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New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread

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prettybird · 01/01/2018 18:37

Although Boot Camp only starts formally on the 8th, people have asked for an introductory thread, so that they can get prepared. I may not be BIWI but she has lent me her Big Stick Grin However, this week, there shouldn't be any need for the Big Stick: you can ask questions and seek advice so that you can hit the ground running.

NB: I am not medical (nor is BIWI ) so if you have any medical issues, you should seek suitably qualified advice. This is a Way of Eating that has helped me lose 3 stone since May, without ever feeling hungry Smile - and there are many other success stories.

Someone (and I am sure she will remind me again who she is Blush) said on the last Boot Camp or the one before that even if a goal seems a long way away, and as such potentially unachievable, the time will pass anyway, whatever we do. So if we want to change things, we may as well start.

I am posting a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness from the last Boot Camp - but only so that you can access the tabs where there are various resources: carb values for veg, reading to do, and some recipes (although there is also the Boot Camp recipe thread to go to) For the moment, ignore the names on the Weigh-In tab - @SayrraT will be producing a new spreadsheet with all those that have signed up in time for the official start next week.

Here are The Rules you need to follow for the first two weeks of Boot Camp. This gives your body a chance to "fat adapt" and for you to learn to eat because you are hungry, not because you crave carbs/sugar. As you get used to this Way of Eating (WoE), you will be amazed to find how often you are not hungry. You will find your fat stores give you sufficient energy.

For newbies, it is important to eat 3 meals a day - even if it is just a nominal breakfast/bulletprooof coffee (coffee blended with butter). Otherwise, you may find that hunger - or habit - will lead you to fall face first back into carby twatdom and then you need to start that process of fat-adaption all over again. Some of us who have now been low carbing for a while have found that we can follow 16:8 fasting or even the occasional 24 hour fast - but this is not something to be done in the early weeks.

So, here are the Rules. After 2 weeks 1 (or whoever takes over the next stint of the BIWI Replacement Programme Wink) the rules will be posted for Boot Camp Lite. Many of us who are still actively trying to lose weight tend to follow Boot Camp during the week (maybe with extra berries and nuts) and then allow a small amount of alcohol at the weekend)

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
"You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)"
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
"The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt."
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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JumpingintoLCHF · 03/01/2018 22:49

Thanks Pretty bird.

TitusAndromedon · 03/01/2018 23:03

Hello! I’m really looking forward to starting LCHF again. I last did a boot camp three years ago in preparation for a trip to Thailand. I found out I was pregnant the day we left, and a few weeks later found out it was twins! They are now two and, although I’ve dabbled in a few diets over the last couple of years, I haven’t committed to anything and the weight has been on and off. I’m excited to get started on Monday because I know this way of eating works for me and makes me feel good. I’m also really hoping to find the time to work more exercise into my life, which I find challenging. I’m feeling positive and motivated, though, so I’m excited to make this work.

prettybird · 03/01/2018 23:06

Dh bought me my copy of Tom Kerridge's Dopamine Diet but don't know if he did so via Amazon or from Shock a real book shop Wink I saw it first in Waterstone's.

We can play a game (all except ilovecherries because of its triggering element Sad) when watching the BBC programme: how can we adapt the recipes to make them more HFLC compatible? Wink

We also can compare how much the participants lose compared to the Boot Campers Grin I'm sure we'll have a better long term success rate, not having to constantly devise tasty meals while feeling hungry Hmm

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MaitlandGirl · 03/01/2018 23:13

StuntNun I hadn’t thought to try unsweetened almond milk, I’ve got some in the fridge.

I drink a ridiculous amount of tea, even more now I’ve stopped smoking but I don’t have sugar anymore and have gotten down to only a splash of milk in each cup.

Day 4 of not smoking, not eating carbs, not eating sugar (apart from the emergency piece of fruit instead of a smoke), not eating chocolate, not drinking any alcohol AND walking on the treadmill everyday.

I’m either going to be slim and healthy for my wedding or dead within the week!

JumpingintoLCHF · 03/01/2018 23:14

Good idea! Just watched it on iplayer and liked the cameraderie of his "gang". That team support is a huge factor isn't it? I'm sure that's a big part of how I lost a stone last boot camp.

lisbapalea · 03/01/2018 23:26

I agree with what everyone has said about the TK programme. Irritating that he was banging on about low fat yogurt and 1 cal cooking spray which totally contradicted what he said in the Sunday Times article. Like the idea of working out how to tweak his recipes though...

Today:
B - coyo with flaxseed and some cocoa nibs, plus a coffee with ff milk
L - an Ikea egg and prawn sandwich without the bread, plus salad from dd1's sandwich, plus an extra salad with leaves, olives and olive oil
D - chilli with lettuce, avocado, cheese and sour cream. I picked out the kidney beans and gave them to dd2 who loves them.

A fair few glasses of water plus a peppermint tea this evening.

Back to work tomorrow and tragically thinking that the routine will be good for my eating habits!

BerylStreep · 03/01/2018 23:26

I have a number of go to recipe books for Bootcamp.

Idiot Proof Diet cookbook by India Knight et al

Whole30 and Whole30 cookbook

Zoe Harcombe Diet Cookbook

I've noticed that the more recent Nigella books such as Kitchen also have a lot of suitable recipes.

Lots of paleo recipes on blogs can also be quite good, so long as you don't choose ones which use honey, agave or lots of fruit.

Pumpkintopf · 04/01/2018 00:10

@BerylStreep thanks for those suggestions, I'll check them out-definitely need to widen my repertoire...

ilovecherries · 04/01/2018 00:32

I will enjoy the recipes after you adapt them. Honestly, I felt myself becoming irrationally upset as he started to bang on about ricotta and elmlea and one cal. That's what my kitchen looked like in the bad old days. It just transported me right back to the despair I used to feel trying to exist on 1200 calories and just getting fatter. Then the total disbelief at how easy it actually was when I stopped eating bloody carbs three times a day.

prettybird · 04/01/2018 00:53

I've adapted my mum's fantastic lasagne recipe to be low carb. All I had to do was replace the lasagne sheets with courgettes as it doesn't use a Bechamel sauce, instead using ricotta (but I use full fat cottage cheese which is just as good and cheaper Wink) mixed with a beaten egg, mozzarella and Parmesan, layered with the ragu and courgettes (and herbs). So a bit like his "one layer lasagne" but better! Grin

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Rshard · 04/01/2018 04:31

I’ve got that Jamie Oliver’s book blackmozart, I’ve adapted a few recipes to low carb. The Asian fish cakes are delicious

blackteaplease · 04/01/2018 07:45

Hi everyone. I'm looking forward to next week, carb creep struck over Christmas and I need this thread and the stick to get me back on track.

Gammeldragz · 04/01/2018 07:51

2.2lbs of my Christmas gain have gone so far. Despite two squares of dark choc last night (needs eating before bootcamp).

I have a Tom Kerridge book on kindle but I wasn't keen on it, I'll have another look.

cherrytree63 · 04/01/2018 09:19

I think I'll struggle with eating breakfast tbh.
I loosely followed low carb three years ago, lost (and kept off) 3 stone.
I took Paul McKenna's advice, eat only when hungry, stop when full.
I'm never hungry until about 1/2 pm ish.
But when I was running (and I'm just gearing up to start again), I'd have a banana about 40 minutes before as I have GERD and it just helped with the acid (i also take omeprazole).
I'm reluctant to eat breakfast if I'm not hungry. One of the reasons I started ballooning was when I worked on a ward with unpredictable break times, so I'd eat at every opportunity just in case I got hungry (there was always cakes/sweets/fruit on the desk, stuff you could wolf down in 5 seconds).

TheHoundsofLove · 04/01/2018 09:56

Good morning all. I'm looking forward to starting boot camp next week. In preparation, I'm giving up added sugar and alcohol this week, in the hope that it'll ease my body in a bit more gently. Feeling strangely positive though! I just know that something has to change and I need to start feeling good about myself - I'm a serial yo yo dieter and it needs to stop.

ASDismynormality · 04/01/2018 10:05

Look what I found in Waitrose today, celeriac rice!

New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread
Alwaysinmyheart · 04/01/2018 10:06

So day 1 of low carb went well! I had

Pigs in blankets with scrambled eggs with cheese and herbs

Chicken with salad and home made garlic mayo

Made chocolate brownies with cocoa, almond flour and Splenda and had it with cream, yum!

I do like the fact that you can actually make delicious desserts on this diet, makes it much more bearable!

Alwaysinmyheart · 04/01/2018 10:06

Ooh celeriac rice! But...does it taste nice?

Alwaysinmyheart · 04/01/2018 10:12

This website is a good resource and has some great tips on baking!

low-carb-support.com/low-carb-baking-problems/

BadlyParkedRangeRover · 04/01/2018 10:13

I'm watching Tom Kerridge and he isn't tasting the high carb food!
the dirty rotten low carb sellout

ASDismynormality · 04/01/2018 10:16

always. Will have it for dinner with some pork belly and let you know.

Pumpkintopf · 04/01/2018 10:17

Morning all! Checking in.

@prettybird that lasagne sounds delicious!

BadlyParkedRangeRover · 04/01/2018 10:17

So still poorly. Clinging to LCHF!
B: livlife 'bread' FF cream cheese and smoked salmon. Not ideal but i don't have the energy for anything else
L: I'll be asleep
D: Butter chicken and caul rice.
I'm drinking a fizzy orange drink (sweeteners, not sugar!) As it's the only thing that is making my sore gunky throat better. I resisted the lockets/soothers I'd usually fall on!

MaudesMum · 04/01/2018 10:28

I've got TK's recipe book and have only really done one recipe - the one for chili con carne - which was very nice, although quite complicated. It all seems a bit faffy for me. Has anyone else used the Rose Elliot low-carb recipe book, as I'd like to find some more veggie recipes??

Gammeldragz · 04/01/2018 11:31

I bought a nice recipe book for my BF for Christmas, we sat and looked through it together when she opened it and I actually thought I would cook quite a lot of the meals. www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1592337015?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd&tag=mumsnetforum-21

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