jelly with some Greek yogurt.
All that said, I seem to have lost 4lb since Monday, so maybe having the munchies isn't really a problem and was just a quirk of that particular day.
I still struggle with the artificial sweeteners tbh - I have a serious sweet tooth but I have managed to eradicate them from coffee and tea (along with milk) which is a big step forward for me. But I do still want the odd 10 cal jelly or piece of 85% dark chocolate. But I am nowhere near as had as I was when I was mainlining minstrels! I think I will get there but not immediately. It's really important that I don't give up so am okay with not going completely cold turkey just yet.

ZiggZagg · 23/01/2021 10:51

Good morning campers!!

I have some Kale in the fridge and will be making crisps with them later.

To anyone who needs it, I have followed BIWI and the experienced campers last bootcamp and lost 25lbs (as well as having energy I haven't had since ever and massively improving my mental health and general well-being). It can be tempting to follow other ways of eating but if you follow the rules to the letter, you will look and feel great, your skin will look amazing and you will lose weight! You will never be hangry and will eat amazing, nutritious food, what more could you want? Keep the faith and KOKO!

As a side note, stepped on the scales this morning to find I'm 1lb away from going into the 100lbs Grin something I definitely haven't seen for at least 14 years!

L today is fried eggs with leftover mushroom and spinach cream cheese sauce.
D will be steak fried in garlic butter and FLGV.

Have an amazing day everyone!

kilojules · 23/01/2021 10:52

@Ninkanink 👍🏼 thanks I haven't tried those although come across recipes. I'll give them a try. Do they taste like the crispy seaweed but without the fishy taste?

MarmaladeTeepee · 23/01/2021 10:56

Greebo sorry you're feeling down. I don't know if you've done any virtual runs before but www.virtualrunneruk.com do one where it's a monthly challenge and you can either run, walk or bike a set amount (you choose the distance 25km, 50km, 100km etc) and each month you get a mini medal which slots into a massive medal. I did it last year and it was fantastic for keeping me going as I didn't want to not get my monthly medal. I've signed up again this year and was determined to only count runs this year which due to the bad weather hasn't happened (I'll be counting walks instead) but at least it forces me to go out for some exercise rather than just staying in the house.

This is a pic of my 2020 medal.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread