Pre-summer Bootcamp - our last weigh-in!

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Morning all. Very excited to hear the final scores!

Here's the Spreadsheet for its last outing this Bootcamp

We'll keep this chat thread going, and when it finishes, we'll start a new one so that we can keep the support going until next Bootcamp.

Oh Moist, sorry but I loll'ed

I've had exactly the same problem throughout LCHF, it seems people lose their shit at a fat person holding a tub of double cream

I found total strangers the worst, the number of people commenting on my shopping in Morrisons was a revelation!

I also have a very good vegan friend who i have nutrition conversations with regularly. She's also overweight but has recently started adding more fat to her diet and has stopped eating vegan versions of food like cheese etc. She has lost a stone because her meals fill her up now and she doesnt snack constantly despite the fact she now has avocado every day and adds olive oil to salads etc. She's also cut out high sugar fruits and eats more berries and less sugar generally which has done her the world of good. THis is progress because when I first started this WOE she was convinced I'd die of heart disease in the first 3 months

She claims to everyone she became a vegan because of ethical reasons (cowspiracy documentary etc) but she's admitted to me before that she thought it would be a good way to lose weight but she's reliably gained a stone every 6 months since she became vegan 2 years ago SHe's also really quite pale and her hair has gone really brittle so she's seriously considering ditching it and joining me on LCHF but the veggie version.

I think a vegan diet can be a really healthy option for someone of a healthy weight who isn't in a diet cycle, but for someone overweight who's clearly struggling with insulin resistance it's a total nightmare.

I also have a new colleague sitting next to me who is beautifully slim but exists etirely on red bull, rustlers burgers and ready meals for one in the evenings. She snacks on high sugar "breakfast biscuits", cookies and chocolate all day every day at her desk and claims the last time she ate a veggie that wasnt a potato was christmas day! I judge that much more harshly than i judge veganism or an LCHF'er, there's just no excuse for a diet like that. Worryingly she has a 7 year old who eats the same :(

Welcome Kew.

Was going to do an egg fast this week but I've run out of eggs and forgot to buy more! Breakfast today was meatballs at about 11.45.

I haven't had any unkind comments about LCHF but I've only mentioned it to a couple of people. One of friends asked me last week how I lost weight and when I told her decided to give it a go, she also mentioned that a few other school mums are following a similar WOE so where I live it seems quite a fashionable way to eat.

Also feeling so frustrated with inlaws at the moment but I am not turning to food which is taking some willpower!

It gets better

Tucking into my scrambled egg for lunch.

'Ew. Eggs. That's disgusting. It's eating unborn chickens'.

Followed by the thick tart tucking into a supermarket muffin.

Sweet lord I am surrounded by utter fools.

Hi all my 2nd day - still trying to get my head round it all - but I think I'm going to enjoy it and hopefully it will become a way of life.

Thanks for answering my questions too 🤙I'm sure I'll have more

Hi Kewcumber another newbie here. I'm intrigued to know how you downloaded the spreadsheet - I've been laboriously copying and pasting bits of it .....

Re the comments from friends and relatives - I've had "I hope you're not going all anorexic on me" as well as the usual ones of "you don't look fat" oh yes I do!! Or "it's the wind blowing your skirt out" (in a photo of me where I looked like a fat and matronly)

Distract my last pregnancy was 2014-2015 so you would have to go a way back in the Bootcamp threads to find it. The biggest challenge was in hospital after the birth. I had a bag full of almonds, olives and pork scratchings to keep me going along with whatever hospital food I could have. They kept screwing up my meals and there was one memorable occasion where the only things I could eat on the tray were the salt and pepper!

I think a few people can thrive on a vegan diet but it isn't suitable for everyone. I really hate that veganism has this aura of being a healthy diet that is completely untrue. If you want to be a vegan for ethical reasons then that's fine but don't do it because you imagine it's going to be good for your overall health.

Hello everyone, I've just spent ages catching up with the thread. Reached my 6 month marker for this woe and have been sulking as I've put on a 1lb from last week. Hey ho Can't pretend I'm not a bit hacked off but what are my options? Either carry on or don't? I'll KOKO

I really wish I'd done measurements at the start but I didn't. I only know that shamefully I was holding my trousers together with an elastic band through the button hole and round the button cos I wouldn't buy bigger trousers! So, here goes;

Height - 5ft 1in
Weight at start - 15st
Unfit, unhappy, constant pain/gerd/eczema flares etc
Seriously high BP. Was advised to add second bp medication or risk stroke
Had struggled through the menopause and 2 diagnoses of cancer and treatment in the last 4 years
Was on fluoxetine for depression and anxiety
Everything was churned up together and I couldn't separate any of it in order to deal with it in some way. Unfortunately I turned to food (again) and ended up a complete mess, mentally and physically.

The doctors just kept doling out meds which ultimately weren't helping the long term - I had to take control back somehow, and here we are

I'm still 5ft 1in
Weight - 12st 5lbs (was 12.4 last week!)
Still high bp but on one tablet now and the trend is down
No pain medications
No anti depressants
Eczema has settled
Still on asthma meds and take amitryptaline for nerve damage (from chemo)
But all in all I'm just a much happier person. I feel as though I have some control back. I know I have just over 3st to lose but crikey, that's better than 6st!

Egg Fast That's brave! I might join in the next one if I stall for a while.....

These threads have been great for me, I love reading all the NSV's and it's a strange sort of comfort knowing that we all trip up but it's the getting back onto it that really makes the difference

Hi bella that is a great result, especially the reduced meds. Well done.
Welcome Kewcumber You have found your people. Shout up if you have any questions.
MOIST your posts made me laugh. Not the content, but your eloquent posting. You are indeed surrounded by fools.

Some one at work today overheard me saying that I don't eat sugar, to which they replied 'you should try bananas and apples. They are full of GOOD sugar'
Er, no - there is no such thing as 'good' sugar.

Bella Wow! That is an amazing change in 6 months! Well done!

Moist Those comments would do my head in, if someone is a vegan for ecological/ethical reasons then fine, but don't try and tell people that our bodies can't cope with meat, we are omnivores for christs sake, even my 4 year old knows that!

Had to pick up a quick lunch from the shop today, ended up with tandoori chicken pieces and salad leaves, (no mayo or dressing), just got home and feel like I need to get some fat in me!

Yesterday:
B fasting
L salmon with courgette and asparagus
D lamb steak with roasted broccoli and green beans

First time roasting broccoli and it was delicious, will definitely be having again!

I'm an egg fast dropout. Or at least converting to Egg Fast Lite. I cannot eat another egg today

Everyone knows at least one freaky vegan, the vegan GF of someone I'm related to had a dream that his boarder collie wanted to be a vegetarian!!!!! I kid you not, that poor dog was never the same again and became dangerously aggressive, he started biting people which they seemed to find amusing. I wasn't very amused when they came to stay and he bit me, I insisted on a muzzle from that moment on because of the DC but I will confess to feeding him meat whenever they weren't around.

So day two of the eggblast
Last night I had the most awful flatulence - not funny at the best of times but with my paralysis affecting my descending colon there is no natural escape for mine so I looked as if someone had taken a bicycle pump and shoved it up my bottom and inflated me from within. The only way out is massage and unfortunately changing position, literally any change of position created an explosion all night long. I was thankful that DH is jet lagged and went out like a light.

I was knackered after a night of duvet wafting so slept late this morning.

B sleep
L two hb eggs with butter
D two egg omelette with courgette and cheese

10:00 - 2 boiled eggs, 1tbsp mayo, 1tbsp butter.
12:30 - 2 boiled eggs, 2tbsp butter.
5:30 - 2 baked eggs, 2tbsp butter, 25g cheddar.

Really wasn't looking forward to eggs for dinner but they were lovely. Amazed I've done two days already, one more day of just eggs, then I will have a normal dinner on Thursday evening.

c4 I did get some very painful trapped wind last night, just after I went to bed. Massage moved it on. But it wasn't nice!

moist even my 11 year old could spot the flaw in your friends logic as we would all have to chow down on other humans.

bella you are an inspiration

I am in Costco tucking into a delicious hotdog (minus bun of course) my trolley looks like the poster child for LCHF.

Think I need to go easy on the salted almonds though. I'm a bit obsessive about making sure I don't get hungry.

It's funny but I found myself obsessing more about food on the (short lived) egg fast more than on the whole of BC. I can honestly say I haven't craved bread, biscuits, cake etc but after a day of egg fast I was staring longingly at the Greek Yogurt in the fridge and feeling properly bingey. I think the egg fast is a step of deprivation too far for me, happy to be back on BC.

Hello campers.

moist I'm sorry to hear you are surrounded by fools and twats. You are proving them all wrong as you steadily lose weight and become fitter and healthier. Then they will be all up in your grill asking how you did it having conveniently forgotten you had told them and they dismissed it.

Welcome to kew . Great name. Before bc i found I had become obsessive about avoiding hunger and would overeat as a result. This was because I got all shaky and dizzy after a while due to blood sugar crash. Not any more. Such an even keel I don't believe now. It's great. I've beat that sugar monkey.

c4 you made me smile at the thought of all the duvet wafting! I've been a bit loose around the gills this week and the farts are slippery and could kill a penguin at 20 paces.

bella what fab success you've had. I laughed at I'm still 5ft 1in.

Well - I'm done with the egg fast. Let's hope it has done my liver some good, because I'm having wine tonight.
We had to have our lovely 16 year old collie put to sleep tonight. Two of the kids came with me, and it was devastating. DP brought wine home, and treats for the kids. Just had my last omelette of the fast; happy to finish there. Although I'll still have omelette for breakfast and lunch tomorrow, and breakfast the next day - just going to enjoy adding something other than cheese to it. DP has complained that the constant smell of omelettes is making him feel sick, which is fair enough.

Distract I'm v sorry to here about your dog.

can ppl give me some ideas for breakfasts?
I'm reading what foods I can eat and find I can't have my usual jumbo oats that I have with fruit and yogurt for my breakfast -
This morning I had natural yogurt and stuck some blueberries in - I'm not too sure about them either

Thanks all

I feel my appetite has taken a complete nosedive. The ravenous, blood sugar fuelled hunger fests of the past went very quickly, and that was a relief. But I was still ready for my meals, even after all the snacking stopped. I don't eat breakfast because I'm doing 16:8 but I looked forward to lunch etc. But the last 10 days or so, I've totally lost interest. I'm having to remind myself to eat, and I'm not really enjoying it. I enjoyed my curry on Sat night, but other than that, most meals have just been feeling a bother. I started egg fast to see if that would help, but then only managed 3 eggs and felt dreadful last night. I did have breakfast today, but nothing since, and to be honest, have no desire to eat again today. Surely that can't be right?

secret are you going to sing a song a la Frenchie - "egg fast dropout" rather than "beauty school dropout"?

Distractotron I am really sorry to hear about your dog.

distracto so sorry about your dog. I know how hard that is. If it helps please do post some pics here if when he/she was dull of life. I'm sure we'd all love to see them. There is a bit of a tradition of pet pics on this bc and I'm a softie when it comes to furry family

Oh FFS. Of when he/she was full of life...

Shite timing for autocorrect to get pissy with me.

So sorry.

Secretsignal I'm so glad it's not just me that has found the eggblast too much, I have stuck it for a second day but I'm not sure if I will make a third.

Distractotron . I'm sorry about your dog. My old boy was a collie. Lost him at 16. He was the best dog ever. I still dream about him. And while I adore current big dog I miss my old boy and his lead still hangs in his hook.

I have got a bloody job interview tomorrow for a job I am hopelessly unqualified to do and know virtually nothing about. I am very surprised I got an interview and haven't done nearly enough planning for it. I fear they will laugh at me.

And while waiting for the boob op I saw a chap about my vein today and he wants to chop
It out . Fuuuuuuck.