Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - week 7

[BIWI]

Morning all.

So we're entering the last four weeks. Still time to lose a good few pounds before we reach the end.

here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

I can see already that we've had some great results, and look forward to seeing/hearing about the rest!

[BIWI]

Week 8 chat thread is here

[Takingontheworld]

Also I am still bleeding. Ill have to go back to last thread to work out when this started but it feels like a ridiculously long time!

[Takingontheworld]

Hi all.

Up in the night feeling absolutely ill. Feels like if i could just be sick I'd feel so much better!

Worked so hard this weekend, the apartment kitchen was absolutely unusable so I had to be extremely awkward and ask for lots of adjustments to food while we were out- which I did, and for the most part managed really well, except I had 2 glasses on white wine on saturday which as I haven't drank in this entire period and all I'd eaten was essentially salad and small amounts of meat went straight to my head, felt totally drunk and ended up eating a chunk of bloody lemon cake when i stumbled home 🤦‍♀️ last night i was home so late and dh hadn't shopped, so we ordered. I asked for chicken tikka and intended to have with a natural yogurt mixup I'd make myself and some salad. When it finally arrived I was ready to chew my arm off and they'd given us two rogan josh. I gave up. No rice but had 2 poppadoms. And now I'm wide awake still feeling absolutely stuffed and horribly sick, like that proper could barf any minute type nausea.



Fucksake.

[AthelstaneTheUnready]

nowlook that DIY ceremony sounds excellent! Talk about thought taken, and effort made. Yeah, a bit weird, but sometimes it really is the thought that counts.

[AthelstaneTheUnready]

blustery i've had a weekend of people offering me sweets, and so far it's completely worked to just say "no thanks".

Like pp's say, no excuses, no debate... HOWEVER it helps if you run your words straight on, as in "no thanks-i-really-like-that-new-top-you're-wearing". Leave a gap, and people fill it with "why don't you..."

Been a+ for food, d- for wine, a+ for moving around this weekend, but with a still dodgy arm restricting energetic movement am hoping for a STS tomorrow.

[BrassicaBabe]

" I reckon the reconfiguring of relationships with alcohol take a long time." I think you are right devon. Time to get back on the wagon and have a rethink.

Boy I still feel terrible!!

An article about sweeteners? Nope, not seeing it

[Jiminny]

Thanks @BIWI for that article link. It has triggered a whole load of reading about artificial sweeteners. The 'cephalic phase insulin release' stuff is fascinating. I found a medical journal paper about it too. Right that's it. I'm going cold turkey on it. I'm not a scientist but I like to know the scientific argument for things. I also have gut issues so it makes every sense. I'll miss you Diet Coke 😩
Thanks BIWI!

[venusandmars]

blusteryshowers actually most people don't care what you're eating (as long as you're not telling them about every mouthful you are / are not having).

My pet hate is people who say.. either : "oh I'm xyz free.. I couldn't possibly eat that." or "well i shouldn't really... Oh go on, just a bite..."
Either eat it, or don't eat it. But don't tell everyone why you are making or breaking your choices.

[Tornfelt]

I think a lot of people have a problem with others making different choices to them. It must flag up their own insecurities so they attack or belittle to feel better about themselves.
I really like the positivity on this thread!

[ealingwestmum]

Great news on the weight shift MrsK Lovely to hear you grew up West too, my daughter is probably frequenting all your old park haunts right now between Hammersmith, Chiswick and Ealing!

Blustery, I also used to come away frustrated at giving in to please others. My medic friends would be the worst for poo pooing what I ate. In particular, one brunch re-call of what I had eaten with my family (baked camembert and asparagus) took a real mocking. Not sure why, it was lush I've since had to remind myself that these type of people do this on almost everything - if it's different to their choices (schools, interests, what the kids do extra curricular etc), ignorance is best met with raised eyebrow rather than trying to understand or support. Must be a reason why I've become more reclusive in my older years and very selective with who I hang out with...

[BIWI]

I do understand that it's hard, but sometimes you have to put yourself first!

(I didn't think many people knew what my name stands for any more - it's years since I changed it )

[BlusteryShowers]

Thanks BIWI - I do know what your username stands for too !

It's ridiculous isn't it? It's annoyed me in hindsight because I have, for instance completely dropped my sugar in coffee, and have told them why this is. But then they'll do me a ("just a little") slice of cake to go with it or a round of bacon rolls for lunch and it feels embarrassing to keep bringing it up.

You are very right.

[BIWI]

@BlusteryShowers

I'm feeling embarrassed to be eating differently, as though it draws more attention to my weight. This has meant accepting carby food out of some wierd feeling of politeness and not wanting to be conspicuous

Do you not think you're worth it?

If you were a coeliac you'd be eating a different diet from other people, and I bet you wouldn't feel embarrassed about that!

Don't accept carby food if you don't want to. I absolutely get that sometimes you can't avoid it, and there are certain circumstances where it would be impolite to refuse - but don't eat it just because you feel other people will be judging you in some way.

[BlusteryShowers]

Well I've been terrible for the last fortnight and really paying for it. Scales today say I've put 5lb back on. I can feel it as well.

I've realised that as lockdown is lifting and we're seeing people a bit more, I'm feeling embarrassed to be eating differently, as though it draws more attention to my weight. This has meant accepting carby food out of some wierd feeling of politeness and not wanting to be conspicuous. The knock on of this has unfortunately been a case of the fuck-it's and there have been treats in the house because of my son's birthday.

DH is also doing some construction work in the garden on his days off, which means that I'm in sole charge of the children pretty much all day every day so exercise has ground to a halt.

Looking forward...

Meals planned
DS starting back at nursery two days per week so resume pavement pounding with DD's pram.

I've started today with a halloumi salad and lots of water. When DH gets up soon (been on night shift) I am going to go out for some exercise.

[1WildTeaParty]

This has to be the most interesting thread on mumsnet - all life is here.
Clearly success in losing weight is about the whole person.

[BIWI]

this is an interesting piece about the impact of artificial sweeteners on both our insulin levels and our gut biome

[devoncreamtea]

Thanks for all the congrats! 😊

Wowzers mrskoala that is an impressive movement 🤣

35 days is a fantastic effort Brassicababe. Well done! Hope you feel less vile soon. I reckon the reconfiguring of relationships with alcohol take a long time. You’ve done 35 days and a blow out was probably inevitable once you lifted the bar on it. But now you can move towards creating habits that you prefer. I’m not a moderator either by nature (with anything!!!) but I DO believe it’s possible to learn to be.

[BIWI]

@Jiminny

Morning. I'm starting day 6 of this (started Monday) and my scales have stayed the same. Is that common? I thought I'd see something by now. I'm posting yesterday's food below to get feedback.

I know about the sweeteners, and will cut out all Diet Coke and tonic water today, and switch exclusively to water. But could those alone have prevented weight loss? Or is it just a bit early in the process. I really would've thought I'd notice something by now.

B plain full fat yogurt+ 3 coffees with almond milk (+sweetener)
L salmon, egg, green beans, salad leaves, spring onions, mayonnaise
D salmon, green beans and asparagus in butter

Snacks: 2 hard boiled eggs, 3 bags of cheesies (0 carbs)

Negatives: I drank a lot of Diet Coke and diet tonic water.

Hi @Jiminny

Yes, I would have expected you to see some progress in a week - but it's impossible to be certain or guarantee what should happen!

A lot of it depends on what your diet was like before, how often you're dieting, etc.

Looking at your menu for one day, that all looks OK to me - although it's difficult to tell quite how much fat you're eating. What about the other days' food? It's hard to tell just looking at one day.

BUT

Where's your water?! And why are you using sweeteners? That's not allowed on Bootcamp.

There's all sorts of conflicting information about artificial sweeteners, but there is some suggestion that they 'trick' the body into thinking it's getting sugar, and so can spike an insulin response - which is what we're trying to avoid.

... so definitely cut those out!

[BrassicaBabe]

I've dropped 3lb over night. BUT it's dehydration! I jumped off the wagon last night on day 35 and had a drink. (Wine and gin) I've said it before, I'll say it again. I AM NOT A MODERATOR Man alive I feel like crap!! Definitely back on the wagon today (we all know that's not envy!)

Nice one one the job front Devon

[Laska2Meryls]

Grrr lost a post last night just as I was about to send it , then gave up.
But anyway it was saying that I have had a pretty strict week as with DH being away Its easier just to have something simple like fish and courgettes and not bother with anything else. Ive bern following 16:8 .but have been eating some berries ( mostly as breakfast ), and they dont seem to be problematic.
Anyway yesterday I made spicy chicken wings ( we are lucky enough to get local free range chicken, so they are big) using Barts fajita spice mix (which is sugar free, a lot of the package ones are not btw) . So spicy and crispy .. had those with salad , forgoed the salsa .. yum yum.
Ihave also continued to avoid alcohol, so all I have had in the last 7weeks is 1 glass of white and 1 red on Saturday and Sunday last week . Major achievement for me !
Scales are down I am🤞they still will be tomorrow.. but I am definitely fitting onto a lot of my smaller summer stuff now ..

[MrsKoala]

@ealingwestmum I was brought up in Chiswick and Brentford so I know Ealing well. My parents moved to Gunnersbury/Kew when I moved out.
Friendly folk here for London though I’m biased of course but I think Londoners are generally friendly (just not chatty) but I do think West Londoners are the friendliest.

Yesterday I weighed myself and had put on 2lb to be 12st :( then I went to the loo and after I was 11st 11lb I only go about once every 4-5 days now so I’m only weighing after I’ve been in future. Sorry tmi I know.

[Rshard]

Congratulations devoncreamtea!

[venusandmars]

Great news devoncreamtea (the job, not the wee'd on socks!)

Struggling with the scales and not losing at all. Not enough water, definitely, possibly too much dairy currently watching the sunset with a glass of wine and a hunk of cheese My dsis is coming to stay in 3 weeks time, need to lose some of the tummy before that. She is stick thin and has always looked disapprovingly at my much rounder body.

[devoncreamtea]

Thanks for thinking of me nowlook 😊 I did get the post - 0.8 so 1 day off and additional training in dyslexia support. I’m pleased!
So so tired as on Dartmoor last night and it was freezing. Never been so cold and didn’t sleep a wink!!! Plus - took my son for a quick wild wee during the night and he weed on my warm socks so I had to take them off!!!🥶

[OVienna]

Thanks 8Track