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Low-carb bootcamp

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Preparing for the pre-summer Low Carb Bootcamp - starting next week!

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BIWI · 16/05/2017 08:59

Morning all!

So next week sees the start of our next Bootcamp. It will last, as usual, for 10 weeks, so will take us nicely up to the summer/school holidays.

If you're going to join us, and especially if you haven't low carbed before, it's really important that you plan for it, and start to think about what you're going to shop for, cook and eat. Failing to plan ahead is one of the key reasons why most people drop out early on!

The first two weeks of Bootcamp are the strictest, but after this period, things relax a little. The idea of the initial strict phase is to ensure that you switch your body from burning carbs, to burning fat.

Overall, these are the foods that you won't be eating at all during Bootcamp:

bread in any form
pasta/noodles
rice
potatoes
sugar (which includes honey/agave syrup/maple syrup)
chocolate
flour

During the stricter first two weeks, you also exclude:

fruit
nuts
alcohol

The idea of Bootcamp is that it's easy to follow - in that there is no weighing or counting of anything (unless you want to). Just follow the rules and you will be fine. However, although it's easy to follow, it's not always easy to do, because for many of us it can be such a change in eating habits and patterns.

The British diet has changed considerably in the last 50 years or so - whereas we used to be meat and two veg, plus potatoes - now, many if not most of our meals are based around carbs - pasta and sauce, or rice-based dishes, for example. And this has been compounded by government advice, which says we should base our diets on carbohydrates and avoid fat wherever we can.

When you're low carbing, you'll be reversing that, which feels very alien! So instead of a diet which is carbs:protein:fat, you'll be switching it round to fat:protein:carbs.

In the first few days of low carbing, especially if you've been eating a high carb diet for a long time, you may start to feel pretty rubbish

This is called carb flu - essentially you're withdrawing from sugar, which is a highly addictive substance. Your body treats carbs in the same way as it does sugar, and you may find it quite hard going to lose the sugar from your diet.

However, it generally passes quickly and once you're through it - if you suffer; not everyone does - you'll find that you feel great and full of energy. If you do suffer, up your salt intake (as we drink a lot of water, it's important that we keep our sodium intake higher) and also your fat. Take some paracetamol if you feel headachey, and just remind yourself that it's a good thing!

*Planning your meals is a really good idea. Have a look at the top of the Bootcamp topic, and you'll find a Bootcamp recipe thread - loads of lovely recipes there to inspire you. As far as possible, try and choose meals that you can make for the whole family, so you're not having to prepare different meals. It won't harm anyone to eat a low carb meal, and you're a lot more likely to stick to it if it's easy for you to do! Think about the meals that you like that aren't so carb-heavy, and make those - so if spaghetti bolognese and chilli with rice would normally feature, swap those for meals that you can easily make low carb - e.g. salmon with salad and green veg, or roast chicken with roast veg (just not roast potatoes!). Shepherds pie can be made with a mash made from celeriac, or cauliflower, or swede.

Think about what you're going to eat during the day; on-the-go eating is really tough for low carbers, because most food outlets are based on carbs - sandwiches, burgers, muffins, etc.

Make sure you've read and understand Bootcamp rules! I'll post these separately. Print them out if it helps!

Each week, I'll start a new chat thread, and I'll post a link to the spreadsheet that we use to track our weight. (You don't have to be added to the spreadsheet if you don't want to).

On the spreadsheet, on the tabs at the bottom, are links to lots of important information, and you'll find the Bootcamp rules there. There are also links to lots of articles, blogs and videos about low carbing, which will help to inspire and inform you.

It's really important that you understand the thinking and science behind low carbing, so do as much reading as you can. It's especially important that you're armed with some key facts about it, because even though low carbing is becoming more common, you'll still find that people around you will rubbish it - mostly people can't understand why you're eating so much fat and expecting to lose weight!

Anyway, that's enough for now!

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Naschkatze · 19/05/2017 15:10

Anyone know if it's safe to do this while breastfeeding? I know diets as such are not recommended but I'm feeling pretty disheartened at the amount of baby weight I'm still carrying (heaviest I've ever been). My problem is that I am actually hungry and craving carbs all the time while feeding!
I'm assuming that I'll still be able to get the calories and nutrients I need doing something like this?

BIWI · 19/05/2017 16:58

Naschkatze - the general consensus is that you're better to do Bootcamp Light while you're breast feeding.

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Naschkatze · 19/05/2017 17:14

Thank you. What does that involve? Or does it just mean skipping the stricter two weeks?
Sorry, completely new to the weight loss boards!

Naschkatze · 19/05/2017 20:02

I've just found the rules for 'light' on the spreadsheet for the last thread - thanks. I'm going to plan meals for next week and give it a go.

feekerry · 19/05/2017 21:24

I am another who has damaged teeth from those m and s crackling things!!!!!

My tip for newbies would be learn to read labels. So many times I have presumed something is low in carbs and it's not or there can be big variation between brands and supermarkets.
For example one brand of green pesto is 10.4g per 100g and another supermarket brand is 2.9g per 100g

BIWI · 19/05/2017 21:39

Oh yes. There can be a massive disparity between brands/types of products. You should always check the labels!

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Asmoto · 19/05/2017 21:52

I've just had a lovely cheese omelette, cooked in butter Smile. I'm basking in how much I enjoyed it.

Bibs2014 · 19/05/2017 21:59

Are we allowed flaxseed on Bootcamp?

BIWI · 20/05/2017 07:34

Sorry but no. There are 29g carbs per 100g of flaxseed, so it's way too carby.

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lovelycuppateas · 20/05/2017 07:43

I'm in! Seriously have gone off the wagon, and feeling awful. So grateful for the support on here!

StuntNun · 20/05/2017 09:26

Daisy due to poor planning I ended up eating 9 eggs yesterday! Blush I "boil" eggs using a fan steamer - 7 minutes for large eggs from room temperature - then run them under cold water to cool them a little which makes them easy to peel. I usually cook two extra and leave a couple in the fridge for a snack. Boiled egg dipped in mayonnaise with a little curry powder mixed in makes a very filling and delicious snack.

Time as a rule of thumb carbs should be 20-50g per day although some people do better on 20g or lower while some lucky bastards can still lose weight on 100g or even higher. There's no need to count though, just follow the rules. I would say that 800 calories is far too low for weight loss, this isn't a way of eating where less is more iyswim.

Naschkatze it is safe to do Bootcamp while breastfeeding. How old is your baby? As BIWI says we generally recommend going straight on to Bootcamp Light if you're breastfeeding. I also suggest you take a breastfeeding supplement such as Pregnacare Breastfeeding to make sure your nutritional requirements are met. You will be getting plenty of vitamins and micronutrients on low carb because you will be eating a lot of vegetables but I think it's wise to have a backup since your baby will receive the nutrients at your expense if you are deficient in anything. I ask how old your baby is because if you are still breastfeeding frequently you may have more of a problem with carb flu. If your baby is feeding more than once or twice a night then let me know and I'll advise you on how to manage your transition to low carb.

I nipped in to M&S yesterday to pick some of BIWI's pork crackling crisps (haven't tried them yet so my teeth are safe for now) and they had packets of chorizo crisps. OMG I have found my cracker replacement for cheese. I had chorizo crisps topped with some ripe Brie and it was an absolute taste sensation.

Copperas · 20/05/2017 12:03

After the first two weeks of bootcamp I am off to Italy for 2 weeks, part work, part holiday. Any suggestions on how to cope without fruit, pizza, icecream?

Craftypuss · 20/05/2017 12:19

Biwi, about flax seed - the Linwood milled flaxseed I have says 3g per 100 - that's ok, isn't it? 10 weeks without a MIM could be more rhan I can take! (Says she, hopefully, drooling at the thought of a savoury MIM - based on the one on the recipe thread!Smile)

Asmoto · 20/05/2017 13:14

I've just done a Lidl shop and stocked my fridge with cold meats, fish and pate to snack on if I feel the need Grin

OldBooks · 20/05/2017 13:53

Copperas there are lots of Italian dishes that are a large piece of meat or fish with veg, and lots of salad - the classic avocado, tomato and mozzarella salad covered in olive oil and fresh basil would be a fab breakfast. Resisting the ice cream I can't help you with...

BIWI · 20/05/2017 14:52

@Craftypuss 3g per 100g is fine then! No idea why a Google gave such a high level Hmm

@Copperas you don't have to have fruit or pizza. Nor is ice-cream essential Grin I get that you're on holiday though. But Italian food, generally, is usually pretty easy to navigate around, as OldBooks says. Lots of veg and salad, with fish and meat should be lovely!

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BIWI · 20/05/2017 15:14

OK - here's a reminder of Bootcamp rules:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)"

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too carby), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of Bootcamp, but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium, magnesium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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Bibs2014 · 20/05/2017 16:29

Are chickpeas / pulses allowed?

socialengineering · 20/05/2017 16:59

Jiminycricket - what max carbs do you stick too per day?

BIWI · 20/05/2017 16:59

Nope. Too carby I'm afraid.

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JiminnyCricket · 20/05/2017 17:08

social 25g max :)

BIWI · 20/05/2017 17:11

... but you might find, @socialengineering, that you can tolerate more than that!

Everyone has a different amount of carbs that they can consume before they start to gain weight.

25g carbs per day is very low, and you might not need to go that low.

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socialengineering · 20/05/2017 17:23

Thanks! I've been aiming for 20g and need some recipe inspiration. Now my youngest has turned three I thought I better loose the 7 STONE I bulked on during my pregnancies!!!!

Craftypuss · 20/05/2017 17:27

Thanks for that about flaxseed, Biwi - that's a relief!

Naschkatze · 20/05/2017 19:08

@StuntNun

Thank you - baby is 12 weeks old. At the moment (for the last couple of weeks) he only feeds once in the night. I'm still regularly taking a supplement.
I would really appreciate any tips - this is a completely new way of eating for me.

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