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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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DataColour · 18/01/2021 11:48

Shelled beans

MrsMcBoatface · 18/01/2021 11:53

Thank you again to BIWI and AthelstaneTheUnready (and apols for weird autocorrect to your name on my previous post Blush ). Lots of great information here. Sitting down with a glass of water to do meal planning!

tanoshii · 18/01/2021 11:57

@BIWI Thanks for the clarification. I'll stay off the miso shiru for at least the next two weeks, and then use up what I have and try not to buy any more. Only started having it recently to help ease the pain of homeschooling, but it could easily become a habit!

Started drinking two cups of coffee every morning too 🙄 I was previously doing intermittent fasting and easily not having anything but water until 2pm, but finding it harder with the kids around..

Definitely tougher to lose weight now with menopause approaching! Love full fat Greek yoghurt but found I don't lose weight if I even have small portions of it every day..

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 18/01/2021 11:59

Thanks so much BIWI & Athelstane. Thanks (And one more sorry for breaking the spreadsheet. Blush).

Also, thanks to everyone posting meal ideas and experience with this WOE.

I tried a smidge of salt in my creamy coffee this morning, & blow me down if it doesn't work! Amazing.

B: Creamy coffee, yoghurt with a spoonful of sour cream.
L: hard boiled eggs, Mayo, salad.
D: Roasted salmon with roasted Mediterranean veg.

Had 1l of water already, plus jumped around with Joe Wicks.

I love the beginning of diets: I'm so optimistic!

pinkpinkeverywhere · 18/01/2021 12:02

@DataColour please could you share the paneer butter masal recipe?

52andblue · 18/01/2021 12:03

Morning all.
Weighed in at 12st9lbs this morning.
Hoping to lose lots by the end.

B: handful kale, wilted in butter. 2 eggs fried in remains of kale butter
L: salmon and green salad
D: fatty pork chop with FTGV (f** tonne green veg - is that right?)
snack if I need to matchbox sized piece of cheddar.
coffee, as much water as I can stand

NotwatchingSpooks · 18/01/2021 12:03

ouchmyfeet And new joiners, re water I found it helped me to download an app to track the water, I use Waterlogged

Also it’s worth thinking about how you are going to get your water in you throughout the day and also if your out and about , if there are toilet facilities 😀

Thought it might be worth sharing how I tackle my target

First measure your mug and glass or find a water bottle

Morning
Mug of hot water 350ml
2 coffees 700ml
Soda stream bottle of water 840ml

I aim to have this all before lunch = 1890ml

Afternoon
Soda stream bottle of water 840ml
Teapigs tea 350
Hot water refil on teabag 350
I have this during afternoon before dinner = 1540

Evening
Glass of water with dinner 350ml
Teapigs 350
Hot water on teapig 350
This is another 1050ml

So total by breaking it down is 4480ml. As BIWI says it is really important and personally I find that if I don’t drink enough I get the munchies .
It may be worth thinking through your day and getting a rough plan, I have to be careful I don’t drink too much before I walk the dog 😂

ChristMyArse · 18/01/2021 12:04

@BrassicaBabe

You asked about teapigs..

Sweet ginger Smells funny at first but is ok. It's not very gingery nor sweet but is drinkable.
Lemon and ginger Better than sweet ginger and is reasonably nice.
Cinnamon and apple Smells much better than it tastes - but the idea of it comes through. I find it quite watery though.
Peppermint and chocolate Reasonably good! I am drinking quite a lot of these. More peppermint than choc which is sad 😁
Rhubarb and ginger the sweetest one I have found.
Spiced winter red tea smells like Christmas - should have been ace but was awful
Popcorn actually tastes of popcorn but the smell when you first pour water on doesn't indicate that it will!
Rooibos salted caramel one I love SC and this is awful. Would not recommend.
Chocolate flake not gone there yet so shall report back!

NotwatchingSpooks · 18/01/2021 12:05

Obviously you don’t have to put hot water on a teabag, you can have a new one each time, I just prefer it 😂

AthelstaneTheUnready · 18/01/2021 12:14

For water, I find the visual reminder helps. I have a lovely glass 1L water bottle on the table with me, which starts full every day.

Once I have emptied that, then refilled it, then as long as I empty it again by the end of the day I'm home free, since I also have 3 large mugs of herbal tea, and 2 large mugs of coffee as well during the day.

I find that easier than counting every glass.

GorgeousGoldies · 18/01/2021 12:15

Good morning! It’s good to be back.

All this talk of Indian takeaways has made me have an early lunch (always do 16:8) of leftover tandoori king prawns with mushroom bhaji. Very nice it was too!

More leftovers for dinner, this time from yesterday’s roast chicken. I always feel so satisfied when I use everything up.

I’m not weighing until Friday as I had such a bad weekend, I just can’t face it.

Thanks BIWI, AthelstaneTheUnready and StuntNun for all the brilliant advice.

Really enjoyed reading from the runners too (Brassica and Summery?) - I love running and aspire to doing those distances on a regular basis. Interesting that you manage fine on a low carb diet - I always feel a bit weedy on BC 😂

Oneborneverydecade · 18/01/2021 12:16

I've started putting small black squidgy hairbands on my water bottle, one for every 500ml (the size of my bottle). I take one off and store it in my bra for each time I refill

Pandoraslastchance · 18/01/2021 12:19

I've got an app called Bewet and it has an alert tone that is water being poured. Grin

BrassicaBabe · 18/01/2021 12:27

Haha @ChristMyArse none of those tea reviews sound like a ringing endorsement Grin Thanks for doing the update. The twinnings lemon and ginger one I had last night was too weak to bother with. Think I'll stick with the peppermint.

One of my resolutions for BC is to have a proper lunch and not reply on snacks of pepperami and cheese. So...
L: 2 bacon, 2 eggs, guacamole and sour cream.

BrassicaBabe · 18/01/2021 12:32

Oh and no sodding running until at least Wednesday Grin

52andblue · 18/01/2021 12:39

Waves @ChristMyArse

the water app I have is called DrinkWaterReminder (I think)
it's fab as it makes a huge sploshing sound every time you need to drink water. it makes people jump (i'm childish about that, I've discovered). Now i just need to make the connection to actually drink instead of just giggling to myself Grin

AthelstaneTheUnready · 18/01/2021 13:07

B: cold baked salmon, coffee
L: sprouts with loads of butter, salt, pepper
D: roast chicken bits in massive lettuce, mayo, garlic salad

Does anyone have interesting cooking stories about using frozen broccoli? I'm out of fresh veg after today, but worry the frozen stuff might leak too much water in recipes. How do people treat it?

Ratherchillyinhere · 18/01/2021 13:08

Update to my mackeral salad lunch.

Tinned mackeral, left over bacon from breakfast crumbled up, lettuce, avocado, tomatoes, cucumber, onion, extra virgin olive oil and ACV.

Really nice.

MysweetAudrina · 18/01/2021 13:08

Breakfast: streaky bacon, fried egg, mushrooms and tomato
Lunch: ham and cheese rolittos
Dinner: salmon, prawns, broccoli, celeriac, peppers and onions.

BIWI · 18/01/2021 13:11

If anyone else is interested, here's the website for Seriously Low Carb bread

2 slices of the bread is 2g carbs and one of the rolls is 2.7g carbs.

It's expensive, and it's pretty processed - but it's the nearest thing I've found to real bread. I honestly wouldn't know it wasn't conventional bread. So it can be a bit of a lifesaver!

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ShagMeRiggins · 18/01/2021 13:13

@AthelstaneTheUnready I sent a request for permission on the old spreadsheet. Ignore it, I got into the new one just fine.

LittleMy77 · 18/01/2021 13:13

Breakfast was fine and not hungry afterwards; lunch on the other hand has had me cruising the kitchen like a hungry hippo Grin I’ve banished myself to the office to make sure I don’t pick at stuff

Lunch is always my danger zone normally and leaves me hungry. Today it was homemade mushroom soup; avocado, ham and cheddar. I really want something sweet...

PastramiNoRye · 18/01/2021 13:24

@BIWI @StuntNun thanks for the haggis help! I may just have a wee taste of it or use a small amount as a stuffing for chicken. I love it but I also don't want to sabotage myself!

I lost nearly 5lb last week and I want to keep it going!

Today is all planned out:

B: eggs with spinach and mushrooms all cooked in butter, lemon water

L: cabbage soup with a drizzle of garlic oil, salmon fillet with garlic mayo.

D: roast beef, roasted celeriac and broccoli in butter.

A couple of creamy coffees and I'm working on the water!

Bumbledee · 18/01/2021 13:39

@AthelstaneTheUnready here’s a frozen broccoli recipe I’ve cooked before:

This is based on 500 grams broccoli, 500 grams chicken and 1/2 tin of coconut milk which is approximately 200ml I think.

Cook in butter or vegetable oil, add some freshly grated ginger or paste, cumin seeds not powder. Chilies or bell peppers if you don’t want the heat but flavour. Stir until you get a nice aroma, add the chicken, sauté until chicken isn’t pink but not cooked, add the broccoli, stir until it all mixes well, then pour in the coconut milk and let it simmer until cooked. You can increase or decrease the quantity of coconut milk based on whether you want it dry and stick or a creamy gravy. Mushrooms, runner beans, fine beans etc. go well with it too, but we can’t eat beans this week I think.

DataColour · 18/01/2021 13:41

Here the recipe for paneer butter masala www.indianhealthyrecipes.com/paneer-butter-masala-restaurant-style/