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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 07:50

Morning all Flowers

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W-L3Zo6bEtw-zwqIVGRzCfGSgX0ZUxlC3snVbEb-J-g/edit?usp=sharing Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness ]]

If you haven't already, have a really good look around it - check out all the lovely stuff on the tabs at the bottom.

And here are the rules. Print these out and make sure you keep them handy:

1. Eat three meals a day
If you're not adapted to low carbing, then you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder!

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day.

There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. I think Total Full Fat is the best, but other posters have also discovered a good one at Lidl.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these make a very good low carb snack, and can be added back in after these first two weeks, they are very moreish and can quickly become very carby. Also, carb counts vary enormously. Almonds and macadamias are the lowest.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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InkyToesies · 10/10/2017 12:43

Thanks GrumpyOldFucker.

shiplessocean · 10/10/2017 12:46

Morning everyone...nice gentle low heart-rate 5k this morning...hope that will have got rid of some glycogen! Now going away on work trip. Writing some mantras in my work book "I do NOT eat biscuits in meetings!". Planning nice big cooked breakfasts every morning to help me...I SO want this to work this time, and am guessing it will be more difficult to get into ketosis as have done it a few times before, I think my body gets fed up of me messing around!

sheepysheep · 10/10/2017 12:47

shipless I didn't get in on the VLM ballot so I'm doing an autumn marathon instead. Did you do London in April or one of the other Spring ones? I entered the ballot for ride London and I'm hoping to get through because I'm a sucker for bling and I want a London Classics medal (you get one if you complete the London marathon (I did it a few years ago), ride London and swim serpentine in Hyde park). I haven't done very much since the marathon in September but I'm going to start a long winter base training period now.... all MAFF – I hope it pays off. I've read all the science and it's really compelling, but it takes a lot of faith to put months of training into it... I think that's why there aren’t many MAFFers, it's quite demoralising to start with especially if you’re already a slow runner (I am).

I find that fat for fuel is great for steady aerobic work /

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 10/10/2017 12:49

Not too bad so far today.

B- two tbs of Greek yoghurt and bit of cheddar and slice of Parma ham
L- leftover chicken and chorizo thing from last night
D- will either be an omelette/scrambled eggs/ a flourless quiche depending on how late I get home. With asparagus, cheese, spinach and chorizo probably

I think I'm eating too much processed meat but want to use up what's in the fridge and I do find it easier. I should do more batch cooking though.

I was starving this morning and I'm really tired so I think the withdrawal stage is imminent.

I think my protein to fat ratio is probably a bit off. Does anyone do bulletproof tea/coffee to address that?

sheepysheep · 10/10/2017 12:54

Resist the biscuits!! Maybe you could take some nuts in, or olives?
I work away a lot and devour enormous cooked breakfasts and have been known to butter the bacon.... my colleagues sit there sanctimoniously nursing their tiny bowls of muesli and low fat yoghurt ... the foooooools!!

Rshard · 10/10/2017 12:56

So I bought some mayonnaise at lunch time, I went for the original Hellmans as that had the lowest carb - 0.5g per portion. Does that sound ok?

Escapepeas · 10/10/2017 13:00

Day 2

I think I may have fucked up a bit today.

B - 2 poached eggs, halloumi & mushrooms
L - M&S chili prawns, supergreen salad, small pot of mozzarella balls, full fat greek yoghurt
D - Diet Doctor keto creamy fish casserole (www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/creamy-keto-fish-casserole)

shiplessocean · 10/10/2017 13:01

@sheepy I did Brighton. It was a really hot day so a real struggle BUT I never hit the wall, which I put down to MAF. Your cycling sounds awesome...I am a rubbish on the bike so in awe of people who do that! That's why I love MAF running....I can just plod away for ages. Hoping that some weight loss will help too. I put on weight with my marathon training as told myself I would burn the carbs (and would consequently spend the whole day after a long run eating!). Hoping to do another marathon in spring but this time do it the LCHF way!

singadream · 10/10/2017 13:23

Thanks @NOMOREoatcakesandcheese. Sorry missed that bit of the thread.

Breakfast I had a small bowl of leftover bolognese from last night. And a flat white coffee at coffee shop.

Lunch I had two boiled eggs mashed with butter and a chicken leg.

Now having a cup of tea.

BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:33

@GrumpyOldFucker - re the cabbage count, does that vary by type of cabbage though? There's white, green, sweetheart, red and Savoy!

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BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:35

@Escapepeas tofu is 1.9g carbs per 100g, so yes it's allowed

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BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:36

@Thiswillbemynewusername

No luck on the scales this morning, I seem to have been stuck at the same weight for a few days now.

This is perfectly normal! If you expect to see a loss every day then you are going to be disappointed, so daily weighing probably isn't a good idea.

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BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:38

@DartmoorDoughnut (you'll have to change that name Grin)

Had an awful night with carb flu, genuinely haven't felt so ill in forever - or since last time I did boot camp! - almost fell down the stairs I was so weak and as I have to carry my littlest (10months) I'm going to have to rethink

First, are you sure it's carb flu and not something else?

Second, if you're feeling that bad/weak so quickly, you must have kept your carbs really low, which probably isn't a good idea. What did you eat yesterday?

But most importantly, thirdly, don't give in now! You'll be through the worst of it by tomorrow.

Eat a slice of toast, and if you feel better, then you'll know your carbs were too low.

Also, make sure you're getting enough sodium - cook with salt and put it on your food. It's really important.

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ClearEyesFullHearts · 10/10/2017 13:39

Rshard Hellman's is a good choice for mayonnaise.

Escapepeas how have you fucked up? Can't see anything wrong in your menu.

For those anticipating or stressing over carb flu, it's worth remembering it doesn't happen to everyone in the same way, and isn't always dreadful.

I was all about the bread and pasta and lagercompletely carb 'addicted'and didn't really get carb flu. Yes I had a day or two of headache some time in the first week, but a bit of bouillon or some paracetamol or drinking more water or eating a babybel...all of that works. It wasn't anything like the real flu and it passed much quicker!

My point is that it's a short term adjustment to a way of eating, and that would be the case with any major dietary change, and it might be minimal. So don't dread it. Wink

Scabbersley · 10/10/2017 13:40

Can you buy full fat Greek yogurt in little tubs?

BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:40

@ClearEyesFullHearts

what is the thinking behind limiting chorizo, ham, bacon, etc--basically the processed meats?

It's mainly because the focus should be on foods that are as natural as possible. But also because those foods often contain ingredients that may have other effects, as has been pointed out. And it's amazing how many of them also contain sugar.

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ClearEyesFullHearts · 10/10/2017 13:42

DartmoorDoughnut BIWI's stick may be big, but it's not mean. Nothing to be afraid of! Grin

BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:44

@Scabbersley

Carb flu is what some people experience in the first few days of going low carb. It's essentially a withdrawal from sugar.

There's a really good piece about it here Low carbing isn't the same as paleo, but there are some similarities - and this piece explains it well.

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BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:45

@InkyToesie yes, you can use other oils. I agree, that using olive oil makes it too bitter.

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NOMOREoatcakesandcheese · 10/10/2017 13:47

Yes you can, Scabbersley I’ve just bought these from Sainsbury’s today

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!
BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:47

@CremedeSudo

I found this:

How Long Does It Usually Take To Get Into Ketosis?

The body can only store a two-day supply of glucose in the form of glycogen, so after two days of consuming no more than 20 grams of carbohydrates, most people go into lipolysis/ketosis.

I know I tell you not to count carbs, so this doesn't mean that you should! But it indicates that going low carb, following Bootcamp, means you should get into ketosis relatively quickly. The fewer carbs you consume, the quicker it will be.

However, you don't need to be in ketosis to lose weight.

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BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:49

@Scabbersley

Yes, olive oil is as good as butter - if you mean as a source of fat. I use both liberally

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BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:52

@justfivemoreminutessleep

Morning all, so after feeling excited about making a new start and excited to have a new me, I'm day two and struggling 😔

Help I just feel so awful, really really nauseous, pounding headache (I did take paracetamol this morning as I couldn't function) I feel weak like I'm walking round in a fog. Is any of this normal?? I really don't want to give up but I feel so ill 😔

This is carb flu - see up thread for the explanation and solution I've already suggested.

But you'll be through it shortly - nothing wrong with taking paracetamol to deal with the headache.

Eat more fat, drink more water and make sure you have plenty of sodium (aka salt)

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BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:54

@singadream

I've been low carbing (on and off) for a long time now, and in my experience restaurants are usually very accommodating - so don't hesitate to ask for a substitution. If a dish comes with potatoes or chips, ask for vegetables or a salad instead.

And yes, every Monday I set up a new thread, with a post to the spreadsheet for the weigh-in

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BIWI · 10/10/2017 13:56

@singadream

Re your difficulty!

First, are you actually having problems, or are you just going less frequently? It's common on low carbing not to go as often. This does change - I'm a daily 'goer'!

But if you are finding it difficult, and you're in any discomfort, firstly eat more fat and drink (even more) water.

A strong, black coffee first thing can help, along with a high strength vitamin C tablet.

Above all, make sure your'e getting your carbs from veg and salad, and that you're eating decent quantities of those, as this will give you enough fibre.

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