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Low-carb bootcamp

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Week 4 - Pre-summer Low Carb Bootcamp: are you KOKO?!

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BIWI · 06/06/2016 07:40

Morning all!

Here's the Spreadsheet of Doom Fabulousness

Week 3 might not have been kind to you - and here's the warning that week 4 might be the same Sad

But hopefully by now you're starting to adjust to low carbing, and should be feeling some of the other benefits, even if the scales are resolutely ignoring you!

If you're struggling, come here and tell us about it. Don't self-sabotage by thinking 'oh fuck it' and diving into the carbs!

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Wintersea · 07/06/2016 09:12

Hopefully examining thighs and stomach for squidgy fat but knowing stomach always looks like that)

Veryflummoxed · 07/06/2016 09:13

Margaritasbythesea I suggest you try to keep going and not get too worried by the non weight loss (easily to say I know). I'm sure BIWI or Stuntnun or one of the other experts will be along soon with advice. My only comments would be milk in tea (I understand that, but eventually made myself realise it had to go) and wine, I know it's allowed bcl but if you're not loosing might be worth cutting out (easy for me to say as I'm a special occasion only drinker.) good luck

boldlygoingsomewhere · 07/06/2016 10:06

I've also noticed the strangely squidgy fat! It's making my c-section overhang and stretch marks look even more lovely! My cellulite had disappeared though. Grin

Patterkiller · 07/06/2016 10:07

Ooo lots of squishy fat. Lovely 😄.

regularbutpanickingabit · 07/06/2016 10:16

So just returned from the supermarket after a night of pretty much zero sleep thanks to the baby. As I am typing, I realise the main reason for going (nappies) is the thing I forgot. Oh ffs.
Anyway, supercharged bolognaise last night was delicious. Family had it on pasta, I had it with cream, spinach salad and Parmesan. Delicious.
This morning I have eaten an entire wedge of port salut cheese as I unpacked the shopping. Crap. No carbs but obviously rather a lot of dairy. Just sooo tired. First time I have wanted to dive in to a bag of biscuits as comfort. Haven't done that but the cheese was irresistible.

Will get baby to sleep soon and then have scrambled eggs to keep me going. So much work to do.

L - something with salmon for both of us. Probably with broccoli and cream.
D - making cauliflower, cheese, cream and egg topping for the rest of last night's sauce a bake it to make lc cottage pie.

DoingItForMyselfAtLast · 07/06/2016 10:23

Yay, I'm 2 pounds down on weighing this morning! That makes 11 in total. Only 3 more for the first stone.

BursarsFrogs · 07/06/2016 10:24

I didn't really eat yesterday during the day, apart from the homemade ice cream. It was definitely fatty and calorific enough, though! Dinner was some chicken soup.

I'm randomly craving toast today. It's been many many weeks since my previous toast, and I remember that being very disappointing, but I'm still craving it!

Foods today:

B: mozzarella, tomatoes and an avocado ( I was hangry in my cravings)
L: leftover chicken soup
D: pork loin and broccoli and swede mash

margaritasbythesea · 07/06/2016 11:07

Thanks Cathemeral, Buda and VeryFlummoxed

I measured my veg / milk and from food and I don't think there was more than 20g carbs in a day. The wine would have upped that those two days, but I am not drinking that in the week and I didn't have any the first two weeks.

I don't know if I can manage without dairy! Argh! I will try and limit it.

Buda - strictly speaking it's a pre-operative week-long diet. It's not unhealthy at all but it does make you very hungry. It does work. I'll pm you the details if you want to but I don't want to derail this thread. It certainly is not sustainable long term. I won't be able to do it in the next two weeks anyway as I am away working the next two weekends and it is the kind of thing that won't be catered for anywhere (and would make you look a bit mad too Grin).

Sprink · 07/06/2016 11:08

Margaritasbythesea,

Try cream instead of milk in tea/coffee. Milk contains sugar.

Also try clear spirits (vodka, gin) and clear or 'diet' mixer instead of wine (again, sugar). Avoid regular tonic. So vodka/soda or gin/slim, for example.

Those two simple changes will cut out a few unnecessary carbs (though the alcohol provides no nutritional value and will always be burned before the fat).

margaritasbythesea · 07/06/2016 11:10

Thanks Sprink. I will. DH bought me the wine and it was delicious. He drank my slimline tonic!

I will try both of those and KOKO. (small sigh)

SingToMeInFrench · 07/06/2016 11:52

Good to see some losses!

Went to the dr this morning, as I suspected my depression is back- was very upset and emotional with the dr and we have a plan sorted. But the most surprising thing is that I didn't go a buy any comfort food....in the past as soon as I'm upset I'll go straight for the chocolate and crisps. But today I didn't....feels weird, but I like that I feel I control

Wintersea · 07/06/2016 12:21

Sorry to hear about your depression singtome
Really good you avoided the emotional eating.... Flowers

WanHeda · 07/06/2016 13:01

Well done Doing!

Sorry to hear Sing, but glad you have a plan sorted - and well done in not diving into comfort food, that is an achievement to be proud of.

lisbapalea · 07/06/2016 13:02

Morning all.

I again forgot to weigh this morning but I am feeling much better after sticking religiously to the rules yesterday and definitely drinking the proper amount of water - it's amazing the difference that makes. I also think it's incredible the difference in my eating behaviour when I am logging food here compared to the days when I don't get online.

On that note....

B - FF Greek yog with CoYo and Creme Fraiche with berries
L - two slices of emmenthal, one slice of salami, 4 little gem lettuce cups filled with a spread of pate and topped with homemade coleslaw. Bit weird but was lovely!
D - not sure, will scrum in the fridge and freezer shortly for ideas...

WanHeda · 07/06/2016 13:04

Popped into Five Guys for lunch today, they do their burgers bunless if you ask, and you can have it in a bowl or wrapped in lettuce. I asked for a bacon cheeseburger and you get 2 burgers, 2 cheese slices, 2 crispy bacon, mushrooms, lettuce, pickles and mayo - and it was delicious!

Isn't it fab that we can eat at fast food places and not have to resign to calling it a "cheat day"? Grin

Week 4 - Pre-summer Low Carb Bootcamp: are you KOKO?!
Whistle73 · 07/06/2016 13:11

Wow! That sounds amazing Wanheda - I love Five Guys!

BursarsFrogs · 07/06/2016 13:26

Good thing you went to see your GP singtome, and great that there's a plan in place now. And very well done avoiding the emotional eating!

I'm actually having a really rubbish day for various reasons. I think some of it is PMS, since I've got a throbbing headache and cramps. With the hormone injections I'm on, I'm not really sure when to expect my periods this month.

It's really not the weather for a lunch of soup, so instead of chicken soup I've been shovelling some salted nuts and drinking gallons.

wan that looks yummy!

Equiem89 · 07/06/2016 13:31

I've lost 3lb since last Wednesday which I'm happy about. My weight at the start of bootcamp was 152lbs but I wasn't in the right headspace to start properly until last week when I weighed 154lbs so I've amended my starting weight to that.
My doctor has increases my dose of metformin ( I have PCOS) and im struggling with food, I look forward to eating but when the food is in front of me or after a few mouthfuls I feel really nauseous and full up, hopefully this will wear off soon

BIWI · 07/06/2016 13:41

margaritas

I wonder if someone could have a look at what I have been eating in the last few days and tell me where I am going wrong? I don't really seem to have lost any considerable weight since starting - perhaps a pound. I have lost maybe a centimeter from my waist and hips but it's an inaccurate measurement at the best of times.

Well, it's clearly a loss though, isn't it? And you haven't actually got that much weight to lose, so your rate of loss isn't going to be as great as others!

I think it is quite an interesting and healthy way to eat and will e good for me maintaining. I always put on weight slowly with a conventional diet even though mine us quite healthy. But right now, what I really want to do is shift 5k!

I'm sure you do. That's why we're here after all Grin But the weight didn't go on in a great lump, and nor will it come off like that. I'm afraid that you do need to be a bit more patient.

I drink all the water, one or two cups of tea with a little milk a day

Are you sure? Scouts honour?!

Breakfast is always 2 eggs scrambled in butter

Good. Make sure it's plenty of butter though.

Lunch last few days - ratatouille with cheese, chicken stew with swede, cauliflower and broccoli, ham and cheese salad with mayo.

Difficult to say from how you've written it, but it could be that there's not much fat going on here. And potentially quite a lot of carbs in things like ratatouille.

Dinners last three days- courgetti with heck sausage and bit of cream, roasted chicken thighs with chorizo and roasted courgette, onion and pepper, steak and salad.

Looks OK, but again - how much fat? If you're roasting veg, did you use lots of olive oil? Why a 'bit' of cream? And onion and pepper could be quite carby too - shallots would be better than onion, and green pepper better than red/orange/yellow (although I realise you didn't specify which you'd used!)

Snack was yesterday only - bit of mozzarella and ham.

OK - but you might want to look at how much cheese/dairy and processed foods you're eating.

I had two glasses of wine on Friday and on Sunday night.

And how big were those glasses?! Thing is, it's not just the carbs in wine that affect you. Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body, so all the time you're drinking, the body is burning that and not fat. So a bit of a double whammy.

I'm afraid I'm thinking that I might go off for a bit and do a diet I know sheds a few pounds very fast and then come back. Would that be ok? It's quite low carb carb one anyway by accident.

Up to you, obviously. But I think if you tweak what you're doing, that should help. And remember we're also in weeks 3 and 4 where weight loss is notoriously slow.

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lexloofah · 07/06/2016 13:43

sorry to hear that singtome Flowers, glad you have a plan sorted and you have broken the cycle of carby emotional eating that only makes you feel worse

wanheda that sounds amazing, almost too much food really, I don't think I could eat all of that in one sitting, will have to look for a 5 guys near us. thnx for the curry link too

I suspect I am having too many carbs but from my veg rather than crap, am having enormous salads for lunch as too hot for anything else and of course leaves are not filling so been adding a grated courgette mixed with mayo and radishes for colour. On the plus side also due to the heat am having less cups of tea and even more water - slosh -

looking forward to dinner later, going to fire up the BBQ and sling a yet to be spatchcocked chicken on with aubergine, shallots, courgette and asparagus and make either a garlic and herb butter or aioli to slather on

CathemeralChild · 07/06/2016 13:48

NACHOS!
Actually it was thickly sliced chicory.
I scattered it with cheese, flashed it under the grill, then topped with a fried egg, creme fraiche, jalapeños, and chipotle sauce. That was breakfast. Grin
I'm expecting BIWI's stick for the chipotle sauce. Oops. Next time I'll make my own salsa (tomatoes, coriander, salt, lime, chilli) and try avocado/ guacamole instead of the egg.

Week 4 - Pre-summer Low Carb Bootcamp: are you KOKO?!
WanHeda · 07/06/2016 13:53

Lex - it wasn't anywhere near too much food for me Blush

NotdeadyetBOING · 07/06/2016 13:55

Sorry to hear the black dog of depression is on you, Singtome. Just horrible, but as others have said - good that you have talked to your GP and have a plan in place. Feeling helpless is often the worst.

So - another Q for my experts…. Just went to a yoga class and got super dizzy/nausous. Had to sit down. Am normal fine. IS a warm day and I haven't been for a while so maybe slight shock to system, but wondering if it could be related to the LC diet at all?

Having said that, I am not super low-carving. Today's totals, for instance, will probably be around 45g so not winning any prizes there.

Weight has been stuck for the past few days and it's only my second week - but I don't have much to lose which I suspect has quite a bit to do with it.

Generally a happy camper Grin

StuntNun · 07/06/2016 14:04

I get the squishy fat before a whoosh too. I think it's the fat cells replacing fat with water. That's why you lose fat without losing weight - the triglycerides in the fat cells are replaced with water. Then all the water goes at once and you have a whoosh on the scales.

LaserShark · 07/06/2016 14:19

I love that theory, StuntNun. There is nothing I would like to believe more so I hope it's true! My middle is especially squishy right now, I will glug water with increased enthusiasm today to see if that encourages a whoosh!