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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 2 - May '19 LC Bootcamp - my favourite week!

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BIWI · 19/05/2019 22:01

Starting tomorrow's thread early as I'm not around in the morning

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

So far there seem to be some great results already, so I'm hoping they've continued over the weekend.

I love this week because the first weigh-ins are often spectacular, but also all those who were less than convinced are amazed how much they've lost!

It really sounds to me like people have really got to grips with this WOE, which is fantastic.

Here's to you all, and wishing you a good result on the scales tomorrow. (Or with the tape measure or the clothes you're trying on, if that's your preferred method of monitoring progress!)

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devoncreamtea · 21/05/2019 10:50

Good news on the bra band size shrinkage bluelefant Smile. For me, lising a few cup sizes is the most motivating thing - I have had a bad shoulder and chest for years now due to big boobs/breast feeding/ not supportive enough bra etc - not to mention the desire to own an attractive bra!!!!
Sorry to hear that you are poorly rainbowhash it’s so miserable being in hospital. I think you should give yourself a chance to recuperate however you need to, certainly don’t put tons of pressure on yourself to lose loads weight this week, then when you are feeling stronger and have had a few decent nights sleep I am sure you will find the motivation to carry on where you left off. Flowers

Ninkaninus · 21/05/2019 10:54

Yeast reacting and releasing toxins actually makes perfect sense given the extreme bloating - you would usually feel less bloated on lowcarb vs carb eating.

KOKO Buckles - you’ll get there.

HypatiaCade · 21/05/2019 11:01

@DrBuckles - Have you considered that you might be a little bit lactose intolerant? If you've generally steered clear of yoghurt and are now having it a lot more that might be what's triggering it. Most people get diarrhoea from lactose intolerance, but my DS and I get a swollen belly and constipation. It's a known side effect, but poorly studied medically, I could only find one medical study and that's for those with IBS. They think it might cause methane to develop in your stomach.

Poor DS, JUST from daily porridge, as he doesn't like milk and cheese generally, he had the most enormous swollen tummy, which went away completely swapping to lactose free, as did the need for prescribed laxatives (paediatrician didn't even spot this!).

I use lactase enzyme drops and add it to liquid dairy. With milk they say 10 hours, so I leave it a day for yoghurt. I just bought my drops from Amazon.

HypatiaCade · 21/05/2019 11:05

My appetite has really decreased this week. Is this normal so early on? I ate yoghurt for breakfast because I HAD to eat (or face the wrath of BIWI and her stick), not because I was all that hungry.

However I've never really drank much water, just lots of tea, so that might also be helping.

B: Yoghurt with cinnamon.
L: Salad with fiery chicken
D: Not sure....

Ninkaninus · 21/05/2019 11:08

Losing appetite is great and yes, it’s normal at this stage (that’s why you no longer have to eat breakfast after the first two weeks - lots of people find that they no longer feel the need to).

It’s a good sign that your blood sugar levels have stabilised, and that your body is accessing fat for fuel.

limberlost · 21/05/2019 11:14

Broccoli my carb of choice!

blackteaplease · 21/05/2019 11:15

I'm loving the photos from those of you brave enough to post them. I have one on my phone with measurements of arms, thighs, hips, waist, underbust and bust to check against but I sure am not putting them on t'internet. My first mini goal is to reduce the double boob effect, I'm too stingy to buy new clothes when I don't intend to stay at this weight.

Ninkaninus · 21/05/2019 11:16

Oh that’s interesting, the lactose intolerance hypothesis.

You glean so much knowledge hanging out on these threads!

HypatiaCade · 21/05/2019 11:18

blackteaplease - I'm stingy too! I just went out and bought a belt this morning, to keep my trousers up until I've lost so much weight I start to look like a clown in my clothes! Grin I'm certainly not shopping for every size down, or buying any new clothes at this size.

HypatiaCade · 21/05/2019 11:20

Ninkaninus - I'll bet that up until now a lot of people have been avoiding dairy to stay low fat. Going high fat will have dramatically increased the dairy consumption, and if anyone has a mild intolerance, they may only have just started to feel the effects now.

Ninkaninus · 21/05/2019 11:25

Yes, it makes sense.

BIWI · 21/05/2019 12:23

Goodness what a lot of posts to catch up with Grin

@RainbowHash I'm so sorry to hear you're poorly. Sad. But it won't be a change of diet that's cause an infection. Focus on getting well and don't stress too much about the diet until you're home

@DrBuckles - sorry you're feeling ropey as well. I'm guessing it's about a switch away from carbs to a fat-based diet. I might think about cutting down the dairy and see if it helps.

@VeryLittleOwl - you're brave to post pictures! But it's a great way to keep yourself focused and motivated

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ChippingInLowCarbing · 21/05/2019 13:05

limberlost. As a non egg eating vegetarian my choices are limited 😖 there’s very very little that’s carb free. If I don’t eat things like broccoli I’ll be FOOD free 🤣. I do include as much lower carb veg as I can, but I LOVE broccoli.

The Herxheimer Reaction is interesting and worth reading more about.

Low Carbing sorts out my Candida (I’m diabetic so very prone to it when eating carbs, it loves the sugar!!). Within a few days of eating LC it goes. Bliss.

Ninkaninus · 21/05/2019 13:06

Lunch today:

I approximated a minestrone with various things that needed using up:

Inner celery stalks and leaves
One small leek
Last bit of parsley stalks and leaves (wasn’t nice enough to use raw)
A few ladle-fulls of leftover ratatouille
Chicken stock
Small handful of smoked prosciutto
Five chipolata sausages cut into pieces
Extra clove of garlic (crushed) and half a bag of salad leaves added at the very end
Parmesan to serve!

Delicious!

Week 2 - May '19 LC Bootcamp - my favourite week!
Ninkaninus · 21/05/2019 13:25

Must add I didn’t eat all of it myself! This fed two people, generously.

MrsBertBibby · 21/05/2019 14:33

Hang on , is broccoli not low carb ?

DrBuckles · 21/05/2019 14:35

Thank you all for your messages. I’m a bit teary this afternoon, partly because you are all so nice and partly because I hurt!

I have wondered about lactose intolerance- I do feel my best when I’m eating a plant based diet Which would fit. However I always slip into overly sugary ways on that and so it’s not the best for weight loss.

Also interesting about the yeast- I’m a big uti sufferer and the last time I had to go for antibiotics the gp gave me thrush medication too- is that kind of thrush the same as the kind that would cause probs dietarily (ie. if it’s in one place could it be all over?)

Ninkaninus · 21/05/2019 14:36

Broccoli is very low so I wouldn’t worry! 1.1g per 100g. 👍🙂

Ninkaninus · 21/05/2019 14:38

Awww Buckles don’t cry!

Sounds to me like you should knock the yogurt on the head and see how it goes.

Do you like eggs? They make a great breakfast. Or you could try skipping breakfast altogether (with BIWI’s blessing for special circumstances) if that suits you better?

ShagMeRiggins · 21/05/2019 14:41

Ninkaninus I love your food photos.

For everyone, massive congratulations and admiration for first week weight losses. It’s impressive stuff.

For myself, I haven’t weighed in this week because I felt crap and fat and mentally it will be better to weigh next Monday and put our Eurovision party back in the box. Hmm

There’s so much I wanted to add to individual posters, but I’m on a phone and it’s hard, y’all!

I believe all bootcamp participants should take a fulll-body selfie at each weigh-in and measure at the start of bootcamp. BIWI suggests this, along with the idea of a target garment, but it should be strongly, strongly recommended. (Probably already is!)

Nobody has to share, but there’s no denying the power of inches/cms for those who are numbers-driven (when the scales aren’t cooperating) or the power of images for those who respond to more visual results.

For me, there’s nothing as inspiring as the visual. I bloody love this group.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/05/2019 14:44

Broccoli is very low

Broccolini, or sprouting broccoli is even lower I think. And even nicer.

DrBuckles I felt horrible last BC with lack of sleep and other stuff. It took ages for the insomnia to go and I did wonder if I'd have to give up. Sorry you're feeling rough. This time it was very short.

18pagesfrontandback · 21/05/2019 16:16

Buckles There was some good stuff posted upthread, or might have been on week 1, about the body’s reaction to the death throes of yeast dying off as a result of a low carb diet. The gist being that when the sugar train stops, the Candida flares up in protest and makes you feel rotten before whimpering away. To. It’s. Death.

Very interesting stuff. I’m hoping it helps my problem.

It’s similar to the theory that because our bodies’ store toxins in our fat cells, when we burn fat, those toxins are flushed out at the same time. This can make you feel a bit rough and things can flare up including bad skin (etc.) while this happens. Apparently it can also account for some of the extra whiff emitted through pores.

It’s sounds very similar to the Candida/thrush theory in that the symptoms are a result of the body purging itself of all the badness and side effects of a carby/crap diet. Kind of - it gets worse before it gets better and so on...

I’m now telling myself that this is why I’m having the mother of all colds Hmm. Am thinking of the ketones and trying to stay zen.

There was also some very interesting stuff on the last boot camp about how the body enters repair mode on this woe (which it suggests can account for lack of movement on the scales while it holds on to water/focuses on healing during first few months).

So perhaps your body is looking at that old Achilles injury, and your griping back too, causing a little discomfort in the process?

I think insomnia is quite normal for some people at first. Generally though, after a while the majority tend to experience better sleep quality. So hopefully that will be short lived for you too?

*I am no expert I just like to tell myself that everything is a sign of something good happening Grin even if it’s only wishful thinking The power of positive thinking and all that!
(Obviously this doesn’t mean ignore or dismiss things if they persist and you are uncomfortable, or you really suspect something is wrong)

m0therofdragons · 21/05/2019 16:16

Dh has a cold/man flu. I'm such a cow but I managed to sound sympathetic. Inwardly I'm thinking of all the stuff I'll have to do because he has another condition which means he never just has a little cold. I'm definitely not nurse material!

Haven't drunk enough yet today as I've been in meetings but will get on it once I'm home!

18pagesfrontandback · 21/05/2019 16:18

Your soup looks delicious Ninkanius
I really need to make myself something like that for dinner.

1Wildheartsease · 21/05/2019 16:46

Just saw your belly-pork crackling @MrsTerryPratchet - do give your recipe- it looks wonderful. Smile