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Low-carb bootcamp

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Preparing for the pre-summer Low Carb Bootcamp - starting next week!

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BIWI · 16/05/2017 08:59

Morning all!

So next week sees the start of our next Bootcamp. It will last, as usual, for 10 weeks, so will take us nicely up to the summer/school holidays.

If you're going to join us, and especially if you haven't low carbed before, it's really important that you plan for it, and start to think about what you're going to shop for, cook and eat. Failing to plan ahead is one of the key reasons why most people drop out early on!

The first two weeks of Bootcamp are the strictest, but after this period, things relax a little. The idea of the initial strict phase is to ensure that you switch your body from burning carbs, to burning fat.

Overall, these are the foods that you won't be eating at all during Bootcamp:

bread in any form
pasta/noodles
rice
potatoes
sugar (which includes honey/agave syrup/maple syrup)
chocolate
flour

During the stricter first two weeks, you also exclude:

fruit
nuts
alcohol

The idea of Bootcamp is that it's easy to follow - in that there is no weighing or counting of anything (unless you want to). Just follow the rules and you will be fine. However, although it's easy to follow, it's not always easy to do, because for many of us it can be such a change in eating habits and patterns.

The British diet has changed considerably in the last 50 years or so - whereas we used to be meat and two veg, plus potatoes - now, many if not most of our meals are based around carbs - pasta and sauce, or rice-based dishes, for example. And this has been compounded by government advice, which says we should base our diets on carbohydrates and avoid fat wherever we can.

When you're low carbing, you'll be reversing that, which feels very alien! So instead of a diet which is carbs:protein:fat, you'll be switching it round to fat:protein:carbs.

In the first few days of low carbing, especially if you've been eating a high carb diet for a long time, you may start to feel pretty rubbish

This is called carb flu - essentially you're withdrawing from sugar, which is a highly addictive substance. Your body treats carbs in the same way as it does sugar, and you may find it quite hard going to lose the sugar from your diet.

However, it generally passes quickly and once you're through it - if you suffer; not everyone does - you'll find that you feel great and full of energy. If you do suffer, up your salt intake (as we drink a lot of water, it's important that we keep our sodium intake higher) and also your fat. Take some paracetamol if you feel headachey, and just remind yourself that it's a good thing!

*Planning your meals is a really good idea. Have a look at the top of the Bootcamp topic, and you'll find a Bootcamp recipe thread - loads of lovely recipes there to inspire you. As far as possible, try and choose meals that you can make for the whole family, so you're not having to prepare different meals. It won't harm anyone to eat a low carb meal, and you're a lot more likely to stick to it if it's easy for you to do! Think about the meals that you like that aren't so carb-heavy, and make those - so if spaghetti bolognese and chilli with rice would normally feature, swap those for meals that you can easily make low carb - e.g. salmon with salad and green veg, or roast chicken with roast veg (just not roast potatoes!). Shepherds pie can be made with a mash made from celeriac, or cauliflower, or swede.

Think about what you're going to eat during the day; on-the-go eating is really tough for low carbers, because most food outlets are based on carbs - sandwiches, burgers, muffins, etc.

Make sure you've read and understand Bootcamp rules! I'll post these separately. Print them out if it helps!

Each week, I'll start a new chat thread, and I'll post a link to the spreadsheet that we use to track our weight. (You don't have to be added to the spreadsheet if you don't want to).

On the spreadsheet, on the tabs at the bottom, are links to lots of important information, and you'll find the Bootcamp rules there. There are also links to lots of articles, blogs and videos about low carbing, which will help to inspire and inform you.

It's really important that you understand the thinking and science behind low carbing, so do as much reading as you can. It's especially important that you're armed with some key facts about it, because even though low carbing is becoming more common, you'll still find that people around you will rubbish it - mostly people can't understand why you're eating so much fat and expecting to lose weight!

Anyway, that's enough for now!

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BIWI · 18/05/2017 15:43

Have you checked out our recipe thread? There are lots of good veggie recipes on there!

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BIWI · 18/05/2017 16:05

Preparing

As we approach the weekend, and - presumably - a time when a lot of your food shopping is going to get done, now is the time to think hard about what you're going to buy/cook for next week.

It's also a very good time to sort through your cupboards and eat get rid of all carby stuff that's likely to tempt you.

A really good idea is to stock up the fridge with yummy low carb treats that you can grab if you get hungry, or get in late, etc. Stuff like cheese, celery, cucumber, olives, paté, cold cooked (low carb sausages) and hard boiled eggs are all great to have to hand.

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PlymouthMaid1 · 18/05/2017 16:25

Hi there - I have been reading these bootcamp thread all year and playing with less carbs in the diet. It def suits me to eat very low carbs but can be tricky as a non meat eater but not impossible. I am going to have a real try this time as I really need to lose some weight (anything between 1 and 4 stone would be cool) as I am at an awkward age (54) and it isn't going to get easier. Not sure if I will remember to update spreadsheets but I will be following and perhaps posting menus and seeking advice. The think is find hardest is keeping resolve when the OH loves his spuds so much.

imustbepatient · 18/05/2017 17:55

Please can I join in too? I have been on a couple of boot camps but dipped out of the last one, stupidly.

I have been eating more or less low carb for ages now and it definitely is the best way for me to eat. But occasionally I get persuaded by eg a personal trainer to add in pulses etc, which I do and then inevitably stay the same weight or gain, then have to start over again. And carb flu is a bitch, especially as I get it every time I go into ketosis. You'd think that would be enough incentive, wouldn't you...

I also tend to gain when on holiday, although I am getting better at not going mad when away ignores the chips I had when up north with each evening meal at Easter

Anyway, I had been logging everything on MFP but got sick of doing that (I think it makes me a bit obsessive and stressed about the whole thing, rather than it just being my way of life). And I got sick of weighing myself to ever fluctuating results. So in the last few weeks I've been not logging, not weighing, and just following keto / Bootcamp principles to get back on track. I'm feeling so much better now, and the timing of starting this boot camp is ideal. I am determined to do this, to be a size or two down by the school holidays and generally just want to feel raring to go, energy and health-wise.

I'm not going to weigh myself during it, just at the start and the end. In the middle I will go with how I feel, bloating, clothes fitting etc.

Good luck everyone!

marioncole · 18/05/2017 18:45

Looking forward to getting going. I've been low carbing for about a month and I've lot 7lbs. I had a blip last weekend for DS's birthday (cake, gin to recover from party, kebab for the hangover 😳) but then I got quickly back on track.

BIWI I broke my front tooth on one of those M&S crackling things. Going to cost me £500 to repair 😩

BIWI · 18/05/2017 19:31

Oh no marion! I'm really surprised, though, as they're actually pretty light compared to other pork scratchings Sad

Have you thought about suing?!

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ImALurkerNotAFighter · 18/05/2017 19:33

Can anyone think of low carb non fridge food I could keep in a bag in a warm room for a morning?
Occasionally I don't get a lunchbreak. If this happens i won't have access to a fridge or shop. Its not often this happens but the contingency plan at the moment is my assistant feeds me biscuits, not ideal on bootcamp!

ImALurkerNotAFighter · 18/05/2017 19:39

I should say low carb bootcamp acceptable. Brazils or pecans were the best I could come up with!

Kleptronic · 18/05/2017 21:10

Imalurker mini babybels, pork scratchings, boiled eggs. Tin of mackerel/tuna/sardines in oil - if you have microwave access, Sainsbos sell cauliflower rice in a bag, take some kale with you and there's a lunch.

Kleptronic · 18/05/2017 21:12

If you do boiled eggs, take a teaspoon with you to peel 'em with. Bash the broad end, slide spoon in under shell, prise - it gets the shell off easily without leaving skin behind/egg coming off with the shell.

BIWI · 18/05/2017 21:24

Tins of tuna? Or John West/Sainsbury do sachets of different flavoured tuna, so tuna with lime and black pepper, etc.

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marioncole · 18/05/2017 21:25

I really like them because they're so light.

Joking aside, it might be worth a note to M&S, I might get some freebies out of it!

marioncole · 18/05/2017 21:27

Lurker could you get an ice pack and put it in a little cool bag? You could take fridge stuff then.

ImALurkerNotAFighter · 18/05/2017 22:21

Good ideas! Thanks all

Daisy62 · 19/05/2017 08:33

StuntNun, I do eat eggs, yes... Will definitely be having lots! Intrigued by the teaspoon method of peeling hardboiled eggs upthread too.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 19/05/2017 09:55

I know we don't have to keep a food diary, but, just for interest's sake, what is the rough number of total carbs we're looking at per day?

I started yesterday, as a warm-up to Monday, and by putting it into an online diary thing I seem to have eaten about 15g of carbs all in, which I suspect is far too much. The biggest culprits were yoghurt (about 5g), Milk (4g) and the hummous (3g) which I bought the other day thinking it was ok and don't want to waste, so will eat both packs before Monday.

As an aside I ate fewer than 800 cals, and that was with me forcing myself to eat another wee helping of yoghurt for dinner, as I really wasn't hungry, despite me cycling to and from work which I don't usually do. I also found it fairly hard to get to sleep, despite not having any coffee in the evening (only had 3 cups all day, it's usually more like 7). I just wasn't really tired. And when I got up this morning, despite having to be up half an hour before usual I felt fine. Really odd. (I usually need about 9 hours sleep and I'm still tired; reckon I had 6 last night.)

Started the day with a lovely fry-up which should keep me going til lunch, save for a Babybel I've brought in for a morning snack.

JiminnyCricket · 19/05/2017 10:07

TimeIhadaNameChange Hey :)

There's nothing wrong with keeping a food diary. I do because I have some deep seated issues with food, so I plan all my meals in MFP on a Saturday for the following week. Takes the guess work out of food for me :)

You're aiming for under 25g of carbs a day, 70% of cals from fat and 30% from protien and on average you need at least 1200 cals a day to stop you stalling. Anything under that means you're not having enough fat and it will be much harder for you to hit sustainable ketosis. The odd day under that wont be a problem, but you need to aim for 1200 most days.

You don't need to force yourself to eat, but you DO need to add more fat to your food. Each gram of fat has approx 9 calories, so if you're eating enough of it hitting 1200 cals a day wont be a problem. Cook in butter, add olive oil to salad and fry things in coconut oil.

On this WOE you NEED fat for energy and to keep you in ketosis, you wont lose weight faster by not eating it.. trust me, been there! Blush. All that will happen is the lack of fat will slow your metabolism right down and you can actually start storing more rather than burning it. If you eat plenty of fat, you're in a fat adapted state already due to lack of glycogen stores from carbs and still working at a caloric deficit, so the extra cals you need to live will be accessed easily from your stored fat because you're already in fat burning ketosis, but still have enough energy from your nutritional intake to keep your metabolism up. It's a balance :)

25gs of carb or lower is about right while you're trying to get into ketosis (first 2 weeks of BC), after that you can increase up to 50g without kicking yourself out of ketosis usually. This is different for everyone though. Personally, I stay close to or under 25gs a day, all of which comes from leafy greens etc.

Eating your veg is so so important, so use your carbs for these :)

JiminnyCricket · 19/05/2017 10:10

Oh and on the sleep thing, you sound like I was the first week. I got about 5 hours sleep in 3 days and functioned completely fine. It was so wierd. It's a common side effect of keto adaption though and it does settle down. Nightol might help for a few days though if you're worried :)

JiminnyCricket · 19/05/2017 10:19

Last nights dinner (I've been BC'ing since Feb)

Monkfish tail wrapped in Parma ham with cabbage cooked in butter and garlic with chorizo, olives, manchego and green pesto - 606 cals, 8.4g carb

Preparing for the pre-summer Low Carb Bootcamp - starting next week!
TimeIhadaNameChange · 19/05/2017 10:22

Thanks, Jiminny,

Don't worry, I wasn't planning on eating so little, I just really, really didn't want anything to eat last night, and by the time I stopped sorting stuff out in the garden and came in it was 9 o' clock (something else I didn't plan on doing, I just got carried away sorting a shed out) and I just couldn't be arsed cooking. Hence the yoghurt.

I'll make sure I stick with my plan for dinner, though, and eat it much earlier. I have a nice steak, with a creamy sauce which I'll have with lots of spinach and peppers (though green, not red). I've got some pepper with me for lunch, and olives, so hopefully my veg (and calorie) intake will be higher today. Hopefully I can get a decent amount of sleep tonight, too, as I need to be up ridiculously early.

Anyway, thanks ever so much for your really detailed reply. I shall imagine you're my conscience on my shoulder if (when) I start to deviate from the rules!!!!!

JiminnyCricket · 19/05/2017 11:15

Grin dinner sounds awesome, enjoy!

Nyancat · 19/05/2017 11:43

BIWI thank you for running another one of these. I dropped out of the last one (phone issues meant I couldn't log my stats and I lost it from there). But thanks to you and your bootcamps I have a stone and a half off since Halloween, am finally back into my pre baby clothes (6 years and two children later) and am running again consistently. Thank you! I'm back on for this one determined to get this last half stone shifted!!

BIWI · 19/05/2017 13:55

@TimeIHadANameChange

I started yesterday, as a warm-up to Monday, and by putting it into an online diary thing I seem to have eaten about 15g of carbs all in, which I suspect is far too much

Why do think it's too much?! This is a low carb diet, not a no carb diet Smile

The biggest culprits were yoghurt (about 5g), Milk (4g) and the hummous (3g) which I bought the other day thinking it was ok and don't want to waste, so will eat both packs before Monday.

All of these are fine - in moderation.

If you're doing Bootcamp, we don't count carbs OR calories. The whole point of Bootcamp is that it's easy to follow. (Not necessary easy to do - the clue is in the name Grin)

So no weighing or counting of anything. Just follow the rules, and you'll be fine.

Apart from the fact that I'm too lazy to weigh or count anything, which why Bootcamp is like that, the other reason for not specifying a daily amount of carbs is that we're all different, and some people can tolerate more carbs on a daily basis than others.

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BIWI · 19/05/2017 13:56

@Nyancat - thank you!

But it was you that did the hard work, not me! I'm sure you'll be able to shed the last bit of weight Flowers

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TimeIhadaNameChange · 19/05/2017 14:53

Thanks for your reply, BIWI - I think I was under the impression I was aiming for under 10g carbs a day! Glad to hear I'm not. And I won't really keep a cal count, I was just curious as to how much, exactly, I had eaten yesterday, as I knew it couldn't have been that much yet I seemed nicely full.

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