Jan '21 Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - the Easing-in Week

[BIWI]

Evening all

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This is the full list of those who have signed up. Hopefully you're all on The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness (unless you said you didn't want to be!

Remember, weighing in tomorrow is not part of this week, although if you want to, you can put your weight in the 'original start date/weight' columns

Thanks must go, as always, to the very lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready for setting up the spreadsheet. You'll see this time that we've amended it slightly so that you can record loss for this Bootcamp as well as since you started, for those of you who started earlier.

If your name isn't on the spreadsheet, don't panic! Just add it to the bottom of the list. Don't try to insert it in the right alphabetical place - Athelstane will do that later.

If you are on the spreadsheet, but don't want to be, send me or Athelstane a PM and we'll remove you.

Whatever you do, don't touch the blue cells!

If you're using a mobile to access the spreadsheet, you'll need to download the Google Sheets app.

Glad you liked it. I would recommend it only as an emergency pudding personally that stops you eating something sweeter.

Scales finally down a pound this morning after two days of soup. Planning a fry up this morning. I'm a bit confused why the numbers arnt moving faster. Usually I lose at least half a pound a day in the first week but not this time. Usually feel 'slimmer' very quickly too which is missing. Weird.

I had a bad day yesterday with the munchies. But I stick with it, even though dh opened a bottle of good wine (I had a taste from his glass but that was all) and he opened his bar of giant Toblerone that he'd got in his Christmas stocking

I snacked far too much though, even if they were all low carb

Today I'm going to be concentrating on the water. Tonight we're across at my dad's for dinner so I'm not fully in control - but I've already told him that I'm not having dessert, so that he doesn't make something special. He also knows that I won't have potato or rice, even if he serves it up (fortunately he always serves at table, so I get to say I don't want any).

Morning All!

Beautifully sunny here.

B - Greek yoghurt with cinnamon
L - Salad with hard-boiled eggs, cucumber etc
D - Oven baked salmon, asparagus, home-made hollandaise (great to have as a family, I just add boiled potatoes for the kids)

Someone upstream was asking how to get through bootcamp without giving their children an eating disorder. I also have daughters (one nearly secondary age) and I am very open with them about healthy eating, the fact that I have been putting on too much weight (which they can see and is actually their fault as it is all pregnancy weight . I don't tell them that, I tell them it's the wine!) and that I need to get back to a healthy BMI, at which point I will eat the same food as them again. I emphasise health and exercise (thank you, duff ankle) and they get it as they are really into athletics and eating right to be able to perform (is that just here btw or are children these days all about being sporty? Long may it continue).

Anyway, difficult subject. I am trying not to repeat the mistakes of my mother, who put me on a strict diet when I was eight (I was a normal weight!) - think 1 Ryvita for lunch whilst watching my brothers tuck in.

Good day to everyone!

Dulcet if you're breastfeeding then you can skip Bootcamp if you like and go straight to Bootcamp Light. I also suggest taking a breastfeeding multivitamin since the baby gets first dibs on your vitamin and mineral supplies. You should still be eating to satiety, starting out with three meals a day plus snacks. After the first couple of weeks you shouldn't need to snack any more. Some people eventually move after Bootcamp on to doing 16:8 intermittent fasting and skipping breakfast but it's completely optional.

Bestbees your breakfasts don't look excessive so I wouldn't worry about it. Everyone has a different appetite.

Thank you Stuntnun! I suspect it it because I eat with the kids at 5.30 so actually 7am is a long time off!

I tend to need less at lunch time too so trying to listen to my body and not the clock.

@BIWI I’m on week three as panicked after Christmas. Is this the week the loss slows? I thought that was week 4?
I’ve lost 10lbs since 29 January but at nearly the end of week three there’s no movement at all.

Having breakfast today as heading out for a longer run. Beautiful day here.
B Avocado, butter scrambled eggs and mushrooms
L green soup, cheese and salad with olive oil dressing.
D Frittata with broccoli

[quote m0therofdragons]@BIWI I’m on week three as panicked after Christmas. Is this the week the loss slows? I thought that was week 4?
I’ve lost 10lbs since 29 January but at nearly the end of week three there’s no movement at all.[/quote]

Both weeks 3 and 4 are notorious for weight loss slowing/stopping - some people actually gain a pound or back. But then by week 5 the weight loss starts again, which is why it's important to KOKO.

There will be weeks when we don't lose or even gain, but follow the rules and the overall trajectory will be downwards.

Oh, and measure yourself. Sometimes you can be losing inches but not pounds!!

@frty that's horrific, I can't imagine.

My 14yo DS has ambitions of playing for the NBA, he's played at county level - this does not translate into his eating - he loves fast food and snacking

My 2yo DD was my motivation to lose weight, I wanted to be happier with myself whilst she was still too young to pick up on my unhappiness

@Motivateinmotion

Anyone have any LC gravy recipes?

When you roast your chicken, make a 'trivet' for it from a couple of shallots, that you have sliced lengthways. Pour water into the roasting tin, so that it's about a centimetre deep, and add the juice of a lemon. Put the lemon itself inside the chicken cavity. Then season the chicken well, especially with salt, and give it a good drizzle of olive oil. You could also sprinkle some dried herbs on top of the chicken - oregano is good.

Roast your chicken on a very high heat for 20 minutes, then turn the heat down to whatever is recommended on the packaging for the rest of the roasting time. Keep checking ever 20 minutes and baste the chicken and add more water if needed.

Take the chicken out after its cooking time (will probably be around 75-90 minutes altogether, depending on the size of the chicken) and put it onto a chopping board, then cover it with foil and then a clean tea towel, and let it rest. You can then either use the juices left in the roasting tin as they are, and serve with the shallots, or pour it into a small saucepan and blend together with a hand blender - the shallots will thicken it a little. Put the pan on a low heat while the chicken is resting, so that you have a hot gravy to pour over it when you serve onto your plate.

@DataColour

Thanks for the Greek yoghurt tips! I found that Morrisons have an own brand one at 4% fat which I purchased.

That's not a very high fat content though. The best ones are around 10%, which is ideally what you should be aiming for. If you have any, add some double cream to it so that the fat is higher.

Remember that low carbing isn't about eating low fat food!

@ListenLinda

The thing with breakfast is to treat it like any other meal. There's no need for any kind of 'special' food. It's only thanks to Mr Kellogg that we believe we have to eat differently!

If I eat breakfast (I usually skip it, as I'm fasting), it's either Greek yogurt, with a bit of vanilla, or eggs of some variety - usually either boiled or in an omelette, with some cheese or mushrooms.

Thanks so much @BIWI will report back how it goes!

Plan for today
B- Greek yoghurt with spoon of double cream
L- Egg wrap with bacon, lettuce, Mayo
D- Roast chicken, spring greens, broccoli and green beans with gravy

3l water plus coffees with almond milk

@DataColour @PastramiNoRye

There are carbs in almond milk, but it varies depending on the brand - Plenish has only 0.4g carbs per 100ml, so I think that's probably the lowest.

However 100ml would be a very small glass! (That's 2/3 of one of those mini tins of tonic). So go easy on it. Remember, you're supposed to be getting your carbs mainly from vegetables and salad.

(As a by-the-by, pumpkin is quite carby - 6.7g carbs per 100g - so would not be in the green zone!)

@LittleMy77 I'm afraid that pulses/legumes/beans are not allowed during all of Bootcamp.

They are, though, very good for you so you can reintroduce them after Bootcamp, during more relaxed low carbing.

@DulcetMoans

chicken, mushrooms, broccali, pepper in a garlic mustard cream (double cream)

Sounds lovely! Green pepper would be better than red/yellow overall, but don't worry too much about that.

@MrsOmelette hopefully you'll be feeling better today. Remember to keep your salt up - cook with it and add it to your food. That will help massively.

@Bestbees great progress!

I am finding I am starving in the morning, but hoping that eases off so I can fast a bit

This would suggest that you're not eating enough fat and/or protein. Try upping that and see what happens. That said, your quantities sound fine to me. As StuntNun has pointed out, this is not a WOE that's about deprivation! You eat to satiation. Obviously that's not carte blanche to pile your plate high at every meal, but if you're hungry at mealtimes, then eat till you're satisfied.

Any critiques on the food?

The only thing I'd say about your food for today is that you could do with a bit more veg - only coleslaw with your dinner seems a bit light! Otherwise, it all sounds lovely.

I don't feel constipated, but also don't seem to poo much blush assume this is normal as I am not stuffed fill of carbs!

Absolutely true, and normal. It's only constipation if you're having trouble going or if you're in pain.

@Iamnotacerealkiller

I'm a bit confused why the numbers arnt moving faster. Usually I lose at least half a pound a day in the first week but not this time. Usually feel 'slimmer' very quickly too which is missing. Weird.

Well, you've just gone through a pretty major trauma with your surgery, and have had/are having a lot of drugs/painkillers - I'd imagine that this is what your body has been dealing with rather than trying to lose weight. Stress produces cortisol, which does have a negative impact on weight loss.

I wouldn't worry about it, just focus on healing, and make sure you're getting good nutrition during this period, and as much rest/sleep as you can.

That’s a great tip about the almond milk! I assumed it would be higher because nuts in general are - but this one seems to be 0 carb: www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/alpro-fresh-almond-unsweetened-1l?

Now I’m tempted to buy one of those Nespresso milk frothers and try this instead of my normal double cream! Tempting tempting.

To be honest @Frty ...

I tell them it's the wine!) and that I need to get back to a healthy BMI, at which point I will eat the same food as them again

... there's no need for you to be eating differently from them at all!

In this house, if I'm cooking, everyone eats what I've cooked.

That means that if someone wants pasta or rice, it's not an issue, but they have to specially request it and, ideally, cook it themselves!

Alternatively, you just add a portion of carbs to their plate and leave it off yours - e.g. meat and 2 veg for you, meat and 2 veg plus potatoes for them.

I really don't think a low carb diet should be described as a disordered diet! If anything, it should become something that we see as normal.

@m0therofdragons

I'm afraid that weeks 3 and 4 (and sometimes even 5!) are renowned for little or no weight loss - sometimes even a small gain.

It's clearly working well for you if you've lost 10lbs (I assume you mean since 29 December?), so just KOKO - keep on keeping on - and you'll start to lose again. Just bear in mind that the rate of loss will be slower from now on - although it will be fat that you're losing, which is the important thing.

Thanks @BIWI!

Am collating all the can / can’t eat info into a list I can stick in the kitchen so there are no excuses for ‘oh I can’t remember about X’

@Lyrata

That’s a great tip about the almond milk! I assumed it would be higher because nuts in general are - but this one seems to be 0 carb: www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/alpro-fresh-almond-unsweetened-1l?

Now I’m tempted to buy one of those Nespresso milk frothers and try this instead of my normal double cream! Tempting tempting.

Almond milks do vary enormously - in the carb count, their calorie content and their ingredients.

Alpro may be low carb, but look at the ingredients:

Water, Almond (2.3%), Calcium (Tri-Calcium Phosphate), Sea Salt, Stabilisers (Locust Bean Gum, Gellan Gum), Emulsifier (Lecithins (Sunflower)), Vitamins (B2, B12, E, D2)

Whereas Plenish has the following:

Filtered Water, Almonds 6%, Sea Salt

... albeit 0.4g carbs.

@LittleMy77

Thanks *@BIWI*!

Am collating all the can / can’t eat info into a list I can stick in the kitchen so there are no excuses for ‘oh I can’t remember about X’

That's a good idea! Also a good idea to print out the rules and have those to hand too.