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Low-carb bootcamp

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Week 1 - May Low Carb Bootcamp - off we go!

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BIWI · 13/05/2018 21:42

There are over 220 of us signed up for this Bootcamp, which I'm fairly sure must be some kind of record!

I'm starting this thread this evening, so that you can have a chance to read it, but also because I have an early start tomorrow, and won't have the time in the morning.

So, firstly, here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness Many, many thanks to @AthelstaneTheUnready and @TimeIHadANameChange for offering to help out with this Flowers

When you click on the link, please look for the tab at the bottom that says 'May weigh-in'. There's still a tab to the last Bootcamp which we can't seem to delete - but your name will be on the May one.

Tomorrow, you enter your weight OR if you wish, you index it, which means that you start off at 100. For every pound you lose, you take one away. So if you start at 11 stone 13 pounds, and lose 5 pounds in the first week, then your second week you'd enter 95.

OR you don't have to be on the spreadsheet if you don't want to.

If you don't enter your weight for a couple of weeks, then we'll take you off the spreadsheet altogether.

If you find your name isn't on the spreadsheet, don't panic!. Just add your name at the bottom, and then it will be re-alphabetised later.

And here are the rules

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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BIWI · 14/05/2018 20:18

Phew! All caught up now Grin

If I've missed anyone, apologies.

here's my meals today:

B - none (am a serial IF)
L - ball of mozzarella, one vine tomato and fresh basil leaves, all chopped up together, with a green salad and lots of oily dressing
D - roast chicken (and lovely skin!) with baby courgettes and asparagus, griddled in olive oil, with mustard and a large dollop of mayonnaise.

I've only had one cup of coffee today, which is very unusual for me, and have already had 2 litres of water.

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PuddingAndHotMilk · 14/05/2018 20:20

@BIWI you are amazing. Thank you!

That is all Thanks

Justmuddlingalong · 14/05/2018 20:24

Have drunk so much water, my eyeballs are floating. Just sneezed and had to get changed. Blush

blackteaplease · 14/05/2018 20:27

Today's food
B: 3 eggs scrambled with butter, 2 creamy coffees
L: tuna salad with extra veg
S: cheese and chorizo
D: chorizo goulash soup

Need to drink a bit more water but I'm feeling pretty good.

UterusUterusGhali · 14/05/2018 20:27

Evening all!

Just marking place. :)

God I wanted a wine tonight.

farine · 14/05/2018 20:27

Thanks BIWI really helpful!

For dinner this evening I had slow roasted lemon and garlic chicken thighs (skin on) with home made coleslaw. Was delicious.

The lemon and garlic chicken recipe is a Nigella tray bake one, minus the white wine, if anyone wants to try it. Takes about 2.5 hours to cook but is so full of flavour it's worth it if you have time. Feels very healthy and special.

Normally have it with a tomato salad but need to check carbs on cherry tomatoes and other varieties first as they are so sweet they must be carbs!

One and a half more glasses of water and I can go to bed!

YoucancallmeVal · 14/05/2018 20:45

I'm a joiner but not a long-time joiner in , but just to say to those who have asked about PCOS - my last scan showed NO SIGN of cysts despite having PCOS diagnosed years ago and requiring fertility treatment to get pregnant. No sugar has reversed the cysts, I get no acne and my hairiness has diminished enormously. Not saying this works for everyone but in my experience it changed my life. It is noticeable that if I lapse hugely my periods go crazy again. This woe minimises them (to normal for most people!) and they are now every 4 weeks.

ilovecherries · 14/05/2018 20:47

Wow, it’s a busy first day. I’ve been shopping in London all day, now on train home, fighting off Virgin’s free booze, cheese sandwiches, crisps and muffins!

Twoo · 14/05/2018 20:52

Just’ your phrasing made me lol Grin

limberlost · 14/05/2018 20:54

BIWI Thank you. I meant no sugar in the gherkins.(Senior moment) They are a Spanish make and reading the label it says 0.6 carb per 100g. The yoghurt question has been answered thanks again

Honkyponk · 14/05/2018 20:59

It sounds like everyone is being inventive with their menu options! I definitely think this is a great opportunity to eat better as well as lose weight. I'm in at 164 this morning, Hoping to be back to pre baby weight for holiday in August
B: Avocado with a spoon
L: mozzarella and tomato salad with olive oil and lots of seasoning
D: salmon, poached eggs and asapargus (with mayo for dipping)
I'm working tomorrow so prob take a smoked salmon salad for lunch.
Hope no one wakes up in the night dreaming of pasta 😀

Destinysdaughter · 14/05/2018 20:59

farine that chicken recipe looks lovely! I googled it and saved it.

FYI a good way to save recipes ( if you can't pin them ) is to use the app Copy Me That, it's a great way to save recipes so you don't forget them!

AthelstaneTheUnready · 14/05/2018 21:00

Look at us all! One whole day in and no big stick yet!

Seafour · 14/05/2018 21:00

Cherries shopping in London sounds fab, what did you buy?

Rayna37 · 14/05/2018 21:01

@farine you can do a marathon without gels too! DH had been achingly close to sub 3hrs for some time and finally managed it about 5 years ago with low carb; I just checked and apparently he had one gel in his pocket "just in case". He's done several since without. If he does an ultra he generally fuels with real food like cheese and pork pies. If you're into podcasts (not everyone's thing I know) they discuss it quite a bit on Marathontalk, and Prof Tim Noakes is a good resource.

I've got a 5k on Friday so no gels needed there just some courage: it's a proper fast local one where roughly as many people go sub -15 as take over 30 minutes and in my post-baby state I'll be even closer to the back than usual! That'll teach me to enter a waiting list thinking I'll never get a place.

SummerRayne17 · 14/05/2018 21:03

Thanks for clarifying @BIWI not counting carbs makes life easier!

StuntNun · 14/05/2018 21:05

Athelstane the optimal macros for Low Carb High Fat are approximately 5% carbs, 25% protein, 70% fat but bear in mind that some of that fat macro will come from your own fat stores so it works out at something like 25g carbs, 125g protein, 100g fat. The UK daily reference intake for fat is 78g so even on a "high fat diet" you aren't actually eating a whole lot more than the recommended amount. BUT you don't need to work out your macros or count calories as the Bootcamp rules sort that out for you. Chattycatty your macros are okay although the fat is a bit on the low side. but 1002 calories isn't enough so I hope you have more food planned today. As a rule of thumb I don't like to see people go below 1400 calories unless it's exceptional circumstances.

NorthernKnickers , EightFaces and JuneBalloon don't worry about how much you're eating at this stage. It's much easier to avoid bad food when you're full of good food. Your appetite will dramatically reduce over the first couple of weeks of Bootcamp. I still remember the first time I accidentally skipped a meal - that definitely wouldn't have happened while I was still hooked on sugar.

GeneandFred a lot of people mix vanilla paste or vanilla powder into Greek yogurt. You can add a spoonful of double cream which makes it taste sweeter. When we're into Bootcamp Light I love Greek yogurt with a few berries and a small piece (5-10g) of dark chocolate either grated or chopped finely with a knife.

SociallyAcceptable my two youngest DCs had those allergies as well and it did make my food pretty boring for a while. I ended up eating pork belly for breakfast quite a bit because it's not processed like bacon. I bought one of those George Formby Grills Grin to make a quick breakfast. Otherwise, leftovers are your friend for breakfast. When I first started Bootcamp I used to make extra chicken legs, veggies, etc. so I always had something to grab for breakfast or a snack.

Athelstane have you heard of fermented cod liver oil and butter oil for tooth enamel? There's a whole world out there of holistic dental treatments. PM me if you want more information, or start a new thread somewhere and tag me in it.

JuneBalloon I suspect that we need supplements more that most people realise. I recently figured out that I was low on magnesium (I was having fatigue, palpitations and muscle cramps) and probably had been for over 10 years, from well before I went low carb. Most people in the UK could probably do with supplementing with vitamin D as well. I take a multivitamin plus extra vitamin D and magnesium glycinate (which makes me sleep like a baby.) While I try to get all the micronutrients I need from food, I take the multivitamin as a back up. That company I linked to earlier, Thriva, have an Advanced package which tests for vitamin D, vitamin B12, and iron (as well as cholesterol, liver function and diabetes) which might be informative for some people.

Limberlost I make my own yogurt too and leave it for longer to break down the milk sugar even more but I like it sour so I don't mind.

Farine you can use the gels for your half if that's what you've been training with. As you say, they glucose will be burned off over the course of the race. Once you're completely fat adapted (which may take a month or more) then you won't need them and you'll probably find it easiest to run in a fasted state.

AveAtqueVale · 14/05/2018 21:07

Going to try to log food on this boot camp - I’ve never remembered to before but I think it might help.
B: creamy coffee
L: bunless Big Mac with side salad and a Diet Coke (didn’t think to get water - will do next time - but I didn’t steal any chips from DH air DS!)
D: two (small) pork loin steaks with a fried egg and fried mushrooms and masses of spinach wilted in butter, and a dollop of mayonnaise.
S: a roll of cheese and salami (know it’s too processed - using it up!), and about half a packet of pork scratchings.
Not enough water, especially considering I did a two mile run for the first time ever, so have a slight headache.

Well done to everyone who’s stuck with it, the first few days are always the worst!

TheMonkeysOnTheTable · 14/05/2018 21:10

Thank you so much Biwi.

I’ve eaten way too much today I think.
Breakfast: creamy coffee
Lunch: pork meatballs and Asian salad
Dinner: chicken and bacon salad with a sort of Caesar salad dressing.
However .... I felt so hungry at the end of work so ate my lchf snack (m&s cheese wrapped in ham) but think I ate too many. Dinner was 3hrs later and to be honest I was still full from the cheese.
I’ve drunk quite a lot of water didn’t measure it so will start that from tomorrow.

Well done on day one everybody.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 14/05/2018 21:17

Athelstane have you heard of fermented cod liver oil and butter oil for tooth enamel? There's a whole world out there of holistic dental treatments. PM me if you want more information, or start a new thread somewhere and tag me in it.

Ooooooh, tell me more, @StuntNun! I've read some basics, but not sure I've fully understood it. Will PM you - many thanks!

JuneBalloon · 14/05/2018 21:24

@BIWI @StuntNun Thank you!

LlamaFarma · 14/05/2018 21:26

Just popping in to say hi.

I started a couple of weeks ago and am firmly in keto so I'm doing a sort of version of light.

Weigh in this week at 185 down from 195 two weeks ago!

Today I've had:

B: Matcha smoothie thing with yoghurt and almond milk.
L: courgetti carbonara
D: ham salad with pesto dressing
S: Square of chocolate, cube of cheese

I'm going to Rome for a wedding later in the week (hence the Diet) so I know I'm going to do some drinking but going to do my best to stay low carb.

Thanks again BIWI!

Titsywoo · 14/05/2018 21:31

I'm joining in! I signed up for the last bootcamp then got ill and never got around to starting :(

Weighed in today at 14st 2.5.

B - Two eggs scrambled with tumeric and cumin, smoked salmon
L - Heck sausages with mashed broccoli and butter
D - Steak cooked in EVOO with runner beans and a fried egg
S - Two thin slices cheddar

TheMonkeysOnTheTable · 14/05/2018 21:31

Oh by the way I had this easy chicken and asparagus dish last week and it was really tasty. I’ll definitely be making it a few more times over boot camp.
www.lecremedelacrumb.com/one-pan-garlic-herb-chicken-asparagus/

Lonesurvivor · 14/05/2018 21:32

I'm loving all the different meals so much I'm screen shotting as I go along. I'm very pleased too to hear turnips are lower carb. When I boil bacon I throw them in for extra flavour.

My blood pressure which was down after a while doing the blood sugar diet is up higher than ever today. I've been adding salt this last few days after avoiding it for ages, maybe that's not the right thing to do for me. I've also got a kidney infection and possible kidney stones, so I'm hoping today's reading is due to that or white coat syndrome. I'm getting a 24 hour monitor on me this week so I'll know soon enough.
I was very pleased this morning to be a couple of weeks into this and have no cravings or hunger because I think he I heard all that on day one of BC, my emotions would've had me turning to food. I haven't thought or felt like comfort eating all day which is alien to me when I'm fed up. First time in my adult life actually!