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Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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MarmaladeTeepee · 22/01/2021 17:21

@LostaraYil yes I found myself skimming through a lot of the science bits in the end but the basic message really struck a chord. Linking in with the diabetes chat this is what led Dr Jason Fung to write The Obesity Code. He basically says weight gain is a result of insulin resistance so the more carbs/sugar we eat, the more our bodies become overloaded with insulin and then the harder it is to lose weight. To break the cycle he recommends a combination of low carb and intermittent fasting to deplete our insulin levels and get our bodies back into fat burning mode.

Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 22/01/2021 17:35

@BIWI Thank you.
@ShagMeRiggins hello, still having fun?

For those who's weight doesn't stay down just an FYI the body will hold water in a cell and increase weight then one day a whoosh happens.
I work from home so frequent weighing is - well the scale is right there - often.

This has shown I can fluctuate 4-5lb in a day some days. Just this week I went down 3 up 7 down 3. I expect once I up my water intake it will do a whoosh.

So don't assume the weight of water filled cells is a sign of L u Ci HF er WOE is not working.

Because it's a devil of a change for the body to get the microbiome used to the new food sources.

Justcallmecaptainobvious · 22/01/2021 18:12

@ShagMeRiggins those are great, thank you. Sometimes I think the only thing which gets judged more than being overweight is doing something about it! (Or if not judged then sabotaged) but you’re absolutely right, no reason not to be loud and proud!

VeryLittleOwl · 22/01/2021 18:26

@Margaritawithlime

Has anyone got any absolutely fool proof methods for celeriac chips??
Hack the celeriac into chips, preferably without losing any fingers. Spread out in an oven tray, drizzle with olive oil. Sprinkle salt and paprika over them, give them a good shake to coat. Bung in the oven at 190C fan for 40 minutes, taking out at the halfway point to give them a good shake or just flip each one over onto the other side. I never bother blanching and they always come out fine.

I've got PMT and have been wanting to dive into DH's chocolate drawer today. I've been eating gherkins as a distraction which seems to have worked. I'm sorry, I can't remember which poster it was at the start of the week who had a carb shock with their gherkins, but Tesco's Whole Pickled Gherkins are 2.5g of carbs per 100g and three of them did a pretty good job of killing the sugar craving.

GorgeousGoldies · 22/01/2021 19:09

Talking about answering LC questions... does anyone have a good, short-ish answer for the ‘won’t all that fat damage your heart?’

I (sort of) understand the science but struggle to put it succinctly, when under pressure.

ShagMeRiggins · 22/01/2021 19:18

[quote Justcallmecaptainobvious]@ShagMeRiggins those are great, thank you. Sometimes I think the only thing which gets judged more than being overweight is doing something about it! (Or if not judged then sabotaged) but you’re absolutely right, no reason not to be loud and proud![/quote]
It reminds me of those who snark about fat people running and how “bad” they look.

I don’t run, but if I did I’d be secure in the knowledge that I’m lapping everyone sitting on a sofa at home.

Have confidence and commitment, everyone. I’m 50+ lbs down since 2017 and that might not be fast enough for some of you, but fuck me I feel and look great. xoxo

ShagMeRiggins · 22/01/2021 19:22

@GorgeousGoldies

Talking about answering LC questions... does anyone have a good, short-ish answer for the ‘won’t all that fat damage your heart?’

I (sort of) understand the science but struggle to put it succinctly, when under pressure.

“No, not if I’m eating healthy fats (real butter, olive oil, etc) while also eating health carbs (fuck load of green veg, not pasta, rice, bread, etc). There is much scientific evidence about this. Would you like me to send you some links?”
ShagMeRiggins · 22/01/2021 19:24

You could also add, “no, not when I don’t eat sugar or processed carbohydrates that contain sugar. Sugar is the devil, green veg is salvation.”

But that might be too much for some to process. GrinGrinGrin

nowlook · 22/01/2021 19:27

When all this is over, I'm going to pay someone (possibly Fred Sirieix) to come to my house and do nothing* but peel and chop celeriac.

*subject to variation if Fred is the successful candidate

Doilooklikeatourist · 22/01/2021 19:34

Had a lovely breakfast of Tesco Greek style yoghurt , with double cream on top and a drop of vanilla extract
Lunch was chicken and avocado salad ( should have had soup , as it is so cold here )
Dinner . Pulled pork low carb style with my first attempt at shoogled sprouts ( only because we need to go shopping and dont have much any veg left ) and I was hoping to find some spinach , found some vintage frozen peas and some sprouts BB Jan 2020 .. just in time then 👍
The others had dauphinois potatoes ( I am so making myself some celariac dauphinois for Sunday ) and red pepper , pea and sweetcorn stir fry

Doilooklikeatourist · 22/01/2021 19:37

@GorgeousGoldies

Talking about answering LC questions... does anyone have a good, short-ish answer for the ‘won’t all that fat damage your heart?’

I (sort of) understand the science but struggle to put it succinctly, when under pressure.

I'll take that risk , thanks But , I am a bit short of patience at the best of times , and this is not the best of times 😷😫#lockdown
cheeseisthebest · 22/01/2021 20:00

Sorry I've had a really busy day and also so sorry I was only joking about the vegan hate! Love a steak me!!

Bumbledee · 22/01/2021 20:02

Hi everyone, I am a bit late to the party today, but I've RTFT finally. I tried made a pie with sausage meat and lots of veggies topped with mashed swede and cheese and its delicious! :D Thanks to all the inspiration.

Reading about the celeriac chips made me think about the Haloumi in the fridge. How do I make Haloumi chips? fry it or bake it? also, won't it release a lot of water?

Today's meals were:

B: Seriously low carb bread with cream cheese and avocado
L: a large salad with leftover lamb from yesterday
D: the swede and sausage meat pie with asparagus and salad drenched in olive oil.

BrassicaBabe · 22/01/2021 20:18

Dry fecking January day fecking 22. I'm fine AngryGrin. Am I glowing?! Am I sleeping like a log? Have I lost the body weight of a small child?! Have I bollox Grin

Anyway:
Lunch: boiled eggs mustard Mayo and coleslaw
Dinner: chicken fajita (onion and half hello pepper) sour cream and guacamole
Extra brownie points for no pepperami snacking today Grin

itsmeagainagain · 22/01/2021 20:20

@nowlook

When all this is over, I'm going to pay someone (possibly Fred Sirieix) to come to my house and do nothing* but peel and chop celeriac.

*subject to variation if Fred is the successful candidate

@nowlook that just really cracked me up 😂
nowlook · 22/01/2021 20:23

@Bumbledee Oooh, I don't know, but that's got me thinking...I'm not missing bread, but I am missing all things breaded (TOTM). So, I'm going to order some of the low carb bread and see if I can make breaded mushrooms, brie wedges, chicken Kiev scampi etc. Might not work, but I'll give it a bash!

Incidentally, I think there's some low carb halloumi fries from Aldi that are recommended. Might be worth a look at the ingredients.

nowlook · 22/01/2021 20:28

@itsmeagainagain I think about Fred a lot in lockdown Blush

@Bumbledee the halloumi fries were recommended by stunt nun. Even though they're breaded, they're quite low carb. I think you'll have to bread!

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread
itsmeagainagain · 22/01/2021 20:30

@nowlook I was imagining a naked Fred then re read your post and you hadn’t said that.. which says more about me 😳

PastramiNoRye · 22/01/2021 20:43

Quite proud of myself today...really disjointed day of home schooling/broken oven/wfh and general grumpiness! Was dying to jump face first into a plate of carbs...

However, I have myself a metaphorical slap in the face and resisted:

B: creamy coffee and Greek yoghurt
L: rollitos, cold chicken thighs with cucumber and celery
D: Indian takeaway: chicken shashlik with a side of cauliflower and paneer.

I could have had a bit more water but there's still time. Just relieved I managed to resist the call of bread and ended up not having that feeling of failing myself!

Bumbledee · 22/01/2021 20:43

@nowlook thanks. Bread crumbs out of low carb bread is a great idea. If it works.

BrassicaBabe · 22/01/2021 20:48

I wondered if low carb bread and butter pudding would work 🤔 (After BC when artificial sweetener might be allowed)

GorgeousGoldies · 22/01/2021 20:52

@ShagMeRiggins

You could also add, “no, not when I don’t eat sugar or processed carbohydrates that contain sugar. Sugar is the devil, green veg is salvation.”

But that might be too much for some to process. GrinGrinGrin

That made me smile, thank you ShagMeRiggins. I shall put your fantastic answers to good use.
nowlook · 22/01/2021 20:55

Me too. Love bread and butter pud.

The only alternative I can find is ground pork rinds for breadcrumbs. I can't quite fancy that with cheese Confused

Have just ordered these to try as an alternative to crackers (again, with cheese). Bloody love cheese.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread
GorgeousGoldies · 22/01/2021 20:58

Doilooklikeatourist I can be quite blunt (not always intentionally) at the best of times... and these are not the best of times.. so that answer will do nicely too! Thanks 😊

ShagMeRiggins · 22/01/2021 21:11

Dry fecking January day fecking 22. I'm fine angrygrin. Am I glowing?! Am I sleeping like a log? Have I lost the body weight of a small child?! Have I bollox grin

Proper snort and laugh from me, BrassicaBabe. Namaste Grin