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Week 1 - May Low Carb Bootcamp - off we go!

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BIWI · 13/05/2018 21:42

There are over 220 of us signed up for this Bootcamp, which I'm fairly sure must be some kind of record!

I'm starting this thread this evening, so that you can have a chance to read it, but also because I have an early start tomorrow, and won't have the time in the morning.

So, firstly, here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness Many, many thanks to @AthelstaneTheUnready and @TimeIHadANameChange for offering to help out with this Flowers

When you click on the link, please look for the tab at the bottom that says 'May weigh-in'. There's still a tab to the last Bootcamp which we can't seem to delete - but your name will be on the May one.

Tomorrow, you enter your weight OR if you wish, you index it, which means that you start off at 100. For every pound you lose, you take one away. So if you start at 11 stone 13 pounds, and lose 5 pounds in the first week, then your second week you'd enter 95.

OR you don't have to be on the spreadsheet if you don't want to.

If you don't enter your weight for a couple of weeks, then we'll take you off the spreadsheet altogether.

If you find your name isn't on the spreadsheet, don't panic!. Just add your name at the bottom, and then it will be re-alphabetised later.

And here are the rules

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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TheOnlyPink · 14/05/2018 10:13

biblio afaik you can use other vinegars, so red wine vinegar, apple cider vinegar etc.

DirtyNell · 14/05/2018 10:15

Hi All, I've been doing boot camp myself for about 6 weeks, and am down 7 lbs. I was 11:10, and am now 11:3, and back into all my size 12 clothes, which was my aim.

I went to boots to check my height ( so my bmi would be accurate, and I'm 5 7 1/2, with body fat of 33%. Is like to get my body fat down and maybe weight of 10:10.

I've usually lurked on these threads, over these last few years, but this is the first time that I've successfully lost a chunk of weight that's significant enough for friends and family to comment on. These are the things that I think have made the difference this time:

  1. Having read old threads, and the explanations from StuntNun, and BIWI, I really committed to eating FAT!!! Somewhere in my deluded head, I had always believed that I could low carb, but that if I ate a little less visible fat, I would lose weight faster. This never worked!!
Once I started roasting skin on chicken thighs, and delicious pork belly, and making gorgeous cauliflower soup with big wodges of feta sprinkled in, the weight started melting away.
  1. Water, water, water! I bought a huge mug in Sainsbury's ( it's a white porcelain one)that holds 500ml, and I make sure to have 4 mint teas every day. I keep the tag from each teabag on the side to keep count. Along with my morning coffee and a bottle of water in the car, I hit my 3L no prob.

3.OnceI was doing it for 2 weeks, I added in 16:8, which has evolved into 18:6, so I eat lunch at one, and am finished eating dinner by 7pm. The whole idea of the kitchen being closed to any evening snacking has really helped. My appetite has reduced massively.

I have been so helped by reading other people's contributions, and the support is so brilliant, I look forward to being part of it .

TimeIhadaNameChange · 14/05/2018 10:19

biblio - if I can be bothered I'd chop up a garlic clove and mix that with olive oil, a little mustard powder and salt and pepper.

What I usually do is sprinkle some herbs and salt over my salad (today I've got oregano, but mint really jazzes a salad up imo) and then sprinkle some olive oil over.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 14/05/2018 10:19

Hooray for clothes, Bert! Gin

I am in a summer dress that I haven't been able to wear for 2 years, and it's loose! A wonderful day for starting on too - it's sunny here and my garden looks like a Lenor (other brands available) advert with white washing on the line, in front of a bright yellow field of oilseed rape, in front of a green and luscious wood, all under a deep blue sky. Bliss

AthelstaneTheUnready · 14/05/2018 10:19

Grin! [ grin ], not gin!

Rshard · 14/05/2018 10:24

Weighed in now, so starting my third boot camp at 10,1 which is exactly how I finished my second to I’m happy with that. One more pound and that will be 2 stone lost on this woe, 2 more pounds and I’m in the 9’s so they’re my mini goals for now.

BIWI stuntnun and other wise boot campers, a question please. I’ve maintained since the end of last boot camp, despite having the odd carb. I’m being strict now so wondering if I should expect a whoosh, I don’t really mind but I don’t want to be disappointed/derailed. I know we’re all different but any thoughts? I’m about 8lbs from my goal if that has any impact.

Hope everyone’s enjoying day 1. Prepare to get pretty evangelical about thisnwoe!!

DramaAlpaca · 14/05/2018 10:31

I'm on the spreadsheet at 100 as I'm just not brave enough to post my actual weight on there. Kudos to all you ladies who have done so.

I've eaten breakfast, which is a result in itself for me as I don't usually bother. I had some lovely full fat Greek yogurt and a couple of slices of cold roast beef. Also tea with almond milk, which tastes absolutely fine.

The biggest challenge for me, apart from breakfast, is going to be drinking enough water. When I'm busy at work I forget to drink. Anyway, I've had two pints already this morning.

AromaticSpices · 14/05/2018 10:45

Excited to start today.

A question though, don't think it's been asked yet. I know BIWI says that it's really important to have three meals a day. But I've had real success with intermittent fasting (16:8, so 16 hours fasting each day). This essentially boils down to skipping breakfast and fasting from evening meal until lunchtime. I find this works well for me, if I have breakfast I often get REALLY hungry and make all bad choices before I've even got to lunchtime.

So is there any reason I can't do IF alongside this? I've not eaten yet and I'm really not hungry, I don't want to eat for the sake of it.

Plan for today:

L: ham salad
D: home made chilli with veg (brocolli or maybe cauli rice) OR Omelette depending who is around for dinner
S: hard boiled egg / celery, salt and mayo

Where do we stand on crabsticks? Can't see them on the spreadsheets and am rather partial Blush

Sosogoodagain · 14/05/2018 10:49

@dramaalpaca

I understand totally where you are coming from. In my case, I'm afraid that by ignoring the number, it's gotten ever bigger. Not saying for a minute that you should be doing the same, just another perspective I guess.....

Some lovely posters around pg5/of the thread have been kind to me about my shame. I'm going to send their sentiment to you with bells on xx

ClaudiaNaughton · 14/05/2018 10:53

I’m really stupid, I can open the spreadsheet but can’t add my 136. I’m on my iPad. Does it work with this? Please help.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 14/05/2018 10:57

Claudia - I've added your weight to the spreadsheet.

JuneBalloon · 14/05/2018 10:57

@AromaticSpices My DH and I do the keto diet and try to fast intermittently (it's meant to be the ideal combination), but still eat 3 meals a day. He 'skips' breakfast (he has a bulletproof coffee) then has his lunch about 1130 am (the previous night's leftovers), a hefty mid afternoon snack about 3pm (hard boiled egg, handful of nuts, cheese cubes and cherry tomatoes, olives etc), then home for dinner at 7pm. I'm a SAHM so it's easier for me...

Scabbersley · 14/05/2018 10:59

dirtynell we are the same height but I am much heavier than you are, at 12.4. Started BC in October at 12.13, got down to 11.13 then put half a stone back on over a holiday and a period of illness. I looked so much better at 11.13 and people started to notice.My goal is 11.7. Great idea about the mugs of mint tea!! What a good way to make sure you get your water. I am going to try that.

limberlost · 14/05/2018 11:01

Aromatic** I do 16:8 too. It works for me as once I start eating I don't stop! I am currently trying to make myself have breakfast. I have had 2 pints of water and 2 mugs of strong black coffee.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 14/05/2018 11:01

Aromatic - I know BIWI has said in the past that skipping breakfast is fine after the first two weeks of BC (ie once you're used to low-carbing). I'm hoping my addition of a light supper will count (still means I'm eating three meals a day, and will leave me fasting for 15 hours). Let's wait and see what she says (sorry, no help whatsoever!).

Reason I wanted to reply to you was that I'm glad it's not just me who gets hungry having eaten breakfast. It's something I've noticed for years, that, whatever I do eat first thing (carbs, fats or whatever) I get really hungry by 10, but if I hold off I can wait til 1 o' clock or later and not get the same desperate feeling. No idea why this is, but really glad to see I'm not alone!

limberlost · 14/05/2018 11:02

Bold fail . How do I do it on my phone, please?

ClaudiaNaughton · 14/05/2018 11:06

Thanks Time but it’s gone on to all the columns. Can I do this myself on iPad?

FlowinElla · 14/05/2018 11:09

Morning all! Wow, this thread is busy Grin

FuriousFifties, I can vouch that LC helps with hot flushes / night sweats. Or is it the other way round: high carbs (and alcohol) make hot flushes happen (for me). I'm in my forties, but I've got menopausal symptoms from Tamoxifen - hoping that strict BC will help with the cycle that's gone AWOL too.

AromaticSpices, IF and LCHF go together really well, as fat keeps us satiated so it's easy to fast. However, if you haven't been on LC before, your body needs time, and food energy, to convert from burning sugar (carbs) to burning fat. That is why it's recommended to eat 3 substantial meals per day for the first couple of weeks. I have made that mistake myself, in the past, wanting to hurry my weight loss - I got too hungry and binged instead!

This is my third week already, but the first of strict BC (I have had some nuts/ almond butter and sweeteners which I'm hoping to get off of). Drinking water at full speed!

Good luck everyone!

TimeIhadaNameChange · 14/05/2018 11:11

Claudia - not sure what you mean as it looks fine to me. I'll call @AthelstaneTheUnready and see if she can fix it.

You should be able to do it on the iPad, but I know it can sometimes be awkward.

Bluntness100 · 14/05/2018 11:13

Rshard, you might do, it's hard to predict.

Good gym sesh here. Feeling motivated to get the last bit off. Also I feel much healthier low carb.

I suspect I may have a problem with gluten. When I decide to come off this way of eating I don't really eat a lot of gluten to be honest, it's more sugary crap and if I do eat foods with gluten it's not much really. However following pizza last night I had such terrible stomach cramps this morning to go with the aforementioned shits (sorry again) and my husband is fine.

I suspect it's one of those eliminate things from uour diet, and then reintroduce them and see the effect. I'm not sure if it's gluten or wheat or whatever, but something doesn't agree with me.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 14/05/2018 11:14

Hi Claudia, it's because there are two 'starting' columns (as in the previous BCs).

That's so people who started a week (or more) early can record the weight they started at (column C), and the weight they are today (column D).

For those starting today, I've just put the same weight in both columns so it doesn't do weird things to the formulas.

I'm assuming that's why column C was originally included!

AthelstaneTheUnready · 14/05/2018 11:17

Blunt, I'm with you. I never thought I had a problem with wheat, until I gave it up for bootcamp. Since then, I've not had One Single Mouth Ulcer, and I used to get them weekly.

I've also found that if I do have a slice of bread, or something with flour in, my belly swells up massively by the end of the day and I get the same next morning effects in the bathroom.

That's enough for even me to notice and cut it out entirely, bootcamp or not! Grin

Rshard · 14/05/2018 11:17

Put asterisk either side of the word you want in bold limber or an @before the word.

Thanks blunt, like I said I won’t be disappointed

DramaAlpaca · 14/05/2018 11:20

Thanks for the good wishes, Sosogoodagain, much appreciated.

I hadn't weighed myself in a long time, but on Friday I finally replaced the batteries in my scales and hopped on. Eeek! Shock I know exactly what I need to do now.

FlowinElla · 14/05/2018 11:25

Athel, thanks for that, I didn't realise that was the purpose of column C! Blush Off to update it with my real start weight from 2 weeks ago.