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Low-carb bootcamp

Week 7 - Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp - the last 3 weeks!

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BIWI · 10/11/2014 07:22

Eeeeek!

The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness is here along with The Weight Tracker

Here's to another good week.

Four weeks left, including this one, so chance to lose up to half a stone if you're really focused!

I'm glad to see that we're all thinking about Christmas and how we're going to deal with it. My own personal problem is that I find it too easy to let things slide - well, I've already had that, so I may as well have this as well - and before I know it, I've scarfed chocolates and eaten a sandwich and start to eye up the pasta as well ...

Other people are much easier to deal with than yourself! Grin

Anyway, I have one social event this week to negotiate, but other than that all should be manageable.

Hope you all have a good and successful week Flowers

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miffy49 · 12/11/2014 19:00

Sainsburys or Asda for me. I have bought off Amazon when Sainsburys ran out as I can't go out myself and didn't trust DH to get it! Grin Too expensive for mistakes!

I can eat it straight from the fridge with a coffee. I decant it into ice cube trays as its the devil's own to get out of the jar when its hard. Makes a lovely curry if you fry off your onions and spices in it. I also love courgettes cooked in coconut. Didn't take to it for eggs though. I do love my butter for eggs.Smile I've been told that its yummy to fry off blanched, green beans in it but haven't tried that yet.

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MrsKoala · 12/11/2014 19:02

cheers, is it strong coconutty flavour then?

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BeyondTheLimits · 12/11/2014 19:16

Yep, its quite similar imo (though smoother) to the inside of a bounty Grin

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MrsKoala · 12/11/2014 19:20

ooh i love a bounty! not great for dh tho who hates coconut. if i cook with it in curries he may not notice. Wink otherwise should i stick with cooking with olive oil? i'm not sure i get enough fats atm.

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BeyondTheLimits · 12/11/2014 19:22

I went oldschool and bought a block of lard. It is minging Grin

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rybka13 · 12/11/2014 19:47

I think there is odourless version of coconut oil. Im not sure but I have seen it on Amazon. I buy "smelly" one from local health shop.

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prettybird · 12/11/2014 19:53

ktc cocount oil (find it in the ethnic aisle if your supermarket has one - or from your local ethnic/Asian) shop has absolutely no coconut flavour ConfusedSmile and is only c.£1.49 for 500ml.

I say ml - it's usually solid at room temperature Grin except in heatwaves when it goes liquid again

A spoonful in my herbal tea (liquorice/pepmermint, salted caramel green tea, gingerbread green tea, rooibos) melts very quickly and just gives a nice roundness to the tea without a hint of coconut.

I've checked and it doesn't use any nasty hydrogenation process.

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Tanukisan · 12/11/2014 20:01
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miffy49 · 12/11/2014 20:47

I thought coconut butter was different from the oil. I notice this has hemp seed oil added. The coconut oil is just coconut.
MrsK my hubby hates coconut and he never notices the taste except to say he enjoyed it! Grin I've had Lucy Bee (Sainsburys) and Groovy Food (Asda) and neither is overly strong. Both around £6 for 300ml.

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ChesterDrawers · 12/11/2014 21:02

I use coconut oil all the time. DH 'hates' coconut. Has he ever noticed? Grin

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Tanukisan · 12/11/2014 21:56

It's 99.4% coconut butter (0.6% hemp oil) and 100% fat!

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SarahBeenysBumblingApprentice · 12/11/2014 22:25

beyond I like old school dripping for cooking with. Yum. Much nicer than lard!


I've just been catching up with the thread- I've had a slip that turned into a landslide and I tend to keep away when I feel like I'm not doing very well.

(Shit shouting coming up)

Why oh why oh why am I either all or nothing with this low carb business? I'm (normally) quite good at not cheating- I find staying in ketosis a really good motivator. But I always struggle with my running on this WOE and I want to give carb cycling a try. However, I eat the planned carb and it mushrooms into more...

I did a long and hard (for me) mountain bike on Sunday followed by Shepherd's pie (sadly the pie gave us all grotty stomachs, but that's not the point). I felt awful on Monday and genuinely thought I was coming down with flu - headache, tired, not with it, to the point where others were noticing. I then thought as I was becoming unwell, I may as well eat some carbs as I had an awful day at work to get through and I would have absolutely anything that helped... and so on. I actually felt fine the next day, I think it was a mix of hard exercise and dodgy food that knocked me off. But it was a litany of excuses that started the carb landslide.

The other problem is that now I'm a normal BMI my motivation is waning although really I need to loose another 4lb to goal and another 11lb total to give myself a "float".

I have a good few social events coming up - one every two weeks or so until Christmas. I think I'm going to make my goal to maintain over the holidays and come January I'm going to tweak my macros (thanks Stunt, I had carbs set at 10%), ditch dairy and get going again.

Please don't chuck me off for being a bad bootcamper though - reading the thread is really movitational.

Pisses I have always found the amount of exercise you're getting done inspirational and you really do come across as being very sorted. Sorry about your foot.

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SayraT · 12/11/2014 22:41

Well done toomuch I agree with what you are saying with this WOE and I have similar goals just now Grin

Poor beyond I hope you get sorted soon, I've never fainted but can't imagine that it is very pleasant Flowers

Stay strong chester you don't need junk food to get you through, you will manage fine.

I think I need to try coconut oil again, I have some left over from making bath product stuff. I am sure it won't be as good for you as food grade stuff but might be ok. I tend to cook everything in yummy butter.

miffy same here with the chocolate, if I eat it now I literally have a square or two and that is enough for me. Seems so strange that prior to this WOE I could have eaten a big bar no problem.

sarah of course we won't chuck you off Flowers sorry you've been finding it difficult recently. I think it can be quite hard when you allow yourself to have some carbs, you think that wasn't so bad and allow yourself some more and it spirals out of control.

You are so close to goal and I think that you, pisses, miffy, please? and ready might all be in the same sort of situation where you are 'normal' or an ok weight but not exactly where you want to be. It seems that for you all being so close to goal is actually more difficult to deal with than you'd think.

I am sorry that I can't help, I am still miles away from goal Grin

My lovely mum was round for dinner this evening but as I knew I'd be back late she offered to bring dinner. She had recently told me she had started back at Scottish slimmers (weight watchers type thing I think, you get points or something) so I was worried she would bring something carby like pasta. She didn't, she is fabulous and is being so supportive (she hasn't always been when I've been on a 'diet') she made a hairy bikers curry and brought a cauliflower to make cauli-rice as she was trying to think of something we could both have Smile

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Liveinthepresent · 12/11/2014 23:02

hello all just popping up to say i am still here still keeping on. been a chaotic couple of weeks so not posted.
I STS last week and haven't weighed this week as I don't want to get disheartened and I know I have had a lull caused by extreme SOS of a birthday weekend at my sisters. I did really well on the whole but I know if I don't lose I may lose faith.
will catch up with thread properly and post some more.

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miffy49 · 12/11/2014 23:54

Its a nice thought SayraT but I'm no where near goal. BMI still 30 and about 2st away from a very moderate goal. I am just trying to accept that the most important thing is to stick with the plan so that my blood glucose and FMS stay under control and I'm continuing with my weight training.

I may just be kidding myself but I do seem to be building muscle and my fatty bits do look more wobbly so maybe I'm just putting on muscle around the same rate that I'm losing fat. I'm getting a nice shape now. Even Hubs has noticed! its just that the fatty bits stuck around the nice new muscles do look rather odd and ikky. Confused I tell myself that I am not defined by a number on a scale but I don't always listen!Grin

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miffy49 · 12/11/2014 23:58

SarahB have you looked at the Phinney and Volek book about low carb performance? I found their other book very informative and have read good reviews about the performance once. Haven't bought it myself as I have to strictly tailor my exercise to my capabilities so its not really appropriate for me. Have you read it Pisses?

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MrsKoala · 13/11/2014 03:30

Thank you everyone for the coconut oil advice. i will have a look at the weekend. I have been feeling really hungry and quite faint and i think it's not enough fats. As i keep banging on about said, i'm at my parents who have very lean meat and low fat everything so i am struggling to feel full on just the meat and veg. Must add more butter today.

So you really add oil to tea and coffee? That sounds horrible. Is it nice? I will get some herb tea too to try - the salted caramel one sounds interesting. And may even attempt a bpc (although i'm not a coffee fan).

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Tanukisan · 13/11/2014 06:09

sarahb you sound a bit like me. Did any of your carb slip involve sugar of any sort? Have you ever read The Sweet Poison Quit Plan?

I know others have mentioned being able to stop at a square of dark choc now. That's amazing (and I'm jealous!) but it's not me. I'm a proper sugar addict and I have to avoid it completely. Even a little and I can't control my carb cravings. If this sounds familiar I really recommend the above book. It's not a low carb book, it's purely about the sweet and deadly stuff, but it talks a lot about the mechanics of addiction and I really recommend it.

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StuntNun · 13/11/2014 06:38

Koala a teaspoon of coconut oil in rooibos tea is rather nice. It's great for moisturising your lips as you drink it too.

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toomuchicecream · 13/11/2014 06:44

I'm with you on that one Tanukisan. I can't imagine ever getting to the stage where I can't eat chocolate. In fact, a couple of weeks ago on the day the clocks changed I ended up scarfing a large bar of dairy milk and it was yum. In my defence, I'd been out all day cycling with friends and when we'd done 35 miles we decided to be sensible, cut the ride shorter than planned and get the train home so we didn't get caught out by the early darkness - we didn't all (ie me) have proper lights. That was all fine till 15 miles from home there was a replacement bus service cos of engineering works. You can't put bikes on replacement buses... So we ended up cycling the 15 miles home as fast as we could by the only route we knew, down the main A4 out of London. Needless to say darkness beat us too. For information, when cycling along the Heathrow airport perimeter fence in the dark, the planes that are taking off just the other side of the fence are very very very LOUD! I knew that to get home without collapsing I needed to get some food inside me and fast! There's a limit to what can be bought at a petrol station on a Sunday evening!!!

So that's how I know that I can't yet eat a small amount of chocolate then feel too sick to finish it!

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StuntNun · 13/11/2014 07:20

Milk chocolate is different though TooMuch, dark chocolate seems to go much further. I find 70% I can eat loads but 85% is chocolatey enough to satisfy the desire but not palatable enough that I want to eat a lot of it.

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SarahBeenysBumblingApprentice · 13/11/2014 07:21

Thanks for the suggestions everyone!

That sounds like quite a bike ride toomuch Grin

I haven't read that book, Tanuk; I think I'll have to have a look. I've got the I Quit Sugar book but because she still has a lot of carbs in the recipes I haven't found it that useful. Bizarrely I'm one of those that can stop at a square of chocolate, but I eat the 85% stuff and it's just not sweet. The 70% stuff is sweet enough that I could do the whole bar easily!

Miffy I love Vinney and Pholek and their books are great but there were no answers for me in that one! I think their take home message is "don't eat carbs and you will fat adapt eventually" which I would do well to take heed of Grin.

Sayra I'm sure you will be at the close to goal stage one day! Could you please bottle "supportive mum' and distribute her? I genuinely think my Mum competes with us with respect to weight and feels threatened if her daughters are thinner than her. She's become better as she got older though. My parents were responsible for the Shepherds pie on Sunday, despite me saying that I would bring my own dinner. She rung me and informed me that there was no need to bring anything as my Dad had cooked something specially. Great Hmm.

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SarahBeenysBumblingApprentice · 13/11/2014 07:22

Cross post with Stunt. 85% rocks. Lindt do a 90% too.

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SayraT · 13/11/2014 08:45

Oh sorry miffy I hope I didn't get anyone else wrong! Its hard to remember what stage everyone is at and I must have ready something and thought you were at goal.

toomuch I am sure if I started eating a sweeter chocolate then it wouldn't be the same story but I have been having the occasional square of lindt intense orange which is 9g carbs per square. That is a wee bit higher than I'd like but only have it once or twice a week and quite often not at all. I think that it makes OH feel better that there is a small thing he can buy me as a 'treat'.

Tanukisan I was like that at the start but I've now been LCing for almost a year and I didn't rarely chocolate at all until the last month or so to try and lose the cravings. Can you genuinely still not stop at a square of dark (85%) chocolate? Or do you mean you can't stop if you eat a sweeter milk chocolate. I don't feel the same compulsion to eat an entire bar with darker chocolate but could still do so with milk I think.

sarah I was really impressed with my mum, I was expecting pasta or something! She has also said that she won't buy sweets at Christmas and asked if I wanted her to have a word with Santa about the chocolate orange in my stocking. I asked her if Santa could possibly give me a dark one (5g carbs per segment) instead of milk (5.25g carbs per segment) Grin I know its still not ideal but I don't want a real orange!!!

Maybe we should stop talking about chocolate in case we trigger someone.

Food Today

B: Coffee with cream
L: Buttery leeks and bacon
D: Lamb shank, celeriac, other veggies

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Rollergirl1 · 13/11/2014 09:49

I hope people don't mind me posting on this thread for some info? This thread seems to get the most traffic. I am intrigued with Bulletproof coffees. What is the purpose of them? Is it primarily used as a means to upping your fat intake? Some people say that it keeps them full for a long time and also gives them a boost and makes them feel focused. Does this only work if you use coffee? I'm not really a coffee drinker you see. I drink herbal tea instead. I have seem some people up thread say that they add coconut oil to their herbal tea but would that give you the same boost as adding oil and butter to coffee?

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