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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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Frty · 18/01/2021 08:43

Good Morning! Drinking mint tea instead of coffee & milk. So far, so good.

Egg muffins recipe for me too, please!

Just realised I can make savoury souffle. That's dinner sorted, then (with a side of salad).

Good day everyone!

Ratherchillyinhere · 18/01/2021 08:43

WayOrAnother2

I'll let you know how it goes!

Frty · 18/01/2021 08:43

Oh and thank you BIWI for the new thread.

BrassicaBabe · 18/01/2021 08:50

Whoop @CowGurl that's a fab achievement!

BrassicaBabe · 18/01/2021 08:52

2lbs on for me this weekend. The only thing I can think is that the doner kebab (no bread) is still very carby?

Justcallmecaptainobvious · 18/01/2021 08:52

Well, stepping on the scales this morning was sobering. I knew I’d buried my head in the sand recently but hadn’t realised quite how deep I was... Still, onwards and downwards! Went to the supermarket at 7am, lovely and quiet, and got a big trolley full of mostly veg, some meat, some dairy.

@CowGurl congratulations! That’s a brilliant milestone!

WitchWand · 18/01/2021 08:53

Hi everyone !
And a big thanks to BIWI for that lovely intro and starting us all off on the new 2021 Bootcamp.
Thanks also to AthelstaneTheUnready and StuntNun for your input too. Lovely to read the posts from previous bootcampers returning after the hols. And welcome to all new bootcampers !!Smile

This is my second bootcamp. As I was so delighted with the results of the first one before Christmas, I'm back for more.

I haven't taken my weight yet this morning so I'll check in again once that's done.

Just to say to all newcomers, that drinking water and different types of teas ( with either no milk or very little of it ) made a huge difference to me last bootcamp. Also, to help the electrolyte levels, I followed BIWI's advice on having marmite or bovril in hot water. And that was lovely as a change from teas too.

prettybird · 18/01/2021 08:57

Brassicababe - you did a long run yesterday. Your muscles might be retaining a lot of water in protest Wink. Check again tomorrow Smile

Ninkanink · 18/01/2021 09:01

Morning everyone!

@CowGurl fantastic achievement! 🎉💐👍

I can’t weigh in as my scales battery has died. I’ll go by my weight the last time I weighed a couple of weeks ago - 71.9kg (158.512 lbs). I can’t ever make the spreadsheet work for me so I’ll just keep track of loss myself in comments.

Good luck everyone!

PineappleSunglasses · 18/01/2021 09:03

Morning everyone, lost 7lbs since last week which I am delighted with! I'll try and not to lurk too much this week but I have been soaking in all the knowledge from previous bootcampers!

Also thank you to those of you for clarifying the beans/pulses/peas situation or things would have gone downhill for me from tomorrow Grin

ouchmyfeet · 18/01/2021 09:03

Morning all, I'm new to boot camp so thanks for all the motivational pep talks, some great losses from easing in! I've just weighed in at my heaviest ever so have logged it and now the only way is down Confused

Feeling motivated and I've had my eggs for breakfast. I couldn't get rehydration salts in my online shop but I have a pot of vegetable boullion powder so will have a mug of that at some point today. Honestly I have no idea how I'm going to consume the recommended amount of water (I am over 300lbs) so I'll do my best today and accept thy I probably need to work my way up to the recommended amount

Good luck all Wink

Rshard · 18/01/2021 09:04

Big thanks to BIWI, athlestane and stuntnun for all the organisation, guidance and science.

So ready for it!

Midlifemission · 18/01/2021 09:08

Morning all I have lost 1lb this week - that will do nicely ! This is bootcamp 2 for me so I will revisit the rules and see if that gets me any bigger losses but am pretty happy with slow and steady.

BrassicaBabe · 18/01/2021 09:10

I'm going to cling on to that pretty. I live in the sticks and kebab is about my only takeaway option SadSad

PastramiNoRye · 18/01/2021 09:18

Congratulations @CowGurl Great achievement!!

missboots · 18/01/2021 09:20

Slightly terrified about what someone said up thread about going only very slightly off plan over Christmas and putting on 6lb despite only having a couple of roast potatoes and a bit of dark chocolate!

Quick question about not having nuts/seeds for these couple of weeks - does that include chia seeds and flax seeds?

BIWI · 18/01/2021 09:21

@Bestbees if you'e having a curry, the best dishes to go for are the dry ones - so anything tikka (not tikka massala) or tandoori. One of my favourites is chicken shashlik, which is essentially a large chicken kebab, skewered with onion, tomato and pepper. For a side dish I'd order a cauliflower bhaji or a mushroom bjahi (curries, not battered and deep fried!). And obviously swerve the poppadoms, rice and naan bread ...

@PastramiNoRye I see @prettybird has already helped on that one! 16g per 100g is a lot - but I'd say that if you kept the rest of the day's dishes really low carb (or even no carb - e.g. boiled eggs for breakfast, ham and cheese for lunch etc) then you could get away with that. Bear in mind that the neeps will also have carbs though! ignores mention of wine

@OneFootintheRave

I'm looking forward to spring and getting into a bikini for the first time in a long while

Me too! Although I suspect we won't be going anywhere that would require a bikini for a very long time Sad

But you've made a really good post here - setting out a specific objective. To coin business jargon (sorry, I promise I won't do it again), it's something SMART - i.e. Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Realistic, and Timely. I know that many of us will have jumped onto the scales this morning and might be feeling overwhelmed at the amount we want to lose, and that in itself can become an impediment. Far better to have a goal - even if it's an interim one - which is more easily achievable.

@SummerBody1 - sorry you've been having a hard time. Being outside for your run should help you with the SAD though - and are you also taking a vitamin D supplement? I think that can help, as well it also being recommended to help boost our immunity from Covid.

Thank you for delurking @Onelittlepiglet! Your menus sound great. Flowers

@Lyrata

some sort of take-away as I have my friends staying again due to the flood. They’ve suggested Wahaca but there is nothing LC on that menu at all. I’m thinking of asking we do Nandos instead

Take charge and say you're having Nandos! This is a classic example of a situation where we can go off piste because we don't put our own needs first. Just tell them you're low carbing and so you there isn't anything for you on the Wahaca menu. If they're your friends (for whom you're already doing a massive favour, don't forget!) then surely they'd want to support you?

@CowGurl

as of today I am NO LONGER OBESE!!!!

That's fantastic to hear! Really well done Flowers

@Justcallmecaptainobvious put that all behind you now - the only way is down from here!

@BrassicaBabe - I think @prettybird is right. It's probably water retention from all that exercise/running. Give it a couple of days and then weigh again.

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Cactusowl · 18/01/2021 09:25

I’ve been easing myself in too gently as I’ve been having soft fruit and cream and too many snacks. I’ve only lost 3.6lbs (I have about 100lbs to lose), time to get stricter!

ListenLinda · 18/01/2021 09:25

Checking in to catch up later.
Woken up with what I hope is a stinking cold and i’m off back to bed for a few hours.
Let’s do this :)

ChristMyArse · 18/01/2021 09:25

Morning everyone!

Thanks to @BIWI @StuntNun @AthelstaneTheUnready for all the help and guidance much appreciated.

I started on the 1st and start boot camp today half a stone down. Not looking forward to not loosing or maybe gaining over the next couple of weeks as this will be week 3 for me, but as I know it's coming at least mentally I'm prepared!

Let's go - and kick ass!!

BIWI · 18/01/2021 09:27

@missboots

Slightly terrified about what someone said up thread about going only very slightly off plan over Christmas and putting on 6lb despite only having a couple of roast potatoes and a bit of dark chocolate!

Quick question about not having nuts/seeds for these couple of weeks - does that include chia seeds and flax seeds?

The thing is, @missboots, that the 6lb gain won't all be fat though. When you eat a lot of carbs again, the first thing that happens is that you re-fill your glycogen stores. Once you use that energy up then it will go again. So the key thing is to keep yourself active, and really focus on being strictly low carb for a few days afterwards.

Chia seeds are not OK as they are too high in carbs at 8.6g per 100g; flax seeds are 3g per 100g, so they're not too bad, but I'd go easy on those. What were you planning on using them both for though?

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DulcetMoans · 18/01/2021 09:27

Checking in but back later to catch up! One pint of water down 👍

pinkpinkeverywhere · 18/01/2021 09:28

Morning, just starting today, first ever bootcamp and I'm pescatarian so trying to pull together a list of meals that will suit but have been out and bought a fridge full of low carb food so shouldn't be hungry.
First questions:

  • am I ok with tea and coffee if I have no milk or sugar/sweetner in it?
  • are there any cordials I can drink?
  • should I try to avoid cheese or should I see how it effects me (or should I avoid for the first 2 weeks?)

Thank you for any answers.

B - Scrambled eggs, mushrooms, smoked salmon
L - Tuna mayo in little gem leaves and cucumber
D - Salmon fillet, spinach in garlic butter, broccoli with chilli flakes

BIWI · 18/01/2021 09:30

@ouchmyfeet

Honestly I have no idea how I'm going to consume the recommended amount of water (I am over 300lbs) so I'll do my best today and accept thy I probably need to work my way up to the recommended amount

You will be able to do this - it does get easier! Just make sure you're drinking throughout the day rather than suddenly realising you have to drink 2 litres in one go.

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NotwatchingSpooks · 18/01/2021 09:36

Morning all and thanks to BIWI, Athlestone and StuntNun for your hard work in setting this up and managing it.

To anyone new, welcome, take photos and measurements.

cowgirl that’s fab

Today

B Greek yogurt and teaspoon double cream
L leek and courgette soup with chorizo and Parmesan crispy topping
D leftover roast lamb with flgv

2 coffees, 1 decaf coffee, teapig teas and a f**k load of water

After our easing in week I’m back to where I was at the end of last boot camp, aiming for a BMI of 22 to 23