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New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread

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prettybird · 01/01/2018 18:37

Although Boot Camp only starts formally on the 8th, people have asked for an introductory thread, so that they can get prepared. I may not be BIWI but she has lent me her Big Stick Grin However, this week, there shouldn't be any need for the Big Stick: you can ask questions and seek advice so that you can hit the ground running.

NB: I am not medical (nor is BIWI ) so if you have any medical issues, you should seek suitably qualified advice. This is a Way of Eating that has helped me lose 3 stone since May, without ever feeling hungry Smile - and there are many other success stories.

Someone (and I am sure she will remind me again who she is Blush) said on the last Boot Camp or the one before that even if a goal seems a long way away, and as such potentially unachievable, the time will pass anyway, whatever we do. So if we want to change things, we may as well start.

I am posting a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness from the last Boot Camp - but only so that you can access the tabs where there are various resources: carb values for veg, reading to do, and some recipes (although there is also the Boot Camp recipe thread to go to) For the moment, ignore the names on the Weigh-In tab - @SayrraT will be producing a new spreadsheet with all those that have signed up in time for the official start next week.

Here are The Rules you need to follow for the first two weeks of Boot Camp. This gives your body a chance to "fat adapt" and for you to learn to eat because you are hungry, not because you crave carbs/sugar. As you get used to this Way of Eating (WoE), you will be amazed to find how often you are not hungry. You will find your fat stores give you sufficient energy.

For newbies, it is important to eat 3 meals a day - even if it is just a nominal breakfast/bulletprooof coffee (coffee blended with butter). Otherwise, you may find that hunger - or habit - will lead you to fall face first back into carby twatdom and then you need to start that process of fat-adaption all over again. Some of us who have now been low carbing for a while have found that we can follow 16:8 fasting or even the occasional 24 hour fast - but this is not something to be done in the early weeks.

So, here are the Rules. After 2 weeks 1 (or whoever takes over the next stint of the BIWI Replacement Programme Wink) the rules will be posted for Boot Camp Lite. Many of us who are still actively trying to lose weight tend to follow Boot Camp during the week (maybe with extra berries and nuts) and then allow a small amount of alcohol at the weekend)

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
"You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)"
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
"The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt."
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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lisbapalea · 06/01/2018 11:14

Feeling slightly wary about the weekend as I find sticking to plan so much easier in the working week, but have kicked off well and have no reason to cock up but will prob need to be a bite more mindful today and tomorrow I think:

B - two eggs scrambled in butter, half an avocado with olive oil
L - not sure, prob some kind of fatty salad!
D - not sure yet...,

Rshard · 06/01/2018 11:23

Is anyone watching Saturday Kirchen? They just showed Mary Berry doing roast cauliflower with an olive oil, lemon and caper dressing. Looked lovely, are capers low carb?

abbey44 · 06/01/2018 11:54

Is anyone watching Saturday Kitchen? They just showed Mary Berry doing roast cauliflower with an olive oil, lemon and caper dressing. Looked lovely, are capers low carb?

I've googled and it says 4.9g carbs per 100g, but you wouldn't need very many to add the taste, would you, so they look ok-ish.

Rshard thanks, but Ocado don't come anywhere near us either, sadly. I'll have to send for mercy parcels from friends who live in a more civilized part of the country, I think.

BrassicaBabe · 06/01/2018 12:24

Do any of you guys menu plan for family meals? Fancy sharing? I'm a bit stuck in a rut with LC if grilled/fried meat and veg. I need some family friendly inspiration Smile

Wh0KnowsWhereTheT1meG0es · 06/01/2018 13:05

Just marking my spot to get myself back in the right frame of mind. I slipped a bit towards the end of the last BC with my lowest weigh-in being on 8th Dec. I then put back on 3lb in the runup to Christmas but have got back to the 8th Dec low point again now just by eating less (not low carb, but have had a stinking cold and lost my appetite generally).

Wh0KnowsWhereTheT1meG0es · 06/01/2018 13:07

Brassica - I try to meal plan but my brain is total fog at the moment. As discussed on previous threads I have a household of picky eaters so it isn’t easy.

Rshard · 06/01/2018 13:43

Thanks abbey, I think you’re right it won’t need many capers

Where possible brassica I do, but not a very systematic way but I do try not to make the same things but I do tend to buy the same things each week. So I always buy mince, but one week will do lasagna, then a chilli, then bolognaise etc. Same approach with chicken. I haven’t time to make different meals for me and luckily dd and dh eat anything so I do family meals with low carb tweaks for me. I don’t envy those on here who have to cater for different tastes, allergies etc.

MumOfAPickle · 06/01/2018 13:46

Hello all, BC virgin here but very keen Grin I've tried them all (ww, sw, rosemary conley, mfp, Atkins, dukan) and always found low-carb works well for me but that Atkins and dukan were too hard to stick to due to lack of veg ( and the weird oatbran stuff!) so I am optimistic. I am shamefully carbing it up today but I'm planning to pop to Waitrose in a minute to get some bits to see me through next week. Other than Total ff natural yogurt, cauliflower rice and vanilla powder any other recommendations? Did I read that under 5g carbs per 100g would be ok? I'm thinking of looking at the fish pates etc
Also, being a complete newbie (not to mn, am old) will there be a new thread started for Monday with links to spreadsheets and things? This is really quite a marvellous resource and I bow down to those of you who spend your time and energy helping others to do this Smile

wildthingsinthenight · 06/01/2018 13:53

I love this thread and have never been on before! Its very inspiring.
I followed the keto way of eating for 6 months last year and had great results. Have been off the wagon since end of Nov.
Going to start back on it next week when I have got rid of this virus I have!

BlackMozart · 06/01/2018 14:53

I love roast cauliflower. We’re going to have it as one of the veg with roast chicken tomorrow. Have just taken eldest DD back to uni for the last time probably. A bit sad because it has been lovely having her here for the last 3 weeks. Also taking down the Christmas decorations as I think it’s 12th night so sad about that too. ☹️☹️
Last chance for wine and chocolate this weekend - my dry January lasted from the 2nd to the 4th only - so starting again Monday. Onwards and downwards hopefully.

BlackMozart · 06/01/2018 14:57

Thanks prettybird re the yoghurt amount suggestion. I think for now I’ll stick with eggs until I remember to get vanilla powder (was in Waitrose this morning and forgot to look ) or the weather gets a bit warmer. I am going to try eggs with spinach, salmon or avocado more often and bacon only a couple of times a week.

prettybird · 06/01/2018 15:22

Mrsreynolds - I tend to fry my lamb chops (in some olive oil or coconut oil) but as long as you promise to eat the fat on the chops, grilling them should be ok if that is easier....,.Wink

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Rshard · 06/01/2018 15:26

There will be a new thread on Monday mumofapickle, there’s always a link to it from the previous week’s.

You’re right wildthings, these threads are always inspiring. You can always find support and advice as well as someone to tell you walk away from carby twattness!

Hope you don’t miss your dd too badly black. I took the decorations down last night and was relieved actually as I have managed to clean properly! I’ve also failed at dry January - ah well but I will abstain for the first two weeks if bootcamp. I’m going to try roast cauliflower, I’m sure there are some capers in the back of the cupboard.

I’ve made two lasagnas today, one for dd and dh and a low carb version for me. They’d eat low carb but this way we get lots of leftovers

prettybird · 06/01/2018 15:30

Brassicababe - is the menu plan I posted up last night helpful? I just serve ds and dh rice, pasta or potatoes while having extra veg myself. If I'm feeling nice to them, I'll make half the lasagne with lasagne pasta sheets for them and strips of courgettes for me. If I'm feeling less nice, I'll make the whole thing low carb Grin

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prettybird · 06/01/2018 15:47

Mumofapickle - I'll be starting a thread on Monday morning with a link to the wonderful sparkling new Spreadsheet of Fabulousness (the SoF) which has lots of resources. I'll also be re-stating the Rules in the OP. Every week will have a new thread with reminders of things to be aware of that week. The OP each week will link back to the SoF, so that people those that want to can update their weights on the weigh-in tab.

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blackteaplease · 06/01/2018 15:59

I am slowly shifting the Christmas lbs but need to shift my mindset. I've shopped and have lots of lchf friendly food in the fridge ready to go. I am looking forward to the routine of bootcamp again, I started the holidays well but quickly went rogue. It seems like I need more structure to my diet to keep control.

TheNorthernTights · 06/01/2018 16:32

Signing in for the start of bootcamp.
You've been inspiring my Low Carb efforts since I started reading the May Bootcamp threads after a warning from my doc that my blood sugar was in the pre-diabetic range . Happily since then I've lost a stone (nearer to a stone and a half, but the last 3 months have been, errrm, not good!) and doc confirmed my bloods were back in the ok range. I did start the October bootcamp but struggled to keep up with the threads, so didn't actually come and talk - aiming to change that this time!
I'll add my name to the spreadsheet on Monday.
Thanks to all involved in running this, I'm looking forward to being part of the success. I want to lose at least a stone on this Camp, which conveniently finishes just before my 50th birthday.
I'm away with work next week, with the evening meals all being taken at an Italian restaurant and lunches being provided and in the past have been bread heavy, but I'm planning ahead and will do the best I can. I did wonder about waiting until I was back next Sunday, but sod it, I can but try!

ilovecherries · 06/01/2018 16:42

We took DD back to uni today as well, Mozart. I miss her terribly, and she's actually very good at keeping in touch. I think it was worse this time as she's been unwell since the day she arrived on the 22nd - she came off the train burning up and barely able to speak. While she's a lot better, she isn't nearly well yet, and she was quite tearful when we left her. I just wanted to scoop her up and take her home again.

BlackMozart · 06/01/2018 17:00

Oh ilove I feel for you and your DD. I think my DD is finding it hard thinking this is nearly the end. She’s in her 4th year of a Masters and I think if there was a funded PhD in her chosen area she’d be applying!
However the likelihood is she’ll be coming to live back at home from June so she can get a job and start saving. I’ll have her back then! 😊

BlackMozart · 06/01/2018 17:04

thenortherntights I am away with work a number of days over the next two weeks. For this coming week I was asked about dietary requirements so I have been v specific about my low carbing and asked for an alternative to sandwiches at lunchtime. Dinner will be ok because hotels can always manage protein plus veg or salad. I’ve even said I won’t be drinking to make me stick to it!

ilovecherries · 06/01/2018 17:13

Yup, I've started just to be very specific when asked about dietary requirements and write 'low carb'. I don't tend to complicate it by asking for HF as well, I just ask for butter/olive oil/mayo at the table. But my lunch has been the envy of other delegates recently, as they have yet more sandwiches and sausage rolls!

BadlyParkedRangeRover · 06/01/2018 19:33

Trying to get back on track, sadly tyrozets for tonsillitis ended up with quality street as 'I'd had sugar already ' Hmm
B: FF greek yoghurt, double cream, flaxseed
L: Broc and stilton soup
D: paneer korai and a bit of cauliflower curry.
S: bits of cheese
Feeling slightly better, however DH is poorly and will keep me up snoring until I smother him with a pillow

BadlyParkedRangeRover · 06/01/2018 19:36

And 2 cups of not very milky tea

SayrraT · 06/01/2018 20:08

Feeling tired tonight as horse fitness training has officially started with our first trip to the gallops.

Horse felt great, top speed was 26 mph and I think he could have gone for longer. My horse always ends up super fit as we train with my friend who rides at quite a high level (as an amateur). She does 2* eventing for those that know what that is.

I love going to the gallops but I need to increase my fitness as my legs are sore tonight.

Sticking reasonably well to low carb but will be 100% BC from Monday.

New Year, New Start Boot Camp (the one without BIWI): Preparatory thread
intelligentPutty · 06/01/2018 20:28

Ah wow. That looks like an amazing ride. Jealous. ;)

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