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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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cheeseisthebest · 22/01/2021 21:44

Ooh Fred!

This is my rough menu plan for next week, how does it sound?

Dinners chilli with lots of veg in and sour cream
Chicken tray bake with peppers, olives courgette, feta and chorizo
Yasa samla curry with tofu, tomatoes and peppers
Udon noodle stir fry with mushrooms and other veg
Ramen maybe with some steak

Lunches veg soup, broccoli and stilton soup and cheese on side

Breakfasts, eggs, smoked salmon, ham. Plus tomatoes, mushrooms, that sort of thing.

Margaritawithlime · 22/01/2021 21:46

I can report the celeriac chips were a triumph. DH loved them more than his oven fries but I refused to share! Grin
Feeling very wonderful after this week. In control which is a nice place to be with the world bloody burning and all that.

cheeseisthebest · 22/01/2021 21:51

Although this week I havent had breakfast much.

ChristMyArse · 22/01/2021 21:51

Loving all recipe ideas - especially celeriac chips.

Don't judge my food choices today - it was what came to hand the quickest!

B - last nights left over sausage x 2 and smoked mackerel.
L couldn't eat all my breakfast so yes, you guessed it, sausage and mackerel salad.
D Greek yoghurt with cinnamon

4 ltrs water.

It's been a strange day food and mood wise. I need more sleep in my life, so on that note I bode you good night and I'll see you tomorrow!

kilojules · 22/01/2021 22:09

A bit late in the day. I'm on day 2 of the keto soup diet.

B: bulletproof coffee
L: Keto chicken soup
S: tuna Mayo, 2 boiled eggs and lettuce
D: keto chicken soup, half avocado and bacon

Seems like a lot. Why am I hangry?! Had to be unsocial and sit sulking in bedroom whilst hubby and son chomping on popcorn and watching movies. I can smell the popcorn from a floor away! Need to figure out movie snack alternatives to my fave snack ever-sweet and salted popcorn. Don't like seaweed. Pork cracklings too salty for me. Nuts? but can't at the mo.. going to bed nursing my bottle of water

cheeseisthebest · 22/01/2021 22:12

Kilojules that really doesnt sound like much food to keep, doesnt sound like a very big dinner?

cheeseisthebest · 22/01/2021 22:12

Me not keep!

nowlook · 22/01/2021 22:15

@cheeseisthebest

Ooh Fred!

This is my rough menu plan for next week, how does it sound?

Dinners chilli with lots of veg in and sour cream
Chicken tray bake with peppers, olives courgette, feta and chorizo
Yasa samla curry with tofu, tomatoes and peppers
Udon noodle stir fry with mushrooms and other veg
Ramen maybe with some steak

Lunches veg soup, broccoli and stilton soup and cheese on side

Breakfasts, eggs, smoked salmon, ham. Plus tomatoes, mushrooms, that sort of thing.

Your menu sounds so fancy! I literally poached an egg in a bowl of beef consommé tonight Grin
tea69 · 22/01/2021 22:17

I had a REALLY dodgy stomach earlier and had to rush to the toilet (very watery 🥺 sorry for TMI).

Afterwards I had some plain potato as thats all my stomach could take.

I know that's against the rules so what should I do next time?

cheeseisthebest · 22/01/2021 22:17

Haha does it!
Since March we have become much more organised with food and plan our weeks meals. One good thing!!

cheeseisthebest · 22/01/2021 22:18

Beef consomee sounds fancy to me!

nowlook · 22/01/2021 22:19

@tea69
And that is how I ended up poaching an egg in a bowl of consommé Grin

nowlook · 22/01/2021 22:20

@cheeseisthebest

Beef consomee sounds fancy to me!
I'll tell Mrs Baxter- she'll be delighted!
prettybird · 22/01/2021 22:21

kilojules - where are your FLGV? Confused Boot Camp isn't keto per se: we encourage carbs in the form of good veg Grin

Bulletproof coffee is not a nutrient rich breakfast; this Way of Eating is about eating fresh, good food (hence the FLGV Wink).

And in addition to more veg, I'd suggest you need more fat. You're supposed to eat (but only HFLC Stuff Wink) if you're hungry - but with plenty of fat, a reasonable amount of protein (which is what satiates you) and a FLGV, you shouldn't feel hangry.

ShagMeRiggins · 22/01/2021 22:24

@kilojules

A bit late in the day. I'm on day 2 of the keto soup diet.

B: bulletproof coffee
L: Keto chicken soup
S: tuna Mayo, 2 boiled eggs and lettuce
D: keto chicken soup, half avocado and bacon

Seems like a lot. Why am I hangry?! Had to be unsocial and sit sulking in bedroom whilst hubby and son chomping on popcorn and watching movies. I can smell the popcorn from a floor away! Need to figure out movie snack alternatives to my fave snack ever-sweet and salted popcorn. Don't like seaweed. Pork cracklings too salty for me. Nuts? but can't at the mo.. going to bed nursing my bottle of water

With the best wishes for you—I mean it—this isn’t the keto soup diet thread.

If you want to do that, there are other places.

You’re very welcome here—everyone is—but we do Bootcamp, Low Carb High Fat.

We don’t deprive ourselves, we eat as much as we like of fresh, real food. Lots of good fats, loads of veg, reasonable protein. The rules are simple.

I would point you toward the spreadsheet which has tabs to show the rules of Bootcamp and masses of information, but that got lost and I can’t find it.

In the meantime, welcome again. I hope you stick around and try Bootcamp rather than Neto. It’s much more pleasurable.

flossiegrippiter · 22/01/2021 22:27

I would say my body is quite insulin resistant after years of letting my sweet tooth take over, I hold most of my weight around my stomach and with my second child had GD that took a lot of insulin to get under control (although was only on my fasted readings daytime ones were always fine whatever I ate).
Should we expect to see a loss immediately or does it take the body time to switch to fat burning?

StuntNun · 22/01/2021 22:30

Tea69 if you're unwell then that has to come top priority. In the grand scheme of things, potato isn't the worse food you could have eaten. Yes it's too carby for Bootcamp at about 20% carbohydrate but bread or plain rice would have been carbier and it was more important to sort out your stomach. It's the same when people get a stomach bug. When you're recovering very often dry carby foods are the only thing you can keep down for the first day. Better to have that and get better than eat something low carb that's just going to make you feel worse or come straight back up.

StuntNun · 22/01/2021 22:31

Flossie if you were eating a standard diet before going low carb then you can expect to lose a few pounds in the first week. Some people don't lose or even gain at first but that's usually a sign that they've previously been on calorie-restricted diet or that there's an underlying hormonal condition such as PCOS, perimenopause or thyroid issues.

cheeseisthebest · 22/01/2021 22:32

@nowlook
GrinGrin

tea69 · 22/01/2021 22:34

@StuntNun thank you ❤️

Motivateinmotion · 22/01/2021 22:44

@tea69 it could be your body making the adjustment? I’ve been the same for the past week and figured it must be all the veg and additional litres of water consumed each day. I’m sticking with things and it seems to be getting a little better now (not so urgent). Hope it gets better for you too!

Today-
B- Greek yoghurt and cream
L- halloumi, lettuce, aubergine and olive tapenade
S- pork scratchings and 2 slices corned beef
D- butterfly chicken, cheese, bacon, loads of lettuce, Mayo in a low carb bun

Added a snack in today where my usual Friday after work carb binge would be and although not the best choices (processed food wise) it wasn’t chocolate cake biscuit crisp so winner overall.

4L water

Eggy18 · 22/01/2021 23:04

I am a bit confused about the not eating too much cheese. The nutritional values of the ones I have at home right now (cheddar and blue cheese) say that they have less than 0.1g of carbs per 100grams. Can anyone shed some light on this?

I love cheese! Please tell me I can have it!

prettybird · 22/01/2021 23:13

At this stage, have as much cheese as you like Smile That's the good news Grin

That bed news is that if at a later stage, you find your weight loss stalling, you might need to look at your dairy intake and see if it could be the problem, which would mean that the cheese would have to go Sad (butter is ok though) fortunately dairy doesn't stall me Wink

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 22/01/2021 23:18

I've had the proper munchies tonight. Even though I posted my day's food earlier I ended up eating celery sticks with boursin and another slice of corned beef. It's just as well we aren't counting calories because I dread to think what today's have been!

Eggy18 · 22/01/2021 23:22

Thanks @prettybird!