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Low-carb bootcamp

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New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread

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prettybird · 01/01/2018 18:37

Although Boot Camp only starts formally on the 8th, people have asked for an introductory thread, so that they can get prepared. I may not be BIWI but she has lent me her Big Stick Grin However, this week, there shouldn't be any need for the Big Stick: you can ask questions and seek advice so that you can hit the ground running.

NB: I am not medical (nor is BIWI ) so if you have any medical issues, you should seek suitably qualified advice. This is a Way of Eating that has helped me lose 3 stone since May, without ever feeling hungry Smile - and there are many other success stories.

Someone (and I am sure she will remind me again who she is Blush) said on the last Boot Camp or the one before that even if a goal seems a long way away, and as such potentially unachievable, the time will pass anyway, whatever we do. So if we want to change things, we may as well start.

I am posting a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness from the last Boot Camp - but only so that you can access the tabs where there are various resources: carb values for veg, reading to do, and some recipes (although there is also the Boot Camp recipe thread to go to) For the moment, ignore the names on the Weigh-In tab - @SayrraT will be producing a new spreadsheet with all those that have signed up in time for the official start next week.

Here are The Rules you need to follow for the first two weeks of Boot Camp. This gives your body a chance to "fat adapt" and for you to learn to eat because you are hungry, not because you crave carbs/sugar. As you get used to this Way of Eating (WoE), you will be amazed to find how often you are not hungry. You will find your fat stores give you sufficient energy.

For newbies, it is important to eat 3 meals a day - even if it is just a nominal breakfast/bulletprooof coffee (coffee blended with butter). Otherwise, you may find that hunger - or habit - will lead you to fall face first back into carby twatdom and then you need to start that process of fat-adaption all over again. Some of us who have now been low carbing for a while have found that we can follow 16:8 fasting or even the occasional 24 hour fast - but this is not something to be done in the early weeks.

So, here are the Rules. After 2 weeks 1 (or whoever takes over the next stint of the BIWI Replacement Programme Wink) the rules will be posted for Boot Camp Lite. Many of us who are still actively trying to lose weight tend to follow Boot Camp during the week (maybe with extra berries and nuts) and then allow a small amount of alcohol at the weekend)

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
"You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)"
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
"The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt."
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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prettybird · 04/01/2018 15:50

Even though I've talked about the veg that I like, I do still struggle to have enough.

Courgette "carbonara" is one dish I like. Shepherd's Pie, with hidden veg in the mince and a celerias/cauliflower/carrot (whatever I have in), egg, cream cheese/yoghurt & parmesan mash is another. Mkaing sure I cook too many celeriac chips/brussel sprouts/roasted broccoli means that I can pick at the cold veg the following day and up my intake that way.

Making up a soup with lots of low carb veg is another way I try to force myself to have more veg. Tom Kerridge's book has some nice looking soups I'm going to try. I sometimes make cauliflower rice while dh and ds have a Lidl curry - although more recently, I've just been microwaving myself a big bowl of sprouts to ds' disgust Wink

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abbey44 · 04/01/2018 15:50

I've not tried microwaving sprouts yet, but will give it a go. I've been stir-frying mine in butter (shredded or chopped up) with lemon zest grated in and then a splash of lemon juice at the end. They're delicious - and that's coming from someone who had to force herself to eat the smallest, single ritual sprout at Christmas under sufferance (and a roast potato) for most of my life. Sometimes add in some crispy bacon lardons or pine nuts / flaked almonds too.

mrsreynolds · 04/01/2018 16:19

Love sprouts but they don't love me anymore sadly 😣

Scabbersley · 04/01/2018 16:28

I love love love tuna salad with the waitrose posh mayonnaise. Lettuce celery cucumber, avacado and a tin of tuna with lots salt, pepper and that mayo

Scabbersley · 04/01/2018 16:28

I eat a plate of microwaved sprouts most days!

Rshard · 04/01/2018 16:59

I have exactly that most days for lunch at work scabbersley

mrsreynolds · 04/01/2018 17:06

Which is the lowest carb soup?

prettybird · 04/01/2018 17:16

I need to have a look at TK's book for more inspiration but dh tends to like chunky soup and at the moment I have a whole lot of ham stock from making a glazed ham for Christmas, so I will be chucking some shallots, some celeriac, some leeks, some white cabbage and because dh insists a few carrots into it. That should last a few lunches! Grin

Another River Cafe recipe we used to like making was a fennel soup: boil up some sliced fennel in (good) chicken stock and then serve with some ricotta cheese on top and drizzle with olive oil and a few fennel fronds (supposed to be on top of a slice of toasted ciabatta scraped with garlic - I suppose after the first 2 weeks, could try doing that with half of a Lidl high protein roll - but I am going to try it without the bread)

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BerylStreep · 04/01/2018 17:16

I'm eating this tonight, from the Whole30 newsletter:

Ingredients
1 1/2 lbs skin-on chicken thighs
salt & pepper
3 Tbsp ghee
3 cloves garlic, minced
1/2 cup mushrooms, sliced
1 to 2 cups broccoli, chopped
1/4 tsp red pepper flakes
1 cup chicken broth (double check the ingredients!)
1/2 cup full-fat coconut milk
1/3 cup julienned sun dried tomatoes
1/2 tsp each: salt, black pepper
1/4 tsp each: dried thyme, oregano, basil
handful fresh parsley, chopped

Instructions
PREHEAT the oven to 400ºF. Pat the chicken thighs dry, and season with salt & pepper. In a large oven safe skillet, melt 2 tablespoons of the ghee over medium high. Add the chicken, skin side down.

COOK each side until golden, about 2 to 3 minutes per side (it doesn’t have to cook through). Remove the chicken, setting it aside on a plate. Melt another tablespoon of ghee in the skillet. Add the garlic, red pepper flakes, mushrooms, and broccoli, and cook for 1 to 2 minutes.

STIR in the chicken broth, coconut milk, sun dried tomatoes, and dried herbs and spices. Bring the sauce to a low boil, then reduce to simmer until the sauce begins to thicken, about 3 to 5 minutes.

ADD the chicken back to the skillet and place the entire pan into the oven. Bake until chicken is cooked through, about 25 minutes. Serve hot topped with fresh parsley.

BerylStreep · 04/01/2018 17:18

I also have an awesome spiced cauliflower soup recipe

Gammeldragz · 04/01/2018 18:28

I had cauliflower cheese, celeriac chips and roast kale for dinner. Gorgeous...

OldBooks · 04/01/2018 18:34

Agh you are all making me hungry with these food ideas. I can still barely swallow and have been in bed all day Sad

prettybird · 04/01/2018 18:40

Sorry you're still not well Oldbooks . hope you feel better soon. Smile

Isn't this WoE fantastic though, that here we are describing all these lovely foods that are compatible with HFLC Smile

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MaudesMum · 04/01/2018 19:06

Thanks LeapinLizards - look forward to hearing more about the Rose Eliot book!

Someone was asking about soup - there's a cracking broccoli and blue cheese one on the recipe thread, but also in the Guardian today - really lush. I also like roasting squashes and then adding them to garlic and onions with a bit of stock and then pureeing. I'm a great fan of batch cooking, and I tend to make soup once or twice a week and pop it in the freezer in lunch-sized portions - means I don't end up eating the same one every day..

OldBooks · 04/01/2018 19:33

Pretty it is great!

Re vegetables one of my favourite things to do - bearing in mind that I have little time for proper cooking - is to rough chop courgettes, aubergines and green peppers, maybe shallots, whatever I have really, slug a load of oil and seasoning then bung in slow cooker. By time I get home they are soft and oily, then you can do various things - sprinkle with cheese, add to omelette or have cold in packed lunch.

And YY to breakfast being FF Total yog with cream or creme fraiche mixed with bit of cinnamon. Easy to put in pot for work and very tasty.

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 04/01/2018 19:51

I'm trying to ease my way into low carb this week in prep. Sort of bootcampish lightish.

I really need to do better to kick my Diet Coke habit this time as well. I managed ok for about three weeks last time then caved.

Lunch- chicken bacon and avocado salad
Dinner- Nando's butterfly chicken with salad and corn on the cob.

I did pinch a couple of chips but at least I didn't have my own!

BrassicaBabe · 04/01/2018 19:52

Ooh, another good chicken recipe. Thanks

BerylStreep · 04/01/2018 19:54

BrassicaBabe it was lovely. I might have overcooked the broccoli a bit, but still lovely. Did enough for tomorrow night as well.

BerylStreep · 04/01/2018 22:10

Timbuktu if you try putting an old 2p into a glass of Diet Coke overnight and see what it does, it would make you go off DC pretty quickly!

HattietheManatee · 04/01/2018 22:35

Hey all, this is my first boot camp. I started a LCHF diet on Boxing Day, I was 10 7 and a week on have lost 5lb. Am amazed how I’ve gone from dodgy blood sugar and needing to snack every couple of hours to feeling full for ages - and all within the first day!

Target weight is 8 st 7 (I’m 5ft 3) and I would like to be 9st 4lb by the end of boot camp. I’m on mirtazapine for depression so my weight loss might be slow at times and I don’t want to feel discouraged.

I’ve been following the India Knight idiot proof diet - there seem to be a few minor differences in approach, so I have a few questions if that’s ok. Why are nuts banned? And do you have to move to maintenance after a couple of weeks or is it ok to stay strict?

I realise reading the rules I need to reduce my processed meat consumption and also increase my veg intake.

I have a diary on the weight loss chat board if anyone wants to follow/ say hi!

BlackMozart · 04/01/2018 22:50

Thanks rshard for the tip re the Asian fish cakes in Jamie Oliver - will check that out!
maudesmum I’ve got Rose Elliot’s book too as I want to do more things with veg but haven’t got round to it yet.
ASD I’ve been using the celeriac rice from Waitrose for a while now. I cook it all then blend using a stick blender with butter, Boursin and black pepper and usually eat about a third or a half with some sort of meat. Then for breakfast or lunch day next day I fry the rest into little cakes and eat with a fried egg. Yum.

BlackMozart · 04/01/2018 23:00

hattie I followed the Idiot Proof Diet a few years back and did well with it. I stuck to phase 1 for the whole time (at least 12 months) but added in dark choc, and wine and occasionally berries.

I assume the bootcamp no nuts thing is just because although they are good on this woe they are v calorific and although we’re not counting calories some people can stall if they eat too many. Bootcamp is designed to be strict at least for the first couple of weeks but after that as in the notes some people choose to do bootcamp in the week and bootcamp lite at the weekend to allow for a few nuts, dark choc etc. I think experimenting and seeing what you lose, or not may help.

I also eat too much processed meat - it’s just so quick and convenient when I don’t have a lot of time - so I am trying to remember that too.

prettybird · 04/01/2018 23:18

Welcome hattie - and congratulations on your achievement so far FlowersStar

BlackMozart is correct : nuts aren't allowed in the first two weeks unless you are veggie because they are very calorie intense and it is too easy to over-eat them without actually being hungry. Ditto with seeds (including flaxseed).

The two weeks allows you to get used to HFLC and gives both your metabolism and your brain the chance to get used to this WoE - and to both learn to eat and only want to eat when you are actually hungry - which won't be as often Smile

Even after the first two weeks, nuts should be eaten in moderation. I have two Brazil nuts a day because I read somewhere that that is good for selenium, which in turn is good for your thyroid function - and combatting depression.

I also sometimes have macadamia nuts but even though they are one of the "best" nuts for HFLC, I still find it easy to have just a few more.....and then a few more ....and then a few more Blush I'll occasionally have a few almonds (but have the same risk as the macadamia nuts Blush fortunately I'm not that keen on Brazil nuts Wink)

Hope that helps Smile

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SayrraT · 05/01/2018 07:30

2lbs down already Grin though still 9 heavier than my BC lowest Hmm

I'm just pleased that I'm less than I was this time last year (22 lbs less). Even if I 'just' lost 22lbs each year I'd eventually (in 2 or so years) be a healthy weight. That's excellent Smile

Gammeldragz · 05/01/2018 07:48

Well done Sayyra. Smile
I'm still 6lb off my absolute lowest and 4lb over my pre-Christmas weight. But 41lbs less than a year ago, so it's all good.

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