Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - week 7

[BIWI]

Morning all.

So we're entering the last four weeks. Still time to lose a good few pounds before we reach the end.

here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

I can see already that we've had some great results, and look forward to seeing/hearing about the rest!

Ooh. Definitely doing that venus. Maybe with the yoghurt and cream too And meringue sans sweetener is a fantastic idea Rshard

Have similar remembrances of Paul Smith nowlook.

What thread am I looking out for in S&B? Can't find you guys.

I've been trying to get rhubarb. @BrassicaBabe you could use it to flavour / ferment kefir water.

@nowlook my 15 yo Dd is stunning. Size 8, tall, very goth. She would rock that dress, but sadly doesn't really have anywhere to wear it.

Last bootcamp I really focused and went from about 10st 4 to 9st 5. Between bootcamps I was between 9st 5 and 9st 7 but since starting this bootcamp I am down to 9st 2, not a huge amount but I haven't got much to lose now really. Was hoping to get down to 9st by the end of bootcamp so it will be tight whether I get there but to be honest I'm pretty happy where I am now, another few pounds isnt really going to make a difference. Just wanted to say a huge thank you for these threads and all the knowledge and information everyone shares, I don't say much but I always read everything and I am really grateful for all the effort that is put in, thank you!

@BrassicaBabe
Don't know how to link the S&B thread, but the OP is Yankathebear if you advance search it.

Hello. I've been lurking a while and started bootcamp this week. However I just glanced at the week 1 thread which I hadn't looked at before. It mentions counting both calories and carb intake, which isn't mentioned in the bootcamp rules. There are lots of tabs on the spreadsheet so I'm wondering have I missed one. I've stuck to the rules but haven't been counting anything. Have I totally messed up?

Also, re cheese: the rules say it's okay but don't 'overdo it' or words to that effect. What would be overdoing it? I fear I might have done exactly that! I'm pescatarian so cheese is very useful.

Back down 2lbs on the scales this morning so looks like I've avoided damage from the kebab-mikado carbingegate.

Bit anxious about going away today as my resolve isn't as strong right now but I'm going to do my best.
I keep having strange dreams about when i was slim. I'm also aware its been over 10 years since I was. I'm still young all things considered but aware that i might look very wobbly and saggy this time.. if i make it there.

Welcome jiminny. I don't think kcal and carb counting is normally a BC thing, but for whatever reason was introduced this time- maybe because of lockdown. See what the scales say. If they're down then you're doing fine!

@Jiminny

Hello. I've been lurking a while and started bootcamp this week. However I just glanced at the week 1 thread which I hadn't looked at before. It mentions counting both calories and carb intake, which isn't mentioned in the bootcamp rules. There are lots of tabs on the spreadsheet so I'm wondering have I missed one. I've stuck to the rules but haven't been counting anything. Have I totally messed up?

Also, re cheese: the rules say it's okay but don't 'overdo it' or words to that effect. What would be overdoing it? I fear I might have done exactly that! I'm pescatarian so cheese is very useful.

Welcome, @Jiminny!

This Bootcamp has been an extraordinary one in that we started with a super strict 'short sharp shock' in week 1 - it was designed to get us all into a more focused mindset, as many people were feeling that any sense of healthy eating or dieting had gone out of the window during lockdown.

In 'normal' Bootcamp (is there ever a normal one I wonder? ) we never count calories, and we certainly don't measure our carbs.

The most critical tab on the spreadsheet is the one with the rules, so just follow those and you will be fine.

With regard to cheese, overdoing it would be having a whole pack of cheese in one go! Although we say that this WOE (way of eating) isn't about deprivation, and you should eat if you're hungry - it isn't carte blanche for over-eating, or huge portion sizes - and that's one reason why we say go easy with the cheese.

The other reason to go easy with the cheese (and also cream and milk) is that some people find that dairy can impede their weight loss. (Milk should generally be avoided anyway, as it has a lot of carbs.)

If you're using cheese as a source of protein, that's fine - but just keep an eye on things and maybe try to find other sources as well, like eggs, for example.

Thanks BIWI. Ah that explains it. I might refrain from counting as that just makes me stressed. I'm on day 5 with no loss so far but maybe it takes a few days to register. I'm over 49 and nothing registers very quickly (apart from weight gain of course!). I do like milky tea and coffee but have switched to almond milk so hopefully that will be okay (and I've cut down on how many I have anyway). Re the cheese- that's a relief. I haven't been having as much as that!

I meant I am 49. 😂

Morning! Sorry I’ve been a bit absent this week - interview today - it’s been on my mind and feeling a bit of stress. Didn’t sleep well last night so feeling all groggy and crap and have to attempt to be impressive later. Gah.
Weight wise - sticking a bit - whizzing between 158 and 157, not getting lower. But AF due next week and I remember this happening then too.
Camping later! Just for 1 night.

Can I also ask what the general view on exercise is on here? The more the better I guess? Do most of you combine the diet with a significant amount of exercise?

My birthday drinks have shown on the scales. Up a kg this morning! I'm pretty sure it is glycogen stores filling up, so will double down. It helps, as it just underlines how bad alcohol is for me.

@devoncreamtea
Very best of luck for the interview! Don't worry about the lack of sleep- adrenaline will kick in. What's your line? (as we used to say back in the 70s) grin]

@Jiminny
Hello and welcome! We're such a mixed bag on the exercise front here. We have running fools who do half marathons before sunrise and we have people like me who simply run up and down the stairs because they need a wee every half hour.*

*public health announcement: the benefits of regular exercise are proven. You should do that.

@Takingontheworld
See? Nothing to worry about with the kebab! Safe travels today. I've sent you a message, but you might not get to it until later.

public health announcement: the benefits of regular exercise are proven. You should do that.

Ha ha! I will, thanks @nowlook

Thank you @nowlook 😊 I’m going to focus on evidencing how I have improved performance in literacy. Hoping to get a more literacy focussed role next year. But I did hear that there were 25 applicants!!! I guess lots of people are looking for work...

Good luck for the interview devon, you’ll smash it.

Welcome jiminy. As nowlook said we’re a real mix where it comes to exercise.

One more question (for now): has anyone had success while following every single bootcamp rule bar one- the artificial sweetener transgression?? I'm finding it hard to do without, and the diet might be more sustainable for me if I include it. Feel free to DM me if admitting that here is considered too sacrilegious! 😂

@Jiminny I find that my taste buds adjust pretty quickly on this woe, and even a cherry tomato tastes amazingly sweet. If you can, try to avoid because a) artificial sweeteners are awful for you and can cause inflammation and gut issues, and b) we are trying to adjust our palate to less sweet things.

What do you have sweeteners with? If it is tea or coffee, try having fruit water or tea instead.

@Jiminny

I'll put my head above the parapet for you. I don't have a sweet tooth fortunately, but if I'm having the occasional vodka and soda, I will add a dash of sugar-free cordial to make it taste of something. Squeezing a lime into it is too much like hard work. For me, that's better than having a glass of wine (because I can't have just the one glass). That said, you're at the start of BC, so you can't have any alcohol at the moment. And when you do have alcohol, your body will have to deal with that first because it gets to any food you've eaten.

I've said that quickly and in one para so that a certain someone doesn't come at me with the stick.

@nowlook

Got it *@Takingontheworld* and have replied.

It's always darkest before the dawn. But sometimes you don't have to wait for the dawn. Sometimes you just need someone who will walk beside you, swinging a torch, with a mad glint in their eye, singing "someone's gonna get it"

(the best advice I ever had from another lawyer about a hundred years ago)

Taking so sorry to hear that about your business, I do hope that it doesnt turn out as bad as you fear .. Glad that the kebab didnt do any damage in the long run though

.. I did like that quote though Now look Fantastic!..

Scales are playing 'bounce' again .. They will only get so many warnings thne its window for them !

So far Black tea, black coffee .. eating window opens at midday ..

I've been working so haven't caught up with everyone - sorry. Just dipping in quickly before a work Zoom meeting to ask for a bit of encouragement. I'm halfway through my week 4, and having broken into a new stone bracket on Monday, I'm now nearly 2lb up on that.

I'm doing light exercising, 16:8 overnight fast, late morning coffee with cream then lunch, and dinner over by 7/8pm. Lots of salad, green veg, eggs, salmon, mayo, creamy sauces, etc. I could probably drink more - but I think, otherwise, I'm doing the right things. Not due on.

I know this can be a plateau time, but f*ck it's discouraging. 2lb up?!

Why does it happen? Stories of post-week 4 whooshes?! Thanks.

@Eggbound

Don't worry- it does happen and it's not real. Week four is a bitch. Just keep going and drink more water.

I'm in week five and currently going down a pound a day.

Thanks @nowlook. Really appreciate that. 1lb a day?! That's immense. God, I hope that happens next week. Have just downed a glass of water!

Thanks nigellaawesome and nowlook. I'll make a bigger effort to cut the artificial sweeteners. I use sweeteners in coffee, might have to just switch to tea as I don't like coffee without it. I also like diet tonic water (not as a mixer, am not drinking obvs, just on its own) and Diet Coke. I know only too well I must wean myself off....