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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 8 - Low Carb Bootcamp - Only 3 weeks to go ...

369 replies

BIWI · 27/11/2017 06:40

Morning all!

Here's the SoF once again

Hope that the scales are kind to you this morning.

So we enter the last three weeks. Still time to lose some significant weight. But only if you follow the rules!

It's a difficult time of the year, as Christmas goodies start to appear in the shops, and - I'm guessing - at work and at home as well!

You might find it easier to stay focused if you move back onto Bootcamp for the last two weeks, so you're really making sure that the carby stuff that you might have been indulging in - even if that has just been Bootcamp Light.

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TimbuktuTimbuktu · 27/11/2017 17:45

I'm happy to answer questions. I would recommend reading the bootcamp rules and looking at the spreadsheet first though. @SlobSister

What would you like to know?

DrDiva · 27/11/2017 17:54

Hi everyone. Still here. Just. Congrats on all the losses. Flowers

Not drinking enough. Today was low carb by the easy method of not having time to eat anything!

Rshard · 27/11/2017 18:01

Funny NSV today. My dd’s friend asked dd on behalf of her mum - Rshard’s lost loads of weight and looks lovely, how’s she done it I’m jealous. To my surprise dd said she’s been doing lchf on mumsnet! Think I must have been mentioning it a bit!!

prettybird · 27/11/2017 18:12

Stuntnun - that's why I started exercising after the last Boot Camp Smile

I've worked my way through the 30 Day Shred again and today started Level 4 of Ripped in 30 which I've only done once before a long time ago It was tough Shock there are burpees, which I can only do slowly Angry

prettybird · 27/11/2017 18:13

Rshard - that's a brilliant NSV Smile

Rshard · 27/11/2017 18:24

Thanks prettybird, I was pretty chuffed.

scabbersley, I might be able to recommend dipping cucumber in Delouis mayo......

Almahart · 27/11/2017 18:42

I've just remembered an NSV. Over the weekend I was sorting out clothes and tried on some tops that I love but were way too small

They fit!!

BIWI · 27/11/2017 19:25

Several people have asked about maintenance, and how to go about it.

It's not easy. In fact, I think in some ways, maintaining is probably harder than losing weight!

The best advice I can give you, from my own experience (bitter experience, as I didn't do this Blush), is to work out the level of flex that you're prepared to accept. Your weight will naturally fluctuate, and as you increase your carbs you are likely to put a little weight back on. I'd say that you need allow 5lbs above your target/desired weight.

Keep an eagle eye on your weight - no need to keep on weighing daily, but once a week or fortnight would be a good idea - and once you reach 5lbs over your target, go back to strict low carbing.

Another thing I'd say is, don't suddenly add carbs to all your meals. Go easy! Add things in gradually, so you can work out what things have the most impact on your weight.

Try and keep 2 out of your 3 meals a day as low carb as if you were on Bootcamp Light.

And just be mindful of what you're eating - if you eat pasta or rice or potatoes - try and keep your portions small. Don't fall face first into the biscuit tin!

You have to be vigilant. Sadly, there's no going back to what you ate before, because that's what made you put weight on.

Overall, the real difficulty is that no-one can tell you how many carbs you'll be able to tolerate before you start to gain weight, because we're all different.

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BrassicaBabe · 27/11/2017 19:50

Thanks BIWI I suspect we need to keep an eye on the fat intake when reintroducing carbs. Life isn’t good enough to allow HF and a few carbs Grin

Grimbles · 27/11/2017 20:03

Evening all! I will weigh in tomorrow but unless I have a whoosh overnight I'm going to sts Angry

Managed a 18hr fast today

B. Fasting
L. Prawns, Marie rose, pork Scratchings
D. Will be pork chop topped with cheese. Leeks mushrooms and pancetta in a cream and blue cheese sauce

HolgerDanske · 27/11/2017 20:13

For me maintenance goes something like this, and I have kept it up fairly easily in the past:

A weekly allowance of 2-3 glasses of wine, if I fancy it. Light puddings once in a while (cream, milk, jelly based, for the most part, not too much baked stuff if any at all), every fortnight, or monthly. Small allowance of chocolate which I spread out rather than eat in one sitting on one day, so that my sugars don’t go too high. No sweets.

Natural veg based carbs take precedence over processed, every time. So I will happily eat one or two roasties if I decide I really want them, but I will not have stodgy, sweet, carby cakes and pudding.

Pasta/rice/crisps/crackers/cakes/biscuits are not good for me. Absolutely no bread. Especially not lovely crusty bread with soft cheeses. I simply can’t control myself with it. Never, ever any pretzel rolls as they are like crack to me. Every once in a great while, half a naan with my curry. Most of the time I would stick with poppadoms.

Don’t usually eat breakfast. If I’m not hungry I don’t eat lunch either. If it takes me all the way to dinner then cool, if not I’ll have a small snack when I do get hungry. Mostly veg based meals, enough protein but not too much. Every few weeks when I really fancy it, a slice of grain bread (the German kind, which I know agrees with me and doesn’t trigger cravings), with something like sliced boiled egg, or smoked salmon/gravadlax, or soft cheeses.

A big, big salad of all sorts of fresh lettuces/veg at least once a week, to make sure I get all the nutrients I need. Especially if I realise I haven’t been eating enough veg for a few days.

Most of the secret to success, for me anyway, lies in not getting lazy about meal prep, not slacking off too often, and staying vigilant on one”s emotional relationship with food. For me stress at work is a major problem. I have to guard carefully on a very bad day against the temptation to just shovel stuff in. If I am in a desperate place where I really do need something, I’m usually careful to be as sensible as I can, so I’ll have some peanut butter. Or an extra square of chocolate. Not two packets of crisps, a mars bar, a cupcake and biscuits when the tea comes round. If I really want crisps, one bag. Then straight back to lc’ing. Nothing gets carried over from one day to the next (‘I had a whole pizza yesterday so I might as well have ten biscuits, fish and chips, my favourite bun and a pudding after dinner today’- NO.)

Drinking lots of water doesn’t cost anything and is good for you. I plan to keep doing that. Keeping teas and herbal/fruit tea as my main hot drinks. Coffee every so often but not too often as it messes with my sleep. Not too many artificially flavoured/sweetened drinks.

Christmas this year I am not planning to over indulge. I am within reach of my target weight now and also well into healthy mind, healthy body territory so I won’t compromise that - I’ve been there and done it twice before and I never want to go there again. It’s a long, difficult slog back every time. Anything I do have, I will have because I properly want it. I will give it due reverence and eat it calmly, quietly, treating my mind at the same time I am treating my taste buds.

After Christmas I aim to experiment with fasting as well, not necessarily weekly or to any kind of set regimen, but certainly if I ever have any more serious carb blowouts.

BrassicaBabe · 27/11/2017 20:32

I’m a bit scared now. My old WOE was VLCD. Basically I over ate at the weekend and starved myself in the week. Not satisfying overall but has worked in the past.

I do so like this WOE in that during the week I don’t feel deprived. But I’m missing the fun food. This WOE is very binary. It’s not tolerant of cheating! I’ve been “good” every weekend since the end of sept!!

ilovecherries · 27/11/2017 20:33

The thought of maintenance terrifies me if I'm honest. In fact, I've moved my goal downwards several times (it's currently sitting at 10 stone 10 which is more than a stone below what it was initially) and I think it's a lot to do with being scared. I've been zero tolerance for 6 months and found it relatively easy - the whole 'just for today, I will not eat carbs' thing has worked well for me. So many people (having lost weight by any method), seem to put I back on relatively quickly, that it really scares me. I just can't go there again.

StuntNun · 27/11/2017 20:35

I tend to keep eating pretty similarly to Bootcamp Light at maintenance but I don't worry about the higher carb veg such as carrots and fruit such as apples and satsumas. I do eat potato but only the occasional roastie, not huge portions of potatoes. I will also have a small portion of rice occasionally. Over the years high carb foods have lost their appeal so a carby treat for me would be something like a cafe latte. Anything with sugar in is too horribly sweet now. My favourite indulgence at maintenance is hot chocolate made just from cocoa powder and full fat milk, with whipped cream on top.

StuntNun · 27/11/2017 20:37

Cherries there isn't any need to change the way you're eating now. You will find a natural balance where your calorie intake maintains your weight and you won't continue to lose weight. Everyone needs to find their own pathway through maintenance.

FurryTurnip · 27/11/2017 20:57

Thank you BIWI, Holger and Stunt for excellent maintenance advice!

I'm a bit scared too, like Cherries. I have already decided I will amend my target to 10.7 to give me a buffer, so I now have 4lbs to go.

I don't ever plan to go back to my old way of eating. I've already said on here the weight loss is a great bonus but for me the removal of emotional eating and bingeing is far more valuable and I feel much more stable mentally. This is a way of life now and not just a short term solution so I need to adapt it to fit with real life.

I plan to stick with BC light and just bring in a few things, maybe weekly. I am probably being very naive but am also slightly worried about losing too much weight as I don't want to look gaunt.

Thanks for your advice, it will be a big learning curve!

BrassicaBabe · 27/11/2017 21:05

Onwards then furry! I’m with you for another 4lb too. Thanks for the maintenance tips folks x

HolgerDanske · 27/11/2017 21:30

Another thing that really works well for me is making considered choices for treat foods or meals. I love a good takeaway pizza. There’s an Italian place near us that makes a pretty good stone baked pizza. Before I would have happily eaten half a huuuge pizza. Then had more for breakfast the next day. Cold, with extra salt. It’s a certain kind of heaven for me.

But in maintaining this woe it’s not about stuffing things down you. Is eight slices really going to be more pleasurable than four? No, I don’t think so. Especially not the way I used to eat them, where the last few slices would have been eaten purely for the sake of it, because I do really like pizza and because a part of me always wants more of everything I like. I would have been aware of already being full, but I’d have said fuck it, go on, have it anyway and I would have felt quite sick at the end of it. And probably quite awful for most of the next day too.

On maintenance, on the very odd occasion that I decide on a takeaway pizza I am going to have two or three slices, I will eat them slowly and mindfully, really taking care to enjoy each bite and really enjoy my glass or two of wine with it as well. And that will be enough, that will be pleasurable; I no longer need to eat to excess to feel as if I am treating myself.

HolgerDanske · 27/11/2017 21:37

D’oh! I forgot the bit about considered choices! Grin

Was just going to say, going out less often so every few months for an actual meal at a good pizzeria is another way to get more pleasure out of less. I might just have a small pizza, but it will freshly made with beautiful ingredients, and eating it in the lovely ambience of a restaurant and in good company makes it much more of a treat than shovelling huge slices of pizza into my mouth in front of the telly ever was.

BIWI · 27/11/2017 21:47

Right.

For all those of you at or near maintenance, . Here's a brand new thread for you all .

A place, like Bootcamp, for help, supports and ideas.

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Mimosa1 · 27/11/2017 22:00

You guys, congratulations to all of you who are so close to maintenance!

It's still a looong way away for me, although I'm pleased to say baby weight no 2 is firmly off and I'm not too far now to baby weight no 1 being off as well. However, it will NOT be achieved by eating pork scratchings. I've never tasted anything so foul in my life Envy { not envy. On the plus side, I now can't face anything else to eat either. Boak.

That said, the discussion on maintenance is pretty interesting and timely to me regardless because I'm planning to maintain over Christmas,
the 14th of Dec to the 3rd of January to be exact. This is when I'm going to be on holiday and celebrating Christmas and being with truly dearly beloved family who live all too far away and are making it back this trip. I'm not planning a 2.5 week binge, mind, but I suppose some sort of maintenance as I am going to be more relaxed about sugar - with the aim of being the same weight in Jan as I will be mid Dec. Fingers crossed! All that to say that I'm keenly interested in the maintenance discussion despite it being a long way away.

FurryTurnip · 27/11/2017 22:06

BIWI thanks so much for the maintenance thread, really helpful!

Some great advice out there, good to hear from people's experiences like Holger.

RaininSummer · 27/11/2017 22:08

Sulking as seem to have gained three pounds over night so not logging it.

starsky22 · 27/11/2017 22:14

Well done on all the losses, everyone sounds very motivated to keep going, which is great.

I've lost 3lbs this week, so the 2lb I put on in Paris plus an extra one, which I was quite surprised about, as I have had carbs this week. I had planned to introduce some carbs, but I have had more than planned, including bread, sausage roll, pizza, ice-cream, croissant Grin and mashed potato. It sounds like a lot compared to a low carb week, but actually the quantities apart from the pizza were small, so 1 slice of bread, half a croissant, a few spoons of ice-cream etc. Definitely a lot less than I would have had pre-bootcamp and I still kept most meals low carb and had some completely low carb days and a 24hr fast. It is good to know that I can have a few carbs and not go completely crazy. I just need to find the right balance and so I think I will decide on some rules to follow regarding the amount of low carb meals/days I will have each week. I'd rather do that, than start tracking my calories/macros, I like the simplicity of bootcamp and want to find something similar for maintenance. I think if I have an indulgent meal, then I will have a couple of strict low carb days to keep me on track, I will also keep weighing like BIWI suggested and if my weight goes over a set amount, then it will be back to bootcamp.

starsky22 · 27/11/2017 22:16

Oooh thanks for the maintenance thread BIWI I think I will copy my post over to there!