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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 07:50

Morning all Flowers

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W-L3Zo6bEtw-zwqIVGRzCfGSgX0ZUxlC3snVbEb-J-g/edit?usp=sharing Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness ]]

If you haven't already, have a really good look around it - check out all the lovely stuff on the tabs at the bottom.

And here are the rules. Print these out and make sure you keep them handy:

1. Eat three meals a day
If you're not adapted to low carbing, then you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder!

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day.

There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. I think Total Full Fat is the best, but other posters have also discovered a good one at Lidl.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these make a very good low carb snack, and can be added back in after these first two weeks, they are very moreish and can quickly become very carby. Also, carb counts vary enormously. Almonds and macadamias are the lowest.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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Rshard · 10/10/2017 09:08

creme just looked at the cauliflower cheese recipe and wondered did you “translate” it from cups? I don’t have any. Thanks

DrDiva · 10/10/2017 09:21

Haven't entirely RTFT yet but I promise I will!

Still here. Just about! Grin

Last nights dinner was not the biggest success of my cooking career. I went to the freezer and got out a gammon joint, defrosted it, stuck it on to boil. Then realised that I hadn't checked the weight, so went and fished the packet out of the bin to look.

BEEF BRISKET JOINT.

Shock Shock Shock Shock

Cue fishing it frantically out of the already boiling water and throwing it in the oven, praying that I was in time to save it. Well, the flavour was fine, but it is a really good workout for the jaw. Still, the accompanying fried cabbage with cream and a smattering of cheese was excellent!

Scabbersley · 10/10/2017 09:21

Hello Smile bookmarking my place. 12.12 this morning. Need to lose a stone to get back to a healthy weight. I am 51 and have found that weight just piles on, having been quite slim without trying all my life. I eat huge portions and snack! I've started run/walking and am horrified at how difficult I am finding it! No alcohol this month as I am doing sober October so seems a good month to start.

I absolutely love carbs. Toast, pasta, croissants. Love them. Also have to cook a lot for three sporty skinny daughters so this maybe too hard. Not going to add to spreadsheet until I've done a week. Thank you BIWI.

swlondonnanny · 10/10/2017 09:25

ClearEyes I know I am not BIWI but think it is for a couple of reasons. Nitrates and nitrites which are used to cure processed mean can stall weight loss. Some people who are sensitive to them can and up being bloated after eating them (as I am). Also you are more likely to overfeed on processed meat as it tastes yummy Smile. And of course it is not healthy... but that is just my thinking...

Scabbersley · 10/10/2017 09:26

What's 'carb flu'?? Shock

NOMOREoatcakesandcheese · 10/10/2017 09:27

Morning all you losers. I see there’s loads of activity here just for today already. I’m a bit of a slow starter - I’m more a night owl so don’t really communicate with anyone til I’ve had a least two cups of coffee.

Rshard I’ll happily lower the tone with you or anyone else and talk constipation- I’m a bit of an expert in err movement. I had big trouble going when I started this woe and what helped me was magnesium supplements, psyllium husks, loads of water, loads of veg, apparently celeriac is good too but I’m not sure I like it also flax seeds stirred into yoghurt- not allowed til bc lite though. When I did finally go it was it fellt like the bottom had dropped out my world!! It seems to have stabilised now and I’m fairly regular. I still take magnesium supplements as they good for keeping the electrolyte balance and also for the dreaded leg cramps and I take extra when I notice I’m getting “bunged up” one final thing whilst we’re on the subject my IBS has greatly improved since I’ve been on this woe!!
Ok the tone can be raised for now!!

BIWI · 10/10/2017 09:33

@achangeisgonnacome

Where is your breakfast? First two weeks of Bootcamp breakfast is mandatory!

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BIWI · 10/10/2017 09:37

@Oncewaswho

Is it possible to get enough fat without slathering all your veg in oil or butter? I don't mind a tiny bit of oil for stir-frying, but I cannot stand buttery or oily veg, I always steam them.

You're making it more difficult for yourself if you steam things, as you won't be able to get the fat. If you don't like butter melted on veg, then how about frying or roasting your veg, in olive oil?

You could also use mayo with your veg, as long as it's low carb mayo (and check the carb counts as they vary by quite a lot).

The other thing is to make sure you're eating fattier cuts of meat - belly pork rather than fillet, for example.

But is your aversion to fat based on fear of fat, do you think? For some of us, the last 30-40 years of being told that fat is the enemy has really made it difficult to accept the fact that there isn't a problem with it.

And you may also find that your taste buds change anyway, on this way of eating - especially when you realise how much easier it is to stop feeling hungry when you're eating the fat.

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InkyToesies · 10/10/2017 09:41

Good morning everyone. I want to make some mayonnaise, as it'll be cheaper and I can control what's in it too. I usuuall find all olive oil - even mild stuff - is too strong, so is it okay if I use groundnut oil instead? I hope this isn't already covered in the spreadsheet - I've looked but couldn't see anything.

78Ash · 10/10/2017 09:53

Thank you for the advice @LegoCaltrops and @Flisspaps - combined with garlic and ginger that should see any lurgy away! On the bright side the throat seems better this morning (doubled up the garlic for tea last night) - so will keep all these tips in mind for the next time (for 'tis the season).

CremeDeSudo · 10/10/2017 09:59

@Rshard I have a set of cup measurements from one of the cheap shops like Home Bargains, but you can google it. I think 1 cup is 250mls.

Regarding ketosis...how long does it take to 'get into' it?

Gammeldragz · 10/10/2017 10:01

Hello all! Finally caught up after being distracted by mumsnet classics threads! Had a carby weekend (planned) as I've been LC all year and had a meal out. Didn't go overboard. Gained 2lbs though, but that does mean I'll have a better week 1 loss than I would have done.
I lost nearly 40lbs this year doing LC, so my loss will be slower than most. But I'm well I to the habit of LC and apart from the occasional dark choc, I don't crave carby food. I love the lack of bloating on this WOE.
Making celeriac gratin today. I will have they for dinner while the family have baked potatoes. Lunch will be bacon and eggs.
Making a conscious effort to up the water again after letting that slide...
Good luck all!

Scabbersley · 10/10/2017 10:07

Is olive oil as 'good' as butter? Love olive oil.

BIWI · 10/10/2017 10:08

@LegoCaltrops

Sadly, I think that site is probably no longer actively managed; Joyce, who set it up and ran it, died recently. Although her daughter was also involved, I'm not sure if she will be continuing with it.

It's very quiet these days, not like back in the early 2000s, which is when I first discovered low carbing - so I suspect it's just quietly disappearing.

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RubyGoat · 10/10/2017 10:15

Quick question: does anyone know of a recipe in which I can use up some yoghurt in a cheesy sauce? The yoghurt is very much in date but smells & tastes slightly strange so I need to use it up. I'm thinking cauliflower cheese? Or would it split? Can't afford to throw it away.

Also, re steamers. I sometimes cook fish, chicken etc in a packet of greaseproof paper in my steamer, with butter or other fat, & herbs etc. Seal it over like this, (I usually double fold the edges instead of single, as I find that steaming with fat makes them open up). Minimal washing up if you're careful lifting it out as well. Plus, steaming doesn't seem to overcook things as badly if you leave them in for 5 minutes longer than you should have done - especially the vegetables IME.

ilovecherries · 10/10/2017 10:19

rshard. On the diet doctor site you can toggle between US and metric measures. It defaults to US but the toggle buttons are just above each recipe to change to metric.

Rshard · 10/10/2017 10:32

Thanks creme and ilove for the recipe advice

Jerm123 · 10/10/2017 10:41

Hello all,
I’m a day late in starting, but I’m sure I’ll catch up.

I tried low carbing with BIWI in 2015 and lost loads, but it has crept back on again and then some....... I need to loose it and keep it off this time.

I’m 210lbs and hope to get to 190lbs by the Christmas, but this includes the week 1 whoosh! It’s still quite a lot, so I’ll need to be super strict with myself.

Planned meals for today
B scrambled eggs with mushrooms
L chicken salad with homemade mayo ( have made a load of it with no sugar - I used the extra light Waitrose own brand for the oil)
D steak kebabs (alternating steak peppers and mushrooms) on cauliflower rice.

I have measures 3.5l Shock in the fridge and am ploughing through it.

From when I did manage to loose weight, my best tip is to plan all the meals meticulously, for the first couple of weeks until buying the right food is automatic.

Good luck to everyone!

NutButterNutter · 10/10/2017 10:43

I know it's small, but small battles and all that - I managed a late working night with NO SNACKS. Now, on with day 2!

StuntNun · 10/10/2017 10:57

I love celery but I don't like celeriac as it tastes too celery-y. Confused It's very annoying because DH doesn't like cauliflower and neither of us like avocado so we're missing out on all the classic low carb veg.

Oncewaswho a lot of us find it hard to increase our fat intake as it takes a while for the palate to adjust. Before I went low carb I would have cut all the fat off pork or beef, eaten plain boiled or steamed veggies, eaten skinless chicken breast, etc. Over time my palate has adjusted but also I think my body now recognises fat as its main energy source. When I see crispy bacon fat or chicken skin, or buttery veggies then they are a lot more appealing to me than they ever were before.

wecantallbeperfect · 10/10/2017 10:59

Hope everyone is having a good day.
B sliced bacon and egg cooked in butter
L Tuna salad with mayo
D chicken in a fresh cream and mushroom sauce

Snacks will be olives if I need them. Already on my second 750ml of water.

I can't wait for the sugar cravings to go Confused

juneavrile · 10/10/2017 11:01

inkytoesies you can use groundnut oil in mayo - or any oil. Sunflower is what is usually recommended which, like groundnut, doesn't have much flavour. It's cheaper than groundnut too.

juneavrile · 10/10/2017 11:03

My lunch today is mozzarella, green beans tossed in garlic butter and a few toasted hazelnuts.

Dinner, is roast cod, roast cauliflower, more green beans and a blob of tartare.

InkyToesies · 10/10/2017 11:06

Thank you JuneAvrile. Sunflower it is!

StuntNun · 10/10/2017 11:06

Inky I would use light and mild olive oil to make mayo. Sunflower oil is pro-inflammatory so not a healthy choice.