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Week 6 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we're racing on!

722 replies

BIWI · 26/06/2017 07:26

Morning campers!

Here's the spreadsheet

Some good losses reported already this morning!

Four weeks left, so we could still see a good half stone disappear if we're vigilant.

The hot weather looks like it's disappearing this week, so hopefully anyone still struggling with water retention should find some relief.

But good luck to us all

Flowers
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dustmotesinthesun · 29/06/2017 08:29

Just because the thread is fast moving i'll re-post this. Anyone tried it? Is it good? I don't think i've seen it mentioned on here

Week 6 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we're racing on!
dustmotesinthesun · 29/06/2017 08:31

Also sunborn how repulsive is that sauce? I can't believe anyone thinks it's an ethical decision to see a soy sauce that is pretty much all sugar.

dustmotesinthesun · 29/06/2017 08:33

goodbad really amazing you're sticking to it. I hope you will turn around at some point and realise you've lost inches. I did low carbing a few years ago and was very strict for about 4 months. I lost about 4 pounds on the scale. My body changed so much though. So much so that when i saw someone I hadn't seen in all that time she nearly keeled over in shock. She said i looked like a different person.

The scale can mean very little.

C4pinkwheels · 29/06/2017 08:44

Morning all, I was soooo tired yesterday which is almost always a sign that I'm brewing an infection. We had a night disturbed by alarms going off left right and centre and sure enough I spiked a high temperature at 3:30am, I can't describe the fear that this causes just in case it's a chest infection which makes respiratory arrest an almost given. Out comes the stethoscope, chest sounds normal for me, next is UTI and sure enough one look at the catheter bag makes dipping it almost pointless.
Antibiotics started, more alarms at 4:50am with bp of 89/41 and raging ear ache.
So I will have the joy of phoning the GP and I can have the same conversation that I've had hundreds of times where the gate keeper of hell receptionist says:
"we haven't got any appointments"
I say "I need a home visit"
she says "home visits are for elderly and housebound patients only"
I then reel off everything that's wrong with me ending with "0h and the paralysis means walking is pretty difficult and because of my diaphragm, until my temperature stabilises I have to stay on my ventilator"
if I'm really lucky it will be the smart arse one who says "well your not on it now are you"
Because I really really want to say "namaste bitch" before I hang up and get my second home the high dependency ward to stick a rocket up the arse of the receptionist and get a doctor to my front door.

I have a bad feeling about this - more than one infection almost certainly means IV antibiotics and an inpatient stay on the high dependency ward. DH is going to work and is supposed to be going to some fancy pants dinner tonight, because he's in denial an optimist.
I can't imagine doing LCHF in hospital but they already know I won't eat hospital food and they will clear a shelf in the staff room fridge for me. I was described by one HCA as a food snob and that was before bootcamp!! Next time I go in I will be taking a shed load of pork scratchings and avocados with me which will probably make me a dirty bitch of a food snob.

Food today:

I have no appetite but I know I must eat so

B. Boiled egg with dippy celery
L. Cold meat, salad, olives
D. Mince with cauliflower rice and Savoy cabbage.

Nameless no problem, I'm complicated lots of people don't get me.

Jiminny you're incredible and stronger than you realise. With everything you have going on right now you had endless excuses to give up, eat some poison carbs. Instead you're throwing tractor tyres and giving your PT a ride, please tell me you were chanting "namaste bitches, my fat can piss right off" while you were doing it.

JiminnyCricket · 29/06/2017 08:53

C4 I wasn't chanting, but I did scream 'you're a bloody sadist!!' At her twice.. not my finest moment!

I have yoga today at lunch, desperate for a good stretch and a head clearing session so it's good timing! Didn't walk the dogs this morning because I couldn't get out of bed so I'll do that tonight too.

boldlygoingsomewhere · 29/06/2017 09:13

Jiminny, that sort of workout is my worst nightmare! I much prefer gentle stuff like yoga/Pilates. Smile

I really appreciate people posting about their struggles because it makes me realise I'm not alone. I don't have time for very lengthy posts most days so it's useful to hear the advice that's given to others.

Totally understand the despondency about weighing and weight gain when you've been working hard. It's why I decided not to weigh at all on this bootcamp and look for NSVs instead.

Flowers For all who are struggling a bit - KOKO.

hippadoppaloppagorillapig · 29/06/2017 09:13

Forgot to post earlier, the Tesco Finest Vanilla Chai tea is a new discovery of mine. It's absolutely lovely, I had 2 yesterday!

Food today:
B - scrambled egg & chorizo
L - tuna mayo on romaine boats
D - roast pork & buttered cabbage

dustmotesinthesun · 29/06/2017 09:25

c4 hoping all infections bugger off. That sounds so scary. Fingers crossed a doctor comes and sees you soon.

Sunborn · 29/06/2017 09:28

I know, @dustmotes, once I stopped feeling sick, I was really angry. (I bought it from Lidl ftr - although it's been in my cupboard for ages so I can't take it back).

I ate a good 1/3 of the bowl, too. I was eating so fast that it took a while for the WRONG to dawn. And for a while I was wondering if it was the 100% dark chocolate I'd just eaten warping my taste buds.

I weighed the putrid liquid left in the bottle before throwing it away, though, and worked out I put 10ml over the food. So at a generous estimate, I consumed 5ml (probably less) - which is only 2.5g carbs.

And weirdly, I now don't regret the experience, as I think it's taught me something about measuring my mistakes. Normally I don't log the carbs I eat when I break because I feel too guilty and angry, but because this wasn't my fault, I did log. And it wasn't that bad, and I feel like I'm still in control.

So hopefully I can take that forward to when/if I do make mistakes myself.

I have a weird 'technical' question. After enjoying Montezuma's 'Absolute Black' 100% dark chocolate (8g carbs) I went to look at the Hotel Chocolat options - as I remembered they had fancy 100% chocolate bars.

Strangely, their 100% chocolate bars are all around 20g carbs. Even though both theirs and Montezuma's list 'cocoa mass' as the only ingredient.

How is this possible?

Out of curiosity, I looked at some of their other chocolate, and the 90% dark is higher in carbs (although lower in sugar) than the 85%.

Does anyone have any explanations for this?

(Attached a picture of the 100% dark bar from Hotel Chocolat - the Montezuma Nutritional Info is 601 cal per 100g, 8g carbs

Week 6 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we're racing on!
TimeIhadaNameChange · 29/06/2017 09:30

Jiminny - that reminds me of when I used to go to a gym, many years ago. I remember asking the owner, when she gave me the induction, if she used to be the school bully!!! Luckily she took it in the way I intended.

Yesterday was grand. I had:
B - nothing
L - salad with lettuce, tomatoes, cucumber, pepper and salami, with olive oil and sage; Babybel and Skyr with double cream
S - 2 slices of corned beef
D - pasta sauce: chicken, bacon, onion and mushrooms, with cream cheese and a dash of milk.
4 coffees during the course of the day.

Today was my official 6 week weigh-in (started just before BC) and I'm thrilled to say that I've lost 9 pounds altogether!!!!! Am really pleased with the average of 1.5 lbs per week. Hoping for more of the same over the next 7 days.

StuntNun · 29/06/2017 09:43

That sounds very scary C4, keep us updated. Next time you see the doctor you could ask about having a note put on your file to say that you need to be prioritised for home visits. We got one put in DS1's file saying that his prescriptions need to be dispensed two weeks early (because the pharmacist needs to order controlled drugs in specially) and it comes up on the screen as soon as anyone accesses his file. I don't know whether that would help with jobsworth receptionists but you never know.

Is anyone near enough to C4 to do an emergency low carb food drop?

secretsignal · 29/06/2017 09:44

C4 sorry you're having such a tough time and the receptionists aren't making it any easier. I often think people who work in healthcare should not be working in healthcare. There should be some sort of test for basic compassion Flowers

JiminnyCricket · 29/06/2017 09:46

sunborn the fat content will be higher in the 85% so for the same weight you get more fat, less carb :)

JiminnyCricket · 29/06/2017 09:47

I'm about an hour away from you C4 if you need a food drop :)

SummerSazz · 29/06/2017 10:17

I've been pretty quiet this boot camp as lost 19lbs from Jan - early April and then stallled. I've been up and down with the same 1/2 stone ever since between 11.3 and 11.10 which has been ok but pretty demoralising. I had a gain of 5lbs overnight after one meal out 😮.

However this week I have had a 'whoosh' of 7lbs from 11.7 to 11.0. I've been doing some swimming this week so maybe that is the magic ingredient although I have been doing exercise dvds and running since Jan.

I'm excited about getting into the 10's and hope I don't bounce back up from here. Overall it is 26lbs in 25 weeks but very lumpy losses.

6 years ago I lost 4 stone down to 10st but managed to go up to nearly 13 from sept 15 to Jan 17. This time it needs to stay off!

Flowers for those who have mobility struggles and battles with overwhelming cravings. Everyone is doing so well in their own way x

ChesterDrawers · 29/06/2017 11:02

Thank you for all your kind comments yesterday, I am feeling so much better today although still no sign of AF, which I’m sure would improve things no end. Sadly declutterer and babysitter are out as DH hates having people he doesn’t know in the house. I did sort through my floordrobe last night which has made me feel a bit calmer.

DoggyDrawers is in a bad way though. We brought her home last night but she started bleeding quite badly from the wound on her head (had a suspicious lump removed) so we had to take her in for a second operation. They kept her in overnight and we’re still waiting to hear how she is. DH rang earlier and all they could say was she was ‘comfortable’. It was very distressing for us and poor DS was really upset.

In positive news, I did dodge a very large carby bullet yesterday. After we left the vets for the second time, it was late and DS hadn’t eaten so we stopped at the chippy to get his tea. I just ordered what he wanted then went home, only to open up the hugest portion of chips in the world. DS ate less than a quarter of them. They smelled amazing but not one chip passed my lips and once DS had finished, I threw them in the bin! Then I made sausages, swede and celeriac mash, and creamed leeks and spinach, which was amazing.

Not eaten yet today as appetite has vanished while waiting to hear from the vet, but will pop to M&S at lunch for some nice bits to tempt me.

JiminnyCricket · 29/06/2017 11:09

UUUUUUURGH!!

MiL has started taking those awful fat binding tablets that stop you absorbing fat from your diet Sad

She called me all excited last night to tell me about it, because apparently the side effects are "very like not having a gall bladder so you have to eat a low fat diet as well"... Absolutely loved telling her that I don't have a gall bladder and my body is currently fuelled by butter and lard, and I have no side effects from that what so ever and in fact my side effects from no gall bladder (dry skin and hair, lethargy etc) cleared up the minute I started eating LCHF Grin

Anyway she won't be told. She's spending £60 A MONTH on these pills and is convinced they'll mean she can eat her slimming world diet but it will make it more effective. I pointed out that if she's eating a low fat diet anyway and still not losing weight, reducing her fat absorbtion by 30% wont reduce her calories by much at all. 30% of not very much is also not very much! SO for example, if she's consuming 20g fat a day and the tablets take away 30% of that, there's 9cals per gram of fat so she's only actually reducing her in take of calories by 54 cals... that's an apple a day. You have to consume 3000 calories less than you expend to lose 1lb of fat, so if you run the numbers she's actually paying £60 to lose 0.54lbs extra per month. She also pays £26.65 a month for slimming world and if you say she probably loses 1lbs a week when she sticks to it as a very generous estimation, she's effectively paying £19.08 per lb lost not including food. If she lost the 8st she wants to and assuming she stuck to it religiously and everything worked as it should... she'll be paying £2,137.62 in subscription fees for the privilage. It would also take her 28 months, again assuming she stuck to Slimming world and the fat loss pills religiously.

I love maths Grin

I also pointed out that some fats are essential and reducing her intake further will make her hair go brittle, skin dry out etc etc. These are all things I struggled with after gall bladder removal before I started LCHF. It's recommended that adults consume no less than 20% of their caloric intake from fats even on low fat diets, but I worked out hers is already at about 10% on Slimming World, with a whopping 75% from carbs Shock

It's baffling. Confused

This is all because she wants to be thinner for the wedding, with the amount she goes on about "her dress" and "her photos" you'd think she was the bloody bride Angry

Sorry, /rant.

ASDismynormality · 29/06/2017 11:15

JiminnyCricket. I used them in the past and they were very effective, weightloss was quick but of course I didn't stick to it. They were what I needed at the time to stay on track. Maybe it will stop your MIL from cheating on her diet with all the cake she seems to eat! Different diets for different people.

FinallyHere · 29/06/2017 11:23

Oh dear Jiminny isn't it frustrating when there is no listening for something brilliant which you have just discovered?

Sunborn. I'm puzzled about the whole different carb vales for very dark chocolate. My bar of choice is usually Lindt 90% (14/100g carbs). Their 99% is 8/100g carbs but the whole bar weighs only 50g

Picked up a bar of Montezuma 100% 8.6/100g carbs, so more cards in 100% than in 99% bar.

puzzlin'. Very puzzlin'

Sunborn · 29/06/2017 11:35

@Jiminny - no! That's terrible. Poor her, what a lot of money to waste in such an unhealthy way.

@FinallyHere yeah - I really don't understand how pure cocoa mass can be 8.6g carbs in one bar and 22g in another bar. It makes me worried that the lower counts aren't accurate or something =/.

JiminnyCricket · 29/06/2017 11:37

ASDismynormality I have no problem with her using them if they make her feel better, it's the fact she thinks they are "the answer" and that I should try them too that makes me want to stick pins in things!

AdalindSchade · 29/06/2017 11:38

She needs to eat I think 5g fat per meal for them to be effective anyway, which if she's on slimming world she won't be. So they are an expensive placebo. Silly woman

C4pinkwheels · 29/06/2017 11:39

Given up waiting for a GP and HDU have asked me to go straight in. I'm just making some cloud bread and making a massive picnic.

My sewing group will swing into action and deliver soup everyday, my PA will cook meals for DH to bring as well. But nobody has said I'm staying in yet.

Part of the issue with my GP practice is that one of the senior partners is partly responsible for putting me in a wheelchair, they would rather I went somewhere else but I didn't do anything wrong so I won't go. I'm a really expensive patient too and I don't think it's fair to make someone else pick up the tab for them.
There is supposed to be a note on my file to alert the gatekeeper of hell receptionist that I'm critically ill and need immediate attention.

AdalindSchade · 29/06/2017 11:44

I'm assuming you have filed complaints about the receptionist and practice! What idiots

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