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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread

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prettybird · 01/01/2018 18:37

Although Boot Camp only starts formally on the 8th, people have asked for an introductory thread, so that they can get prepared. I may not be BIWI but she has lent me her Big Stick Grin However, this week, there shouldn't be any need for the Big Stick: you can ask questions and seek advice so that you can hit the ground running.

NB: I am not medical (nor is BIWI ) so if you have any medical issues, you should seek suitably qualified advice. This is a Way of Eating that has helped me lose 3 stone since May, without ever feeling hungry Smile - and there are many other success stories.

Someone (and I am sure she will remind me again who she is Blush) said on the last Boot Camp or the one before that even if a goal seems a long way away, and as such potentially unachievable, the time will pass anyway, whatever we do. So if we want to change things, we may as well start.

I am posting a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness from the last Boot Camp - but only so that you can access the tabs where there are various resources: carb values for veg, reading to do, and some recipes (although there is also the Boot Camp recipe thread to go to) For the moment, ignore the names on the Weigh-In tab - @SayrraT will be producing a new spreadsheet with all those that have signed up in time for the official start next week.

Here are The Rules you need to follow for the first two weeks of Boot Camp. This gives your body a chance to "fat adapt" and for you to learn to eat because you are hungry, not because you crave carbs/sugar. As you get used to this Way of Eating (WoE), you will be amazed to find how often you are not hungry. You will find your fat stores give you sufficient energy.

For newbies, it is important to eat 3 meals a day - even if it is just a nominal breakfast/bulletprooof coffee (coffee blended with butter). Otherwise, you may find that hunger - or habit - will lead you to fall face first back into carby twatdom and then you need to start that process of fat-adaption all over again. Some of us who have now been low carbing for a while have found that we can follow 16:8 fasting or even the occasional 24 hour fast - but this is not something to be done in the early weeks.

So, here are the Rules. After 2 weeks 1 (or whoever takes over the next stint of the BIWI Replacement Programme Wink) the rules will be posted for Boot Camp Lite. Many of us who are still actively trying to lose weight tend to follow Boot Camp during the week (maybe with extra berries and nuts) and then allow a small amount of alcohol at the weekend)

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
"You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)"
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
"The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt."
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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YoLoHogwomanay · 05/01/2018 09:12

morning everyone. this thread has been busy the last few days!

I saw Rosemary Conley say on the BBC a couple of days ago (on a diet programme can't recall the title) that carbs have 4 cals per gram and fat has 9 cals per gram so she will support low fat eating until she dies. i wanted to punch her in the face. Ignorant cow. I bet she is either naturally thin, starving all the time, or has to exercise like crazy just to maintain normal eating. Must remember that her millions came from selling her stupid diet food and franchising her diet clubs. She cant admit it's all based on lies can she. And if people didn't keep getting fat again after being on her diet then they wouldn't keep returning and paying club fees again and again. Gives me the rage.

As you were.

prettybird · 05/01/2018 09:25

I've been on a pre-Boot Camp WoE (plenty of water but still some nuts while I finish off the "killer almonds" that I made for the Festive period ) and have already lost a few of the pound I put on over Christmas.

It means that I won't get the big initial "whoosh" - but there again, having been on Boot Camp a while even if I went a bit off piste over Christmas I shouldn't expect one.

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StuntNun · 05/01/2018 09:50

Weebarra I mix this eye-wateringly expensive vanilla powder that I bought in Waitrose into Greek yogurt. It's pricey but you only need a tiny amount so a tin lasts for ages.

MrsReynolds you'll need to check the labels to find low carb soups but all supermarkets have some good options. The only downfall is they tend to be low fat so I add some butter when I'm having them.

StuntNun · 05/01/2018 09:52

I completely forgot why I came on the thread in the first place! Wildlings have a 20% discount on duck crackling using the code QUACKLING at checkout.

Rshard · 05/01/2018 09:59

I have that same vanilla powder, weebarra and stuntnun I agree it’s expensive but you don’t need much I find.

prettybird, I’ve also clambered back on the wagon this week and the Christmas gain is coming off so I’m not expecting a whoosh either. To be honest I’ll be happy to start this bootcamp the same weight as I finished the last one. So I’ll consider losing the Christmas gain my whoosh!

prettybird · 05/01/2018 10:10

I doubt I'll be able to start at the same weight I finished the old one (although maybe as I did the Egg Fast after the Boot Camp) Blush

Still, I'll have the "pleasure" of breaking through the 12 stone barrier again Wink

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BerylStreep · 05/01/2018 10:17

I put on 2 kg over Christmas, and I have lost 1kg of it since getting back on the wagon on Monday.

My ketosis seems to be a bit random. Stick went dark red Tuesday night, and I was impressed I got back in to it so quickly. But it has returned back to zero or trace in the interim. This morning it had climbed to 'weak'.

I know you don't need to be in ketosis for this to work, but I really need the visual feedback of the ketostixs.

Yesterday was:

B: scrambled egg with coconut oil and 2 bacon rashers
Late lunch: 3 celery sticks and venison pate
D: The chicken casserole I posted yesterday

3 x coffees (1 decaf) with unsweetened almond milk and a dab of cream. Not enough water.

Am thinking of making the salmon and feta bake in the IPD cookbook tonight.

SayrraT · 05/01/2018 11:13

Ooh, thanks stunt I've been meaning to try them for a while.

For the bullet journal lovers I've added this page to mine....

New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread
OldBooks · 05/01/2018 11:40

Love that Sayrra! Where did you get the print out of the woman? I may will steal it for my BuJo...

SayrraT · 05/01/2018 11:49

I Googled "fat female outline" Grin I intend to change to "slim female outline" at some point.

Alwaysinmyheart · 05/01/2018 12:01

My dp is also on a diet, he’s doing SW, I really wanted him to do this with me but he’s scared about the high fat content as he has stents in his chest. I wish I could persuade him it’s perfectly safe as he eats loads of sugar which I believe is much more dangerous!

JourneyWithMe · 05/01/2018 12:54

Hello everyone!

I lurked on the May bootcamp thread and lost 2 1/2 stone, then fell off the wagon spectacularly and put it all back on again over the next few months.

Back on it again now. I am so miserable on carbs. I can't stop eating when I am on carbs, I crave crap and get fatter and fatter :( For me, low carb has to be for life. My trip-up is bad planning - for eg I fell off the wagon last time because we were camping, had noro and couldn't find anything to eat. then was in denial for the next 3 months as I slowly but steadily put ALL the weight I had lost back on.

I started on 31st December at 19st 10; the heaviest I have ever been. My target is 10st7lb. I am 5 ft 5.

I am 19st 2lbs now - lost 8 lbs in the past 6 days :). It's all water, but still - I feel better!

Breakfast: Spinach omelette
Lunch: Leftover broccoli and cauliflower gratin (yesterday's dinner)
Tea: Will be chicken casserole.

I have a big holiday coming up at the end of July. I am aiming to be under 16 stone by then.

Target for the end of the year is 13 stone. I've also signed up for weekly counselling to help me.

Great to hear all your stories. I recognise a lot of names from the may bootcamp - amazing to see all the successes (and reassuring to see some fellow backsliders too!)

mrsreynolds · 05/01/2018 13:01

With me it was family bereavement and then having to have my gallbladder out...
So the 20lbs I lost is now very much back on :(
Just about to go grocery shopping for lots of low carb food!
I'm going to be honest and say last time I followed dr John briffas plan "escape the diet trap" and I'm going.to do that again but i.hope.im still allowed to post and get tips on here?? 😁

lisbapalea · 05/01/2018 13:35

Think someone upthread asked for favourite recipes - this is one of mine and the rest of the family love it. My kids call it 'pizza chicken' as it does just taste like pizza! I usually go light on the sundried toms in my portion!

I have now stuck to the plan solidly since Monday and I am so pleased!

My only cock up was toay's salad choice at M&S which I realised included a balsamic vinegar dressing. Hoping that isn't enough to derail completely...

I also ordered new digital scales which arrived yesterday and I will be using from now on. I weighed myself on Monday morning on the old school analogue scales at 13st 6, then weighed yesterday evening on the new scales, after 4 days of saintly eating, and weighed 13st 9! - How flipping rude. Weighed again on the new scales this morning and was 13st 5.8 which was a relief, but I couldn't believe that my weight could fluctuate by 3lbs within a day!

Anyway, that was a bit of a ramble but I will stick to the new scales from now on as I like the accuracy and I never really trusted the old scales which I think gave me some falsely positive results some weeks.

lisbapalea · 05/01/2018 13:35

might help if I added the recipe I was recommending:

damndelicious.net/2014/11/22/chicken-sun-dried-tomato-cream-sauce/

BrassicaBabe · 05/01/2018 14:26

Oh my good lord ...duck crackling?!! Yep, didn't get past that post!! Grin

Gammeldragz · 05/01/2018 15:00

journey welcome back (for good this time!)
lisba evening weight is usually 2-3lb heavier than morning anyway. I'll look at recipe later, sounds good.

Had bacon with sprouts cooked in the Bacon fat this morning (with mayo). Really tasty. Just had a slice of DP's latest omelette, only one slice as it has macaroni and chicken Kiev in it!
sayyra love the BuJo page.

EeeSheWasThin · 05/01/2018 15:53

Hi everyone, I have caved badly, not so much over Christmas but New Year whilst staying with relatives. Ready to start again as my insides are behaving very badly and I did feel so much better.

Have namechanged but SarryaT may remember me for the porridge question 😉...I’ll change my name on the spreadsheet.

Grimbles · 05/01/2018 15:54

Do you literally just chop the sprouts and fry them in a pan or do you need to pre-boil them first?

Rshard · 05/01/2018 16:51

I might steal that for my bump sayyra

Your holiday sounds a great incentive journeywithme

lisbapalea, I always try to weigh at a similar time of day too, to be consistent. Oh and that recipe sounds yummy

ragz brussels and bacon - nom nom

Gammeldragz · 05/01/2018 17:11

grimbles I halved them, nuked them for a few minutes with a few tbps of water then fried.

BlackMozart · 05/01/2018 17:12

This post is especially for anyone living in the Cambridge area. I had lunch with DH today at The Red Lion at Granchester. We love it there especially in the summer because it is close to the river. Anyway he had a burger with smoked cheese that he said was great but I had roasted cauliflower with kale and tenderstem broccoli a few pomegranate seeds and dukkha (?) - which was a sprinkling of herbs and spices. It was DELICIOUS and I told them so! Not cheap at £11.50 but I felt like I had something special. It’s from their Detox menu and may just be an in the week thing so worth checking. I couldn’t really find anything else to have as their food is lovely but quite expensive and always includes some form of carbs so this was a real find.

ASDismynormality · 05/01/2018 17:54

I ate way to many berries and it's yesterday, was very stressed and found my comfort in food - I haven't done that for a a long time but at least my choices were ok LCHF wise.

I really need to go for it next bootcamp as we are going on holiday to the US the week after bootcamp ends and I want to feel good in the photos!

halfwitpicker · 05/01/2018 17:54

Ah OK, so this is the preparatory thread. Signed up on the other one already.

I'm all in for next week. Been out for a treat breakfast today (cheese and mushroom omelette, potatoes, toasted baguette if you're interested), eggs and Greek yog here we come next week for brekkie!

Good luck folks.

BadlyParkedRangeRover · 05/01/2018 19:30

Annoyingly I've had to have some tyrozets. They contain sucrose- but my throat was so sore I couldn't really swallow Sad

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