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Low-carb bootcamp

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Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 18/01/2021 10:23

@Margaritawithlime

Eugh. Not a great start to week one here. Smallest cocktail didn’t sleep at ALL I was up with them from 2-4:30 am proper zonked and now homeschool. Hoorah. Still I have a plan and I shall stick with it. Lots of coffee today B: smoked salmon and scrambled eggs L: two sausages and some lovely roasted Savoy cabbage D: fish pie from the fish thread. Hopefully enough to see me into bed tonight.
Ugh, I remember that. Thanks for you
AthelstaneTheUnready · 18/01/2021 10:27
Grin

No problem, Miles, I'm just generally making the assumption that people don't want their actual names on there Grin

It's perfectly safe to add your weight to the weight column, to add veg, to use the counter, to type "I could kill for a doughnut ' all over the recipe pages... none of that will tag you. Just don't add a 'comment' to a cell!

AthelstaneTheUnready · 18/01/2021 10:31

These (see picture). These are bad.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread
BIWI · 18/01/2021 10:32

MONITORING OUR PROGRESS

Given that these chat threads always start with a link to the spreadsheet, it's obvious that weighing is a key way to monitor how much we've lost. However, there are lots of different ways we can do this.

Daily weighing

Knowing that you have to get on the scales every day (first thing in the morning, naked and after you've been to the loo) can really help to keep you focused. Keep a note of your weight each day - some people use different apps, I have an excel spreadsheet, which also charts my progress on a graph.

However ...

It is quite natural for body weight to fluctuate on a daily basis, so you need to be prepared for this. Even if you've been following the rules to the letter, there will be days when you won't lose (you can't expect to lose every day!) and sometimes it will go up for no apparent reason. This can be off-putting and lead to a 'fuckit' response, whereby you go and jump into the biscuit tin!

If you think this will be you/your response, then don't weigh daily. Instead, go for weekly weighing. Monday to coincide with the spreadsheet is good - but it's entirely up to you which day you choose. Just enter that weight on the Monday chat thread spreadsheet.

Recording your weight

If you're a daily weigher, there are different ways to approach this:

  1. Record the weight you have reached on Monday morning, on the spreadsheet
  2. Take an average of your daily weight and record the average on the spreadsheet
  3. Take the lowest weight you've achieved in the week and record that on the spreadsheet

There's no right way - just up to you to choose a way that feels best for you

Weight loss is not linear!

Unfortunately even when you're following all the rules, there will be times when nothing seems to be happening, and the scales appear to be stuck. This is quite normal! However, just because the scales aren't moving, it doesn't mean that you aren't losing fat. Therefore, it's a good idea to also include other ways of monitoring your progress.

  1. Take measurements - waist, hips, thighs and upper arms. Repeat these each week, as you do with weighing
  1. Take photos - as you will have seen from @VeryLittleOwl's photos, even half a pound lost can make a big difference - look at the change from weeks 3 to 4 in her photos. (Remembering also that these weeks are the ones where weight loss often slows/stops altogether).
  1. Find an item of clothing or two that's currently just a bit too small. The jeans that you can't do up, or a blouse that gapes at the front when you do the buttons up. (Don't choose something many sizes smaller than you are, but something that is just not comfortable quite yet). Then try these on each week.
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MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 18/01/2021 10:32

😅 Noted Grin

Ratherchillyinhere · 18/01/2021 10:33

That's good to know! Thanks for the heads up!

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 18/01/2021 10:37

Good morning all. For some reason I can't open the spreadsheet. Weighing in at 156 lbs today. Will try to add later

Bumbledee · 18/01/2021 10:52

Morning everyone, my scales aren’t behaving very well it stuck on 41.4 kilos! Hmm I was last that weight when I was 16! I am translating it to being 61 kilos and not the 60 that I was beginning of last week! Sad should I stop eating dairy? I can’t believe I gained more weight!

B:hard boiled egg and smoked salmon
L: Tandoori chicken (homemade) and an oily green salad
D: we are going to try a bare naked noodles stir fry with vegetables and shredded chicken. Fingers crossed that we like it or can tolerate it.

@Bestbees @Turnedouttoes and anyone planning to order an Indian takeaway these are the safe keywords for foods you can order: Tikka, kebab, shaslik. However, Shami kebab and Sheekh kebab will have chickpeas in it. kadhai or masala if you’re going for curries these dishes are unlikely to have been thickened with cornflour.

Don’t go for: Bhajis generally have a coating of gram flour or corn flour or plain white flour. Any butter masalas and creamy curries these are definitely thickened with flour because takeaways wouldn’t be cheap if they actually cooked with lots of cream, butter and ghee to thicken their sauces. Rogan Josh’s could go either way. Saag paneer or chicken is great but check the ingredients if it’s creamed it might not be just cream. Also paneer is 3.6 grams carbs per 100 grams so just eating a takeaway portion of saag paneer might be too many carbs. Aubergine (Baingan Bharta) is the least carb option at an Indian takeaway in my opinion. I hope this helps.

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 18/01/2021 10:55

Hi Bootcampers, I'm very excited to get going with this. But .... for some reason I've been denied access to the Spreadsheet of Fab. I've always been able to get on before. I'm doing it from my computer in the normal way. I've clicked 'Request Access' so hopefully someone techy whizzy will be able to grant the requisite permission.

Is it just me? I'm sure I'm not doing anything different Confused

Thanks in advance for any help.

BIWI · 18/01/2021 11:04

@MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously and @NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace have you read @AthelstaneTheUnready's post about the spreadsheet, and tried the new link?

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plumstone · 18/01/2021 11:05

Good Morning!!

so a 2lbs loss for me taking me to 180lbs - this is not much but shows a 12 as the starting number - this is a relief as being 13st was not making me a happy plum!!!

Finished off the wine last night - had had none since last Friday, but a bottled had been opened to make mussels in cream and wine sauce, so I feel the need to finished!!

Today:
B - Greek Yogurt and double cream
L - Buttery leek omelette with green pepper and spinach
D - Turkey (its never ending) with roasted sprouts and broccoli. possibly a creamy cheese sauce
C - one and 4 litres water

Oneborneverydecade · 18/01/2021 11:15

Congratulations! @CowGurl

I'm 2.5lb down from my end of Bootcamp weight and 2.5lb off a 4st loss. About another st to go.

I'd misremembered how much water I need to consume and I've been trying to drink 4.5ltrs when actually I only need 3. Oops.

Is the leek and bacon soup on the recipe thread please?

Good luck everyone!

LazydaysofSummer · 18/01/2021 11:17

I've weighed in first thing and focusing on drinking enough water as I've not been drinking nearly enough between boot camps.
I also need to stop the carb creep, which was actually worse during easing in week than in was over Christmas! But being in full on bootcamp should get me mentally back in the correct mindset.
On a positive note I still lost a little last week, despite the indiscretions so it's I'm optimistic about maintenance.
Thanks for all the efforts put into running this, you are literally changing peoples lives!

tanoshii · 18/01/2021 11:24

Morning All!
@midlifemission - those egg muffins look tasty. Will definitely be googling a recipe later. Have a massive egg glut ATM (we have 8 chickens) so always looking out for ways to use eggs.
@VeryLittleOwl - relate to your post about getting back into the 9s. I'm desperate to be 9 stone something and hoping to get there at the end of 12 weeks.

Sorry for being a bit dim here, but want to ask whether drinks of tea/coffee count towards our recommended water intake?

Also, is miso shiru allowed in the first two weeks? I have one sachet of itsu miso easy every afternoon, (3g of carbs, inc. 1.5g of sugars per sachet).

Finally, I know pulses are not allowed, but what about green beans, runner beans or edamame?

Thanks!

DataColour · 18/01/2021 11:31

Thanks Biwi for clarifying the almond milk carb count. I think mine is 0g carb....it's alpro unsweetened.
I've eased in s bit this weekend, but my period started on yesterday morning, so it was hard not to give into eating something sweet. I had raspberries with Greek yoghurt and 99pc dark chocolate. This morning woke up with such a sugar craving that I had some diet ginger beer. The sugar cravings normally disappear after a couple of days, so should be able resist from now on!

Yesterday had:
B: 2 boiled eggs with butter and mushrooms
L: Brussel sprout soup with chorizo. Greg yogurt with raspberries and cream.
Snack: boiled egg with mayo
Dinner: paneer butter masal (homemade), buttery garlicy green beans, cauli rice and roasted broccoli.
Snack: Greek yogurt with raspberries, 99pc chocolate a square, cheese

This morning: eggs, bacon and buttery spinach

felippertyfeck · 18/01/2021 11:31

Morning everyone! and thank you @BIWI @AthelstaneTheUnready. I faced the scales this morning and I'm 5 pounds up for over Christmas ( and partly due to my lack of willpower with my daughter's lockdown obsession with baking cakes, the whole house smells of cake) so ready to start back in earnest. Nicelegsshameabouttheface I can't get access either. I will try and work it out. Need the recipe for those egg muffins as well they look lovely! @BIWI Is the seriously low carb bread ok or after first two weeks? Or not at all ... or is it ok? Fingers crossed! :)

NigellaAwesome · 18/01/2021 11:33

Morning all, just checking in.

BIWI · 18/01/2021 11:35

@tanoshii

According to Sainsbury's website:

Fine beans are 3.1g per 100g
Runner beans are 1.8g
Edamame beans are 2g

So I'd say they were all OK.

Re the soup - I'm a bit on the fence on that one! It's low carb, but it's also quite processed. And you should really be getting your carbs from veg. It's not the worst thing you could be having though.

Tea/coffee do count but you really should be getting most of it from plain water.

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Pandoraslastchance · 18/01/2021 11:37

Morning all! The weekend was mad and the kids were a nightmare so I didn't get chance to post.

Meals remained healthy
Saturday Lunch:Lamb chops and spring greens
Tea:Burgers, chicken wings and salad with chilli oil dressing. (I know burgers aren't great but we are emptying the freezer atm)

Sunday:
Lunch:Sausages(bad yes, I know)
Tea: Prawns and salmon with cabbage with a double cream sauce with cheese, cheese and a bit more cheese.

But I've lost 3lb this week. I've got to up my water intake this week. According to the table ive got to drink 9 or 10 pints a day Shock I've been managing 7 ish so far.

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 18/01/2021 11:40

Ah sorry @BIWI

That'll teach me to RTFT Blush All good now.

Thank you Smile

BIWI · 18/01/2021 11:40

@felippertyfeck have you seen the new link that AthelstaneTheUnready posted up thread?

The Seriously Low Carb bread is very low carb, and from everything I've read on MN where people have tried it, it doesn't seem to impact weight loss, so I'd say go for it. Just keep an eye on your weight - and obviously be aware that it's carbs that aren't coming from veg! - and see what happens.

TBH it's so expensive you probably wouldn't want to be eating it every day anyway.

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BIWI · 18/01/2021 11:42

@Pandoraslastchance

Morning all! The weekend was mad and the kids were a nightmare so I didn't get chance to post.

Meals remained healthy
Saturday Lunch:Lamb chops and spring greens
Tea:Burgers, chicken wings and salad with chilli oil dressing. (I know burgers aren't great but we are emptying the freezer atm)

Sunday:
Lunch:Sausages(bad yes, I know)
Tea: Prawns and salmon with cabbage with a double cream sauce with cheese, cheese and a bit more cheese.

But I've lost 3lb this week. I've got to up my water intake this week. According to the table ive got to drink 9 or 10 pints a day Shock I've been managing 7 ish so far.

Home-made burgers are very easy though - and will definitely have fewer carbs/ingredients.

High fat content mince, mushed up with plenty of salt and pepper. Form into patties. Fry. That's it! You could include some finely chopped shallots and herbs if you wanted.

The sausages are OK occasionally - especially if they're high meat content and low carb.

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felippertyfeck · 18/01/2021 11:43

Blush my reading skills need some work as well by the looks of it! I'll look for the link :)

DataColour · 18/01/2021 11:47

Morrisons frozen edamame beans contains 14.7g per 100g. I just checked because I had some in the freezer and was thinking about it for lunch. These are without shelled beans though, perhaps that's why the higher carb count.

felippertyfeck · 18/01/2021 11:47

Thank you BIWI I've got a store in the freezer for bread emergencies! I just need something to go with the egg, it's a texture thing, a lifesaver to keep me on the straight and narrow!