Week 7 - Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp - the last 3 weeks!

[BIWI]

Eeeeek!

The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness is here along with The Weight Tracker

Here's to another good week.

Four weeks left, including this one, so chance to lose up to half a stone if you're really focused!

I'm glad to see that we're all thinking about Christmas and how we're going to deal with it. My own personal problem is that I find it too easy to let things slide - well, I've already had that, so I may as well have this as well - and before I know it, I've scarfed chocolates and eaten a sandwich and start to eye up the pasta as well ...

Other people are much easier to deal with than yourself!

Anyway, I have one social event this week to negotiate, but other than that all should be manageable.

Hope you all have a good and successful week

Right, I have read and digested the advice. to all.

Sayra ok, I will stop obsessing about what the scales say and concentrate on the fact my waist has gone down 3 inches. I won't weigh for a bit if you don't either.
I remember the egg fast. Didn't she eat 23 eggs in 24 hours or was it 3 days? I might try that on Monday for a day and see how it goes.

Biwi I realised it was 4 weeks not 3 but as you say, going down over time. Have drunk almost all my water today and been sure to eat more fat today. Had salmon and avocado Mayo in buttered cos lettuce wraps for lunch and a home made chicken jalfrezi with lots of coconut oil, plus coconut cream for dinner.

clash I am over the moon at losing two stone, I really am. Just worried if has stopped completely.

Miffy I tried 5:2 too and it worked for the first two weeks but I found it unsustainable. Saying that, I've probably tried every diet under the sun over the years. This is definitely the easiest apart from the water

rybka I have yet to try a BPC so I will do that tomorrow morning. I think if that is filling I might cope without lunch.

This thread is great at giving support when needed. It's a real lifeline. Thanks all again.

Tanukisan i read your coconut link going when does it get to the bit about the egg fast? Then I reread your post Could you explain what the egg fast is please.

Can someone remind me what's in a BPC please. I've trawled a few threads but can't find quantities. Coffee , butter and coconut oil. How much of each?
A and do you put cream in it?

BPC is something like 15g butter, 15g coconut oil, dash of cream. stunt always said to start off less and build up.

here is the link to stunts egg fast thread.

best no weighing until the end of BC? I will be away from the 22nd November to the 8th December but should have internet so will keep in touch.

Earlier on today (4pm ish) I suddenly felt really weird. Like spaced out as if I wasn't here, I went to bed. I was really cold then I fell asleep and have only just woken up

Going to have dinner now, I wondered if I hadn't eaten enough earlier?

B: BPC ish (coffee with cream plus ate spoon of coconut oil) - wasn't hungry
L: Egg (x3) in a cup with butter

That was before 4pm....I should have eaten enough shouldn't I? Maybe not a lot of food but plenty of energy in the for of fat surely?

D: Salmon with celeriac dauphinoise and asparagus - will have that now

I was looking for the articles cited in the piece about coconut oil and it doesn't seem to have the same effect in men as in women though the article linked to says "humans" the paper refers to "women".

These are the results from the study in men (StO are L/MCT and OO is Olive Oil).

Body weight decreased (p < 0.01) from baseline to end-point during consumption of both the StO (?1.46 ± 0.4 kg) and OO (?1.17 ± 0.4 kg); however, no significant treatment differences were observed. There were no changes in body composition among treatment groups. No differences between diets for EE measurements were reported. Fat oxidation rates did not differ between oils, but were reduced (p < 0.05) in the StO group between baseline (0.0020 ± 0.0003 g/kg fat free mass per min) in comparison to after week 6 (0.0013 ± 0.0001 g/kg fat free mass per min). No differences in carbohydrate oxidation rate were noted across diets or time.

Conclusion

The present structured medium and long chain triglyceride oil increases short-term fat oxidation but fails to modulate body weight or adiposity through a change in EE

I'm sorry I don't seem to have access to the one on the reduction of abdominal fat in women. I will try when I am at work if anyone is interested in seeing the full paper?

You're on Sayra. That should give me time to try my new regime. Going anywhere nice?

Yes, I am going to Brazil

I have five days of work then 8 days of fun,my oh is coming over too and we are having a holiday with a Brazilian friend and a work friend. We are going to the Pantanal which is a rainforest/wetland area, then Iguacu Falls and finally Rio.

I really cannot wait!

Luckily they eat plenty of protein in Brazil so hoping it won't be to bad for weight although not so sure about the caiparhinas

Thanks sayra

Sounds fantastic Sayra. Lots of churrascaria and caipirinhas. Yum.

Hello all. Been staying away this week out of glooms as I'm still in my million year stall, but have just had a big read and am picking myself up. Thanks very much for the fat-boosting tips, Biwi, Stunt and Rybka .
I can see a lot more coconut oil in my future – I stopped nibbling it for snacks 6 weeks ago when my liver felt like it was protesting, but I’ll ease it back in! I may even try a BPC...

Chester , how was the birthday party? Hope your DS was happy and you were sane! Have a lovely holiday.

Bitchy , brilliant news about the clear scan. For insomnia, have you tried 5HTP? It’s a plant-based serotonin precursor, which I’ve found semi-miraculous in terms of lovely, refreshing nights sleep and not sweating the small stuff the following day. You can get it from health food shops or online.

Best you have all my sympathies as I’m not going anywhere either. You've lost such an impressive amount though - I'm sure you'll pull through this. Join me on the fat-boost for a week?

Ready hope you had a wonderful day today!

Tanukisan it was 23 eggs over three days on the egg fast. I'm not convinced by the egg fast, there's a Facebook group of people that do an egg fast for three days every week which seems really extreme. It was designed for a low carb blogger Jimmy Moore who was having trouble losing weight on low carb because of his diabetes but it has been adapted as a quick fast to break a stall. I used it to quickly shift the weight I had gained on holiday and it worked well for me (2.5 lb in three days) BUT in my opinion it is too low in protein which made me wonder about a possible negative effect on lean body mass. The rules are you only eat eggs with one tablespoon of fat per egg and up to one ounce of cheese per egg. You can add flavourings such as chilli sauce in small quantities. It dropped my carb count down to 10g per day which meant I went into ketosis which didn't feel very nice, it was like the carb flu all over again. I have since recommended it to people that are trying to break a stall, and it is certainly preferable to the fat fast, but it isn't something that most people should need to use in their weight loss journey. If you're following the rules and don't see any weight loss in four weeks or more then I would start with a planned carb refeed to boost your leptin levels before you consider an egg fast.

Just had my first BPC and to be honest I struggled with it. The texture was fine, it was the taste of the coconut oil I did'nt like. Maybe I can put something in it to drown out the flavour? Any ideas?

Best I just do coffee with butter and cream 20g of each (if I've got any coconut cream open that goes in as well), keeps me going for a morning on my running days. Sorry your caught in a stall but looks like you've got some great advice.

everything is luminous green at the moment and all the familys now sneezing but the ability to think is coming back and i got to overspend on some new running kit yesterday.

Think a egg fast might be coming this way after Ive shifted this lurgy but for now am just making sure I eat and drink lots and lots and lots

That sounds nicer Pisses. Maybe I will try that tomorrow. I was wondering about adding almond essence too.

Fat boost it is mo.

only just realised that today is Sunday and not monday

It is a weird day as driving through 2 out of the 3 meal times. Have only just grabbed breakfast and will try to out of sync meal times to accomodate.

Will look into the 5HTP Mo thanks for the recommendation.

Remembered my training thing of Epsom salt soaks for achy muscles and did that before bed so whilst my muscles still hate me I didn't have cramping problems. I am supposed to be helping with ds' training on monday which will mean low level training myself as he needs showing the drills by example and keeping on task. Right now my muscles will hate me too much, but it might be good to slowly ease back in. Will have to make those kinda conclusions tuesday onwards as this week is insane and would tire most normal people. But it is competition day for ds so we have a road trip and my car looks more like a travelling changing room rather than a car so will wish you all good low carb onwards and downwards vibes and head on off.

Lovely luminous green pisses

Hope you are well enough to use your new kit soon.

best when I made BPC before I had flavorless coconut oil if it was just the flavour that bothered you. I've also had just butter and cream too.

bitchy I tried oil pulling with my coconut oil today, I'll give it ago and report back. I didn't spit it out though, I just swallowed it.

Just the thought of adding butter to coffee is making me queasy. I was feeling my normal mid avo low on Friday so i had a coffee with just cream in it (no coconut oil yet and see above about the butter) and it really perked me up. I'm not really a coffee person but it hit the spot way more than tea with a splash of milk. So i think i will persevere with that. I also bought some 85% choc for a treat after dinner.

The weightloss seems to be working tho. DH has said he is concerned that i am getting too thin too quick as he is seeing a daily difference. But i feel okay and i am not worried. i think when i have a lot of baby weight and a saggy belly it's quite quick to go (as opposed to the stubborn arse and thigh weight i carry) because it isn't my natural shape.

Would cinnamon maybe drown out the coconut Best.

SayraT I did oil pulling for awhile but it was too much hassle for what returns I got. I just eat the oil now and hope it works from the inside! You shouldn't swallow it. Its supposed to be full of bacteria and toxins from round your teeth! YUK! You are also supposed to spit it into some tissue and bin it rather than down the sink as it can block the waste pipe.

Feeling really rough today. Had an awful night. Woke up with bad stomach pains as though I had eaten gluten but can't trace it to anything. Found a pack of Buscopan on the cabinet and took some of that but woke late with the pain still niggling on. Got to try and get a chicken dinner cooked but I think Hubs may be eating alone!

Ahh miffy I only swilled it round my mouth because I was going to eat it anyway! I'll just carry on eating it instead. Hope you are feeling better soon.

I made an improvement to my spiced almond drink which makes it nicer, instead of using cocoa I used 6 squares (20g) of G&B mayan gold chocolate, does make the drink more carby but less than 10g carbs.

I was very pleased with myself yesterday - a weekend trip down to London for a Yarnaholics meet up at the V&A: up very very early to catch the 4.26 train. Drank water on the way down and then a much needed coffee once I arrived at Euston. Met some others Kings Cross outside Leon - and saw that they did a poached egg, smoked salmon and avocado pot - which was delicious.
Just had water and coffee at the V&A until about 4.30 when I started crashing - so succumbed to some cake but chose the lemon and almond cake, served with some clotted cream
Evening meal was at Pizza Express: tomato, mozzarella and pesto starter, a pulled duck, mozzarella and rocket pizza - which I scraped off and left the base much to the waiter's disgruntlement
We did have dessert - so I had raspberry and lemon curd sorbet (we'll gloss over that bit) and the meal deal I had included a glass of prosecco and the Christmas cracker won our table a round of Limoncellos so I had to force the glass down

But given this was a girly weekend away, I think I did pretty well!

I had to turn down the breakfast m in the B&B as it was all carby and just have a cup of tea - but fortunately I'd brought some mini pepperami with me to give me energy as I walked 2.5 hours across London to see the poppies

I bought some peanuts on the train back to Glasgow to keep me going - and then drank loads of water when I got in, to supplement the litre I'd had with me not enough

Sounds like a pretty good day!

Hi all I started No carbs yesterday, today I haven't stopped eating :( I feel like the meat just is not satisfying and all I can think about is cake and chocolate.

Today I have had:
B - omelette, avocado and tomatoes
D - mixed grill with side salad - went out for dinner
Snacks -
2 peparami
A few olives
Some mozzarella

I still want something but I won't have anything I'm going to bed.

Is there anything I can make that resembles a chocolate dessert?

Well done Pretty ! Sounds like a marathon.

Right. . I had a BPC this morning. It was horrid. Butter on everything, and I mean everything. 10 mile cycle towing 19kg DS on tagalong.

Who's bad, scales? Give me everything you've got.

Only two meals? No wonder you are starving Did you get enough fat? Vegetables? Tbh I always find the first 2 weeks dreadful wrt cravings but if I am stubborn and have nothing what resembles what I am craving then I am fine. It does get better and the first two weeks of bootcamp are designed to kick the cravings into a sensible level.
And before BIWI comes wandering in with her stick this is not a NO carb woe but a low carb woe where the carbs are coming from vegetables. Additionally how much water have you drunk? It really does help to drink the minimum 2ltrs.