Jan '21 Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - the Easing-in Week

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This is the full list of those who have signed up. Hopefully you're all on The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness (unless you said you didn't want to be!

Remember, weighing in tomorrow is not part of this week, although if you want to, you can put your weight in the 'original start date/weight' columns

Thanks must go, as always, to the very lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready for setting up the spreadsheet. You'll see this time that we've amended it slightly so that you can record loss for this Bootcamp as well as since you started, for those of you who started earlier.

If your name isn't on the spreadsheet, don't panic! Just add it to the bottom of the list. Don't try to insert it in the right alphabetical place - Athelstane will do that later.

If you are on the spreadsheet, but don't want to be, send me or Athelstane a PM and we'll remove you.

Whatever you do, don't touch the blue cells!

If you're using a mobile to access the spreadsheet, you'll need to download the Google Sheets app.

ChristMyArse on the last Bootcamp somebody described that effect as a ping-pong pound.

To add to what Spooks says, it really is helpful to post your food on here each day, whether at the end of the day or as a plan at the start of the day. It actually makes a huge difference in keeping yourself on track. There are studies proving it. Or if you don't want to post on here then you can write them down in a food diary or log them on your phone. It's the writing it down that's important.

Okidokes, will take everyone's advice on board. I'm really not hungry, though. And yes, soup is with cream/ chicken stock etc.

@Oneborneverydecade - both a big baby (DD was 98th percentile) and two pregnancies fairly close together - got pregnant with her brother about 18 months later.

It went undiagnosed for six years. I'd had back problems for years and eventually on saw a physio after an injury on stage (I'm an actor) made it worse. She told me it was no wonder I had back problems, as my stomach muscles had completely separated - she could literally get her whole fist between them, meaning I had virtually no core strength and my back was quite literally doing all the heavy lifting.

It took time and effort to fix, but it was worth it. Not only do I look much better, I get hardly any back pain - just the usual middle age aches first thing!

@Oneborneverydecade that’s actually a relief! I’d hate to have shared a bad recommendation.

I think it’s because my bacon burnt a bit and I was a bit over-keen in putting the scrapings and the oil from that in. I enjoy a bit of burnt umami flavour in a meat sauce but I think with the other ingredients it just made the whole thing taste a bit dirty - and not in a good way!

Ah well. It’s not terrible, but I’m not excited for lunch to come either.

Thanks for the help everyone - will try and cut down on the dairy and see if that helps.
Have only had one tea with milk today and one without. Will have chicken with piles of green veg and mushrooms in butter for dinner and no dairy!

Yeah, good advice above to just relax about the pattern of weightloss.

It won't be linear, it won't be regular, just like putting it on wasn't linear or regular. I know it can seem stressful stopping, or even going up again, but relax. It will come down again. Like sledging, it will be a bumpy ride, but it's a bumpy ride downhill.

I'm starting Monday
I don't drink but I love chocolate and cheese (I have some 100% choc)

I need my coffee in the morning. I drink it with a splash of milk but hate cream / black coffee. Will that mess things up? Why is cream / butter ok but milk not as both the same product ?

I had a weight loss of 9.5st over 2 years but have put 2st back on and am trying not to panic about regaining. I've two kids with Autism and am a single parent and struggle to find time to plan for my needs too.
I need an easy menu (pref the same sort of things each day) to follow

Right now I have:
am: large cafetiere of coffee over the morning (a bit of milk)
two boiled eggs on a slice of wholemeal. Piece of fruit

Lunch: sandwich with salad and protein. piece of fruit

Mid afternoon piece of homebaking

Dinner - same as kids but small portion. So: pasta, shepherds pie, chicken curry, roast, - bog standard family dinners. Piece of fruit

Often I don't sit down till 11pm. I've fallen into the habit of having a piece of cheese (and oatcakes) or chocolate then. Very bad idea!

I need to adapt this! Drop fruit, carbs, choc, cheese.
I'm planning on scrambled eggs no toast.
Lunch - take the bread away and have big salad with tuna / chicken
dinner? can i just eat the fish / meat part with no carbs and add extra green veg?
Sorry for super basic Qu's at this stage.

Ooof, sorry for essay :(

I have a new challenge to add to dry jan, giving up smoking, daily yoga, and bootcamp.

My oil tank needs replacing next week as a matter of urgency. I've been saving up for this, but am not quite there yet. My food budget for the next month will make up the difference, just!

If I can only eat out of the freezer and cupboards for 4.5 weeks.

Good news - I'm well stocked (being rural and 25 miles away from the nearest supermarket anyway). Even better news - there's a lot of meat and frozen veg in the freezer. Slightly duff news - that is a REALLY repetitive menu. Just warning you all, so if I become slightly unhinged later in the month, there'll be some forgiveness

B: lots and lots and lots of coffee
L: cold roast pork and gherkins
D: probs massive tuna mayo olive lettuce salad

@Lyrata

Plot twist: the yogurt is made of cauliflower

I love a plot-twist and my son is already looking with suspicion at our yogurt.

Athelstane sounds like a plan! tough esp giving up smoking and drinking al at once.. But yes new oil tank sounds imperative.. yu really dont want to be cold on top of all that !
I do a pretty repetitive LC when I am on BC tbh.. I actually find it easier than thinking of new things al the time,
Breakfast (well Brunch because I try for 16:8) is always the same .. eggs and either cheese or ham and dinner I have about 5 or so favourites , that I sort of rotate.. or often make the same thing and eat 2 days in a row..

It does work for me .. somehow it also keeps me focused.

I just ate my brunch now.. buttery eggs and cheese
several black coffees ( need more water, Ill go and gulp some now )
Binner tonight is home made chicken leek and herb soup.. with extra chicken and some broccoli in the bottom of the bowl ,and a dollop of pesto .. Yeah, a bit weird I know..

I've just remembered I have sprouts in the freezer. Off to shoogle!

[quote BIWI]@ChristMyArse

List out for me your meals/drinks over the last 3-4 days and let's see if there's anything we can help you with[/quote]
Thanks @BIWI & @StuntNun

I keep a good diary as I find it keeps my head in the game.. these are my last 4 days

1. B - buttery scrambled egg and spinach with added butter

L - Salmon, cauliflower, courgette and celery all cooked in butter in one pan D - Greek yoghurt with a dash of double cream and sweet cinnamon spice

1. B - buttery scrambled egg and smoked salmon

L- Pork chops and buttered spinach D - Greek yoghurt, dash of cream and cinnamon

1. B - bacon fried in butter, cucumber and avocado

L - no lunch as breakfast was more of a brunch D - 3 x black farmer sausages with cabbage and spinach

1. B - bacon, 4 cherry tomatoes, 1 BF sausage and baby cucumbers.

L - Salmon, cauliflower, avocado, yellow pepper and celery D - just a few pieces of gammon.

I do think that I need to improve my routine in terms of when I eat as we are out of sync having everyone home and are staying up later and getting up later and it throws me out for the whole day.

In the above time frame I've had 2 creamy coffees. I drink a minimum of 4 litres a day - but I think have drunk around 5/6 on some days - poss too much?

Can you have too much fat? Use too much butter?!

Ok the positive side I can see a change in my shape around my torso and under my boobs so I'm very pleased with that.

Thanks for your help - it's much appreciated!!

Still got a few none lc thing to get rid of so this morn was omelette with vegan sausages which are 10g carb per 100 and dinner is with vegan mince at 8g per 100 so not horrific but need using before Monday.
Staying with the principles though so mince will be turned into chilli with cabbage instead of rice. I've just realised a haven't looked at carbs in kidney beans - will leave them out if necessary

It doesn't look like a huge amount of food ChristMyArse so it could be that you're under eating although it's difficult to tell without counting calories. I would keep on as you are and give it time.

@52andblue

I need my coffee in the morning. I drink it with a splash of milk but hate cream / black coffee. Will that mess things up? Why is cream / butter ok but milk not as both the same product?

Because milk has far more carbs than cream. Double cream has 1.5g carbs per 100ml, whereas semi-skimmed milk has 4.8g!

If you're genuinely only having a splash, and only one cup, then it shouldn't be a problem - but I'd try it with cream or black and see how you get on. The other thing with cream is that generally you'd add a lot less than you would with milk.

Right now I have:
am: large cafetière of coffee over the morning (a bit of milk)

Even if you're only having a splash of milk in each cup, if you're drinking a large cafetière of coffee that could add up to a lot of milk - and so a lot of carbs.

two boiled eggs on a slice of wholemeal. Piece of fruit

The eggs are fine - just ditch the toast and the fruit. I know you'll think that won't be enough to stop you getting hungry, but trust me it will be!

Lunch: sandwich with salad and protein. piece of fruit

Salad and protein is fine - bread and fruit isn't! So I'd go for something like tuna mayo (that you might have had in the sandwich) with a good side salad, dressed with an oily dressing and/or mayonnaise

Mid afternoon piece of homebaking

Sorry, but this is verboten on Bootcamp!

Dinner - same as kids but small portion. So: pasta, shepherds pie, chicken curry, roast, - bog standard family dinners. Piece of fruit

First, drop the fruit. Secondly, the pasta/mash/rice is out, so you need to look either for different things to cook, or for substitutes. If I make spaghetti Bolognese for the rest of the family, either I'll have just the meat sauce with lots of Parmesan on top, or I'll have it on a bed of courgetti (spiralised courgettes), thinly sliced and boiled/steamed white cabbage, or I use these noodles, which are almost zero carbs . For shepherds pie, substitute potato mash for mash made from celeriac and leek, or cauliflower or swede. Chicken curry is fine, just serve with veg instead of rice. And as far as a roast is concerned, lots of lovely veg - just not roast potatoes or parsnips or Yorkshire pudding!

There are lots of lovely, easy and family-friendly recipes here that might help you

Often I don't sit down till 11pm. I've fallen into the habit of having a piece of cheese (and oatcakes) or chocolate then. Very bad idea!

Nothing wrong with the cheese - but drop the oatcakes and the chocolate! Once we move into Bootcamp Light (after the first two weeks), you'll be able to re-introduce chocolate, but it will need to be at least 70% cocoa.

I need to adapt this! Drop fruit, carbs, choc, cheese

Not sure why you think you should drop the cheese? Unless you have an issue with dairy - which you won't know until we get going - there's nothing wrong with the odd piece of cheese. Just don't go mad ... !

I'm planning on scrambled eggs no toast

Perfect. You could also add to this, e.g. cheese, or smoked salmon

^Lunch - take the bread away and have big salad with tuna / chicken
dinner? can i just eat the fish / meat part with no carbs and add extra green veg?^

Perfect - and yes!

Hope that helps

LOL @1WayOrAnother2 at suspicious yoghurt

@ChristMyArse

Am I right in thinking that you're now in week 3? As mentioned upthread, weeks 3 & 4 are notorious for little or not weight loss - even perhaps a small gain.

Your meals look absolutely fine to me, and you're drinking plenty of water, which is great.

Can you have too much fat? Use too much butter?!

Not really - fat is very satiating anyway! At this stage of Bootcamp don't be afraid of the fat.

Ok the positive side I can see a change in my shape around my torso and under my boobs so I'm very pleased with that

So it's working! Brilliant!

The scales aren't always the most accurate way of monitoring our progress, believe it or not - your body shape and how your clothes fit are both much more realistic.

So overall I'd just say KOKO - keep on keeping on.

I've toyed with the Low Carb Bootcamp before but never really fully embraced it

For some reason, I'm giddily excited about this one and am intending to follow it rigorously and see it through.

To make it even easier for me, my Bodybuilders' Kitchen recipe book not only has meal plans for cutting/bulking and body recompositioning, but a full section for keto

I haven't got much to lose – around ten pounds to get to 'stage weight' – but I feel a bit lumpy and 'over carbed' right now so this has come at exactly the right time.

I'll need all the support on here to keep on the straight and narrow though.

Really looking forward to sharing our experiences, ups and downs

Hello, I’ve added my name to the spreadsheet. Thank you for having me.

I’ve eaten lowish carb for seven years now, since getting gestational diabetes, and suspect I remain insulin resistant. The lowness of my carbs has ups and downs although I remain far less interested in them, and sugar, than I used to be thankfully. I’ve had a bad Christmas and put on 10lbs which will not now budge, and my BMI is heading back up towards 30 from 27 where it was in December, so this is the year I finally get it below 25. I’ve never bootcamped before so thought it would be a good kick start!

My question is about quantities. I have a very small appetite nowadays and often only eat once a day with no other meals or snacks. I suspect I will he roundly told off for that here - eg yesterday I had a courgette, tomato and feta bake for dinner with some leftover roast chicken. How can I train myself to eat more?!

Some people I know dilute their double cream to give it more the consistency of milk for use in tea.

I've never tried it but it might work.

@BIWI

Thank you - I shall KOKO! I'm on day 13 today, but also just started AF so that maybe playing a part. I'm really enjoying this WOE and I'm in it for the long hall. I also have an amazing OH who makes all my meals for me which, considering I'm a crap cook utterly shit would be more like it makes it far easier otherwise I would be making very bland meals and not enjoying it as much.

Today's meals...

B - buttery scrambled eggs, butter wilted spinach.

L - chicken bone broth and cream soup

D - Diet Doctor lemon butter salmon, broccoli and leeks pan friend in butter.

Blueberries and double cream if I'm feeling the need for anything later.

Coffee with cream and salt and 2l of water.

One small cup of tea which I'm hoping to wean myself off this week before BC proper starts!

Not getting any cravings at all and gone completely cold turkey on my spearmint polo addiction. Not even thought about them. I could eat a 4 pack a day before! 🙈

Hello! Ive come to join as I'm morbidly obese and want to reduce appetite/have better blood sugar control as well as obviously eventually not being morbidly obese...

I was so tired with baby 2 I think carbs became my staple diet...and an incredible weight gain

Ive seen theres 13 pages so I'll go back and read! Thanks everyone .

Dailyhandtowelwash eating one meal a day (OMAD) is renowned in the fasting community for stopping weight loss. Some people do manage to lose on it but generally it's regarded as only being good for weight maintenance. What time of day do you normally eat? I suggest having a small amount of food 6-8 hours before your usual meal time. Be aware that if you've been chronically undereating for some time then you may well gain weight before you start losing. This is because your body will have put off as much repair work as it can and could well have used up your lean muscle mass as an energy source. So you will need to regain the lost muscle weight before you can start losing fat weight.