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New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread

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prettybird · 01/01/2018 18:37

Although Boot Camp only starts formally on the 8th, people have asked for an introductory thread, so that they can get prepared. I may not be BIWI but she has lent me her Big Stick Grin However, this week, there shouldn't be any need for the Big Stick: you can ask questions and seek advice so that you can hit the ground running.

NB: I am not medical (nor is BIWI ) so if you have any medical issues, you should seek suitably qualified advice. This is a Way of Eating that has helped me lose 3 stone since May, without ever feeling hungry Smile - and there are many other success stories.

Someone (and I am sure she will remind me again who she is Blush) said on the last Boot Camp or the one before that even if a goal seems a long way away, and as such potentially unachievable, the time will pass anyway, whatever we do. So if we want to change things, we may as well start.

I am posting a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness from the last Boot Camp - but only so that you can access the tabs where there are various resources: carb values for veg, reading to do, and some recipes (although there is also the Boot Camp recipe thread to go to) For the moment, ignore the names on the Weigh-In tab - @SayrraT will be producing a new spreadsheet with all those that have signed up in time for the official start next week.

Here are The Rules you need to follow for the first two weeks of Boot Camp. This gives your body a chance to "fat adapt" and for you to learn to eat because you are hungry, not because you crave carbs/sugar. As you get used to this Way of Eating (WoE), you will be amazed to find how often you are not hungry. You will find your fat stores give you sufficient energy.

For newbies, it is important to eat 3 meals a day - even if it is just a nominal breakfast/bulletprooof coffee (coffee blended with butter). Otherwise, you may find that hunger - or habit - will lead you to fall face first back into carby twatdom and then you need to start that process of fat-adaption all over again. Some of us who have now been low carbing for a while have found that we can follow 16:8 fasting or even the occasional 24 hour fast - but this is not something to be done in the early weeks.

So, here are the Rules. After 2 weeks 1 (or whoever takes over the next stint of the BIWI Replacement Programme Wink) the rules will be posted for Boot Camp Lite. Many of us who are still actively trying to lose weight tend to follow Boot Camp during the week (maybe with extra berries and nuts) and then allow a small amount of alcohol at the weekend)

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
"You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)"
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
"The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt."
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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ASDismynormality · 03/01/2018 13:43

I have the Tom Kerridge book and from what I remember he sweetens with honey so not so strict low carb.

I had a subway salad for lunch today, they are really good value!

Rshard · 03/01/2018 13:46

Thanks ASD, there might be the odd low carb recipe on the show as I’m not sure it’s completely aligned to the woe he followed.

prettybird · 03/01/2018 14:03

I think he also uses artificial sweeteners - but the book will still be good for inspiration. goes off to retrieve it from under the Christmas tree to have a browse Xmas Wink

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FurryTurnip · 03/01/2018 14:46

Just popping in from the last bootcamp maintenance thread to say hi and wish you all luck for the next round.

Not that I miss this thread or anything....

BadlyParkedRangeRover · 03/01/2018 19:06

I've read the Tom Kerridge book, he sticks to under 90g of carbs a day - so a lot more than bootcamp!
Day 3. I have any awful cold/tonsillitis thing. Still on nights too
B: 3 eggs, smoked salmon and cream cheese
L: asleep
D: 2 x lovelife 'bread' butter and marmite. FF greek yoghurt and double cream, creamy coffee.
Nights lunch: brocc and stilton soup, cheese cubes
S: packet of pork scratchings
After yesterday's appetite loss i am hungry!

cafeaulaitpourvous · 03/01/2018 19:54

I am here! Just signing in for another boot camp

Lost 17lbs last time

Put on 4lbs over Christmas

I now know gluten especially makes me very ill - I have had terrible abdominal pain and I am pooing 15 times a day (yes I get up in the night)

Can't wait for next Monday!!!
28lbs to lose

cafeaulaitpourvous · 03/01/2018 19:56

And I hope @C4rollinandventing is feeling better

JumpingintoLCHF · 03/01/2018 20:20

When will this boot camp end?

JumpingintoLCHF · 03/01/2018 20:21

Is it 19th March?

ilovecherries · 03/01/2018 20:24

I'm watching Tom Kerridge, but I'm moving away from the tv because I'm actually finding it quite triggering. It's reminding me of years of low fat, calorie counting torture. I can never go there again. The thought of trying to make diet muffins or rice pudding is making me quite tearful. I did every one of these things, and more.

ilovecherries · 03/01/2018 20:26

And it never worked. I just got bigger :(

toomuchicecream · 03/01/2018 20:28

3 days down. Training all day today was deadly but I went armed with pork scratchings and emergency almonds so passed the tub of Celebrations straight on. Just got to keep on winning one day at a time!

Rshard · 03/01/2018 20:34

I didn’t manage to watch it all ilove. I’m sorry it made you feel like that but you should take great comfort from where you are today - in control and inspiring others!

Today’s food
B - scrambled eggs salmon
L - tuna salad mayo
D - chorizo omelette with rocket

Less eggs tomorrow but a quick turn around tonight to get dd to swimming. I’ll plan better for next Wednesday.

headoutofthesand · 03/01/2018 20:37

I watched it ilove and was a bit disappointed. Surely not eating a muffin at all would be better than eating one with 200cals, even if that is fewer calories than a typical muffin.

Rshard · 03/01/2018 20:41

I agree headout, I’m very much an all or nothing eater. I used to do ahem.... WW and I never understood purchasing fake chocolate bars and crisps.

princessbear80 · 03/01/2018 20:45

Prettybird you’re making me want to shop at Lidl.

Lisba I’ve had that pork belly from Ask, it’s delicious.

Love the name change Crispy!

Right so I’m two days back on the lchf, feeling better already. Had cheesey sprouts yesterday, love them. Today’s food:
B - ff yogurt
L - salad with chicken, bacon, mayo, avocado
D - haddock with salad with feta in it and olive oil. Wasn’t filling enough, might have a lump of cheese too.

princessbear80 · 03/01/2018 20:46

The amount of WW food I’ve bought in the past! No taste to any of it! Never again.

Gammeldragz · 03/01/2018 21:27

3rd day back on, lowest carb day so far.
Breakfast- scrambled egg with butter and gammon
Snack- chili peanuts (needing finishing) bit of cheese.
Dinner- celeriac gratin, roast kale and gammon.
Dessert- More celeriac gratin.

Have had my 2l of water (on top of over a litre of black coffee which I figure must count?) for the last 3 days. Peeing for England today so hoping for a whoosh tomorrow.
ilove just pity the fools and be thankful for your enlightenment.
rshard yup. If you're gonna eat crap, at least eat the good crap. Over Christmas I made the sugary treats that I overate (mostly) rather than scoffing rubbish chocs from tins and crappy supermarket mince pies. At least the 7lb I gained was worth it!

prettybird · 03/01/2018 21:46

I was disappointed in the Tom Kerridge programme: having just looked at his book and been impressed with its ethos (very similar to HFLC - decreasing the "usual" filler carbs, but increasing vegs - using oils and full fat Greek yoghurt and enjoying the crispy skin on meat and fish - as well as pork scratchings Wink), I found the "low fat, calorie counting" focus of the programme very disconcerting - even if he is putting together flavoursome dishes. Confused

It makes me wonder if the BBC would only accept a "diet" programme that aligned with current government guidelines, rather than his own experience that led to a loss of 11 stone. Hmm

I found myself mentally adapting the Southern baked chicken recipe: using chicken thighs with skin on, full fat Greek yoghurt for the marinade, some flaxseed, almond or coconut flour instead of the flour in the coating. Then it would be HFLC compatible Grin

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BlackMozart · 03/01/2018 21:53

I have the Tom Kerridge book but haven’t made anything from it yet. Agree he does big portions and higher carb levels but I imagine I could adapt recipes I like the look of. His new series and book seems to be aimed at those who don’t want to give up eating carbs so it looks like he is trying to cover the low cal market as well. Maybe he is genuinely trying to find a way to help everyone. He always comes across as a decent bloke.
Today I ate
B scrambled egg and bacon and a coffee
L ‘sandwich’ using lettuce for the bread and filled with cheese, a bit of chicken, a bit of ham and mayo. Water, Coffee
D pork chop,with leeks in mustardy cream sauce, 2 squares dark choc, 2 large glasses of water and another coffee, and a handful of pecans
Too much processed meat today and by Monday I need to drop the choc and nuts but I’m getting back into it.

Great name crispychickenskin 😀

BlackMozart · 03/01/2018 22:03

prettybird I think you might be right about the TV programme. It is very confusing that the book which led to him losing 12 stone did not have a TV tie in, but the new book which is not what he follows himself, does. I saw him on BBC breakfast this morning and read the article in Sunday Times and he chose low carb because as a chef it meant he didn’t have to stop eating butter, cream etc. He also gave up drinking completely as well.

I got another three cookery books for Christmas (I do love them so family always buy them for me) - Nigella’s, Jamie’s 5 ingredients, and Hugh F-W’s Much More Veg - so will need to work out what can fit in to this WOE.

prettybird · 03/01/2018 22:21

You're right JumpingintoLCHF - final weigh-in will be on 19th March, with the last full week (Week 10) of Boot Camp being w/c 12 March.

There will as usual be an ongoing chat/support thread.

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Pumpkintopf · 03/01/2018 22:37

Hi everyone! Good to be here, already seeing loads of good advice, thanks so much. Excited to be starting on this journey.

Pumpkintopf · 03/01/2018 22:40

I agree on Tom Kerridge, it's disappointing that he's going on the low fat route on the programme.

notapizzaeater · 03/01/2018 22:47

I tried to buy the new dopamine book but it's out of stock on amazon for 2 months ???

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