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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 07:50

Morning all Flowers

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W-L3Zo6bEtw-zwqIVGRzCfGSgX0ZUxlC3snVbEb-J-g/edit?usp=sharing Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness ]]

If you haven't already, have a really good look around it - check out all the lovely stuff on the tabs at the bottom.

And here are the rules. Print these out and make sure you keep them handy:

1. Eat three meals a day
If you're not adapted to low carbing, then you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder!

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day.

There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. I think Total Full Fat is the best, but other posters have also discovered a good one at Lidl.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these make a very good low carb snack, and can be added back in after these first two weeks, they are very moreish and can quickly become very carby. Also, carb counts vary enormously. Almonds and macadamias are the lowest.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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HarlotsWeb · 12/10/2017 09:40

Morning! I am another worrier about calories. And on previous diets have been an obsessive daily weigher. But on this one my approach is "well, I wasn't losing weight currently anyway, so I am just switching from one mode of over indulgence (endless biscuits and crisps and choc at work) to another (delicious fat rich food), and I will just think of it as an experiment and see what happens on the scales after a week."

That said, I really want a biscuit this morning, but am going for this instead.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!
singadream · 12/10/2017 09:41

Morning. leftovers for breakfast (salmon, plus a boiled egg). Lunch I am going to have... steak! Looking forward to it already. No idea re dinner yet.

ilovecherries · 12/10/2017 10:11

I understand how hard it can be to worry about calorie intake - last bootcamp I was fretting about it all the time, having had years of calorie counting/fat gms counting/cal in vs cal out thinking leading to punitive hours in the gym. But I lost 21 lbs in 10 weeks by following the bloody rules to the letter ( and have continued to lose at 1lb a week since). This woe requires a complete reversal of everything you know about weight loss. I don't stuff my face, but I am never ravenous any more. I get the odd poke from my stomach that basically says 'it's been 5-6 hours since you fed us - when you get a chance, some food would be nice'. And that's it. I never think about calories any more. I'm not at the mercy of hangriness every 2 hours. I'm just not interested in all the things I loved before - and I was a total carb monster. But it only works if you do it, it's not a woe where you can have a 'naughty' day (jeez, I hate that term!) and make up for it the next day

Giraffeski · 12/10/2017 10:11

Hello day 4!

Tuesday :
B: cheese string x 2 (was rushing out of the door on school run and didn't want to go without eating SOMETHING)
L: Broccoli and red pepper (very tiny amount) omelette cooked in butter
D: Beef stew- I missed out the potatoes or carrots and made myself some cauliflower cheese to go with mine)
3l water, 1 creamy coffee, 1 mug almond milk coffee, 2 cups tea with almond milk.

Yesterday:
B: mushroom omelette cooked in butter
L: greek salad with lots of olive oil
D: Fathead pizza (a massive achievement as the rest of the family were eating Dominos and DH was on wine and crisps later on)
Drinks: 2.5l still water, 1l sparkling water1 mug creamy coffee, 2 mugs coffee with unsweetened almond milk,

Today:
B: 2 eggs scrambled in butter
L: no idea as I'm at the office and I don't have authoring with me, argh! However I will be leaving about 2pm so I can get something then- the great thing about this WOE is that I know I'll be able to manage until then without being a carby twat. I think I must still be fat adapted from the last bootcamp as even since day 1 I haven't actually had any carb cravings or felt hungry.
D: skin on chicken thighs roasted with some veg including celeriac, baby corn and broccoli (off hand thinking whats in the fridge). May include some potatoes for DH and kids but I solemnly promise not to eat them- I normally manage by cutting the celeriac into different shapes so I can easily identify.

Had 1 mug creamy coffee and 1 mug almond milk coffee so far, need to get drinking my water.

DH commented I am looking slimmer already last night so must be losing some water weight.

Veryflummoxed · 12/10/2017 10:12

Brassica I ate loads of pork scratchings when I first started this woe (over a year ago) now they are barely on my radar.* This really is a change for life. Plus what everyone else has said.*

Harlots just in case you haven’t checked some of the vanilla essence has sugar.* I didn’t realise till someone pointed it out and indeed the one I was using did have it.* Still use it on the rare occasion as it’s only a drop and I can’t find a sugar free one (anyone?)

DrDiva · 12/10/2017 10:14

Oh boy, these antibiotics are playing havoc with my stomach Sad
Ploughed my way through some yoghurt this morning, really hope it helps.

AND have caught my delightful child's horrible cold, with accompanying sore throat. What's a good lc anaesthetic for said throat?

Veryflummoxed · 12/10/2017 10:15

Oh, didn’t they demand their cauliflower cheese, I cant imagine anyone preferring carrots and potatoes now Grin

StuntNun · 12/10/2017 10:25

I echo BIWI's comment that it's really important to avoid cheating in the first two weeks of Bootcamp. The process of fat-adaption is not a simple one, particularly if you weren't metabolically flexible (easily able to switch between burning glucose and fat) to begin with. Your body has to increase its production of certain digestive enzymes. Your kidneys have to adjust your water excretion rate. Your liver has to switch from storing carbs as fat to producing glucose. Your hormone levels need to be rebalanced since hormones are being released along with fat. Your pancreas has to produce less insulin. Your brain has to cope with significantly lower insulin levels and higher ghrelin levels. The majority of the fat-adaption process takes place in the first couple of weeks but it can take 6-8 weeks to complete.

Every time you eat something carby during the first two weeks you are buggering up the adaption process. It will take longer to happen, you won't lose weight as quickly, and you may well prolong the symptoms of carb flu. It's only two weeks and then you can relax and introduce some berries or nuts or dark chocolate. All those foods you want will still be there waiting for you.

As a long-term low carber I have noticed a significant change in the appeal of carby foods. I have a packet of doughnuts and a packet of muffins on the counter in my kitchen (for my DCs) and I am walking past them all day without them remotely attracting my attention. It's not that I'm particularly "good" or "strict". It's just that I haven't eaten them in so long they're not on my food radar. Have any of the other old-timers noticed the same?

wecantallbeperfect · 12/10/2017 10:29

Morning all just checking in Smile
B 2 slices bacon and scrambled eggs with butter
L will be a babybel on the hoof as in the recording studio this afternoon/evening
D roast lamb with cauliflower cheese, broccoli and green beans

Drinking at least 3L of water and I'm pleased that I've dropped my squash in water habit!

I find it really inspirational reading all your stories and I love the pictures of your food. Smile

It's great to know that others eat due to feeling sad, emotional or stressed and there are some great suggestions for overcoming that.

I got my cholesterol tests back yesterday and they are off the scale but GP said not to worry about it-so I'm not. I believe my levels will drop with this WOE so will get another test in around 6 months.

Have a great day everyone Smile

HarlotsWeb · 12/10/2017 10:56

Bugger about the sugar in vanilla essence. It is just that other people said they were doing it, so like a carby sheep I followed them Blush

prettybird · 12/10/2017 11:18

Stuntnun - my version of being able to resist carbs is the fact that I can now walk into a petrol station to pay and not even glance at the rows of chocolates and sweeties, let along buy a bar or two Grin

Veryflummoxed · 12/10/2017 11:27

Harlots.There are definitely vanilla essence makes without. And I know people have talked about bean paste I’m sure someone will be along with some recommendations.**

HolgerDanske · 12/10/2017 11:32

My version is literally hundreds of instances - I am a carb fiend down to the bones of me and that never really changes. It's always there lurking under the surface and hardly takes anything to come back with a vengeance if I get into the wrong headspace or have a particularly difficult or stressful period. So I have to be very, very careful about any cheats or temporarily coming off the wagon because it can derail me for months.

But my current biggest one is that I no longer feel drawn to McDonalds and I no longer routinely bribe myself with a breakfast just to get up and out of bed and in to work.

prettybird · 12/10/2017 11:38

Harlots - I make an everlasting vanilla "essence" with vanilla pods and brandy (can also use vodka) and then stored and shaken for a few weeks (and thereafter kept topped up). Not suitable for Boot Camp but afterwards, you only need the tiniest amount.

For other newbies, just a bit of reassurance about the amount of times you need to go to the loo - including during the night Shock. Your kidneys do get used to the increased water intake and the need to flush your system, so it does settle down. Smile In the interim, try to have the majority of your water in the first half of the day and don't try to make it up to the required amount at the end of the day like I had a tendency to do Blush

Once it has settled down, you will probably be rewarded by having a really long pee first thing in the morning or is that just me? Blush

StuntNun · 12/10/2017 11:38

McDonalds isn't too bad for low carb now Holger. I went at the weekend and had a South African Stack burger without the bread or barbecue sauce. Just two burgers, two slices of pepper jack cheese, bacon, mayo, tomato, and salad leaves. It made a pretty awesome lunch! I usually order the shaker side salad as well for a bit more veg.

SweetBabyJebus · 12/10/2017 11:53

Harlots this was recommended to me last year on Bootcamp. It's pure vanilla pods. Pricey (£6 from Waitrose) but lasts ages.

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HarlotsWeb · 12/10/2017 11:55

Thanks jebus, that looks good. And I am a sucker for a cool looking tin.

Veryflummoxed · 12/10/2017 12:26

I can ignore sweet stuff with little problem. Bland carbs (as in the pack up I did this morning) have no appeal. And fish and chips which I could always fall into and we’re just sitting about my favourite food I can reject with ease. There are still some high carb savoury things which I have to exercise a lot of restraint though. I won’t name them in case I set myself offGrin

Veryflummoxed · 12/10/2017 12:28

Were just about my favourite food. That should say.

Also if i indulge a little it quickly becomes a lot and all the cravings come flooding back even if it’s only temporarily.

Almahart · 12/10/2017 12:29

Stuntnun, thank you so much for that. You just saved me from a Diet Coke.

Breakfast eggs and Boursin
Lunch lamb curry and salad
Dinner will be something from pret or eat

Had a flat white in a cafe which was super milky which was annoying

Escapepeas · 12/10/2017 12:46

Sorry, another question from me. Is quorn OK?

Rshard · 12/10/2017 13:02

Spotted you mentioned Boursin almahart. I was wondering about that as it’s ones of dd’s faves in chicken wrapped in bacon. So that’s another regular dish that fits this woe. Thanks!

lashesandflashes · 12/10/2017 13:07

I'm not doing bootcamp officially - I don't like scales in the house! As a daily teen weigher with girls I don't want to encourage it. BUT I'm loving this new WOE.

Feeling amazing after a couple of days feeling cold and a bit headachey. Have upped the water to 3l and not had any alcohol since Saturday. Ditched my lattes for Americanos and going to bed early to read to save me from my crisps and wine box set craving.

I feel less hungry and can eat butter by the spoonful. Amazing!! Great to read all your updates. I'm also not sure of portion size. I'm not hungry for breakfast and am finding 2 meals with a snack is enough for me. For L I had 3 eggs scrambled in butter with 3x back bacon and for D I'll have salmon cooked in butter with around 200g of stir fried veg with peanut butter and soy sauce. Snacks tend to be full fat smoked cheese. Does that sound ok???

ClearEyesFullHearts · 12/10/2017 13:07

Holger I used to live off McDonald's bacon and egg muffins. Had one on holiday this summer after Bootcamp. Tasted like shit. Hmm

Oncewaswho · 12/10/2017 13:07

A question from me too. Is cottage cheese ok (the full fat type). It's not very high in fat but unlike other soft cheeses which are too rich I can eat it "in bulk" with salad. I wouldn't want to add any other dressing. I bought some last week before I knew about bootcamp but haven't eaten it yet.

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