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Week 5 - Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp - we reach the half way point!

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BiWitched · 27/10/2014 07:18

Eeek! I'm not stepping on the scales this morning, so will not be confessing all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

Family wedding this weekend, and no control over food means I really don't want to see what number is on the scales!

Anyway, don't forget there's also the Weight Tracker

Here's to a successful week for all of us. Hopefully those who have seen things slow down/stop will see the scales begin to move again from now on.

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Livelongandprosper · 27/10/2014 10:23

Oh I am so happy! Having STS since the beginning of this boot camp (except for last week when I put on a pound) I have lost 4lbs. I have a knitted winter dress I really liked last year but it had shrunk in the wash and had lost its stretch. I tried it on earlier and it hadn't shrunk at all, it is starting to fit nicely now and seems to be regaining its stretchy nature now that I am 10lbs lighter than when I last wore it

Figrus · 27/10/2014 10:41

Put on half a pound. The latter half of last week i stayed away from the 'support' thread . I found it very demoralising, full of moaners and tales of people cheating. There were a few positive people posting uplifting encouraging messages but the overall theme was very deflating. There is obviously a lot of glass half full people around. Can we not have a different 'cheat' thread? Didn't biwitched ask them not to post on this one?

prettybird · 27/10/2014 10:53

Yaaayyy - I've had a whoosh GrinGrin - down 4lb on last week. I think it's a combination of starting the Shred, drinking lots of water and finally stopping nibbling (even though it was Low Carb, it was a lot of cheese).

And this drop despite the fact that last night we had supper at my Dad's and I had a glass of wine, a small amount of rice with the meatballs in tomato sauce and then two small slices of melktert well, he had made a very good one and I ate it mindfully Wink

But the rest of the day, all I'd had was some scrambled eggs, 4 slices of salami, 3 Brazil nuts and a plate of homemade coleslaw while dh had a scone left over from the day before, with some clotted cream

I'd forgotten to eat breakfast before going to the velodrome with ds so I had to buy the scrambled eggs - and I even gave away the two slices of toast Smile

SayraT · 27/10/2014 10:53

notso I do it on the hob, just stick everything in and mix until its warm.

Firgus I am very sorry if my post last week caused you any problems. It was not meant to and I just posted because I felt so awful about myself. A few others the agreed that talking about when things don't go to plan is sometimes good.

We did on a previous BC have a separate "cheat" thread but then people weren't happy about that either so there isn't one any more. I think having a separate thread means people think that they can cheat when they want and just confess on the cheats thread with other cheaters and it won't matter. If you talk about it on this thread where the majority of people are sticking with it then you can get help to stop cheating and get back on the wagon.

It is quite difficult to please everyone. I found the thread last week very helpful to me. I discovered I wasn't the only one who makes fuck-ups and with the help and support of the others on the thread I got back on track.

CharlieSierra · 27/10/2014 10:54

Figrus I completely agree with you and I'm glad you've said it - I wanted to several times last week, but I was struggling to say what I felt without coming across as a total bitch so I just had a few days away too.

SayraT · 27/10/2014 11:01

I am really sorry in that case, I didn't realise that anyone felt like that. Please do say something in future then the conversation can stop, if we don't realise that someone has an issue then how can we solve it.

I have just looked back through last weeks thread and I think I was the only person who "cheated", I can assure you that it was not an intentional "cheat" and I didn't post about it intending on derailing anyone else.

Pisseslikeahorse · 27/10/2014 11:11

Figrus - half a pound is nothing, its not even a pint of water and could be many reasons for it occurring. Can we help? whats your food been like last week?

Username12345 · 27/10/2014 11:24

SayraT The stones are fine but the pounds are 4.2 (got this twice), 4.6, 4.8, 5 lbs.

SayraT · 27/10/2014 11:27

On my scales I just ignore the .whatever so if I were you I'd go for X st 4lbs, you could always try a new battery just in case as well.

Username12345 · 27/10/2014 11:34

Just weighed myself again, came up 4.2 for the third time so I'm going to go for that.

FWIW I like seeing people who have fallen off the wagon on the thread (which I did early on because I went to a party and the non carb dish wasn't nice). Because they usually go back on and it motivates me not to give up if I slip up from lack of willpower. I don't like the term 'cheating' which implies it's being done purposely. If people are eating carbs purposely then they're not BCing.

But I don't post much so what do I know Grin

Also congrats to those who have lost. Stay strong to those who have STS or gained. Smile

CharlieSierra · 27/10/2014 11:37

Syra it wasn't you as far as I can remember, I haven't got an issue with supporting someone who is struggling, I hope I'd get the same myself if necessary - its more general whinging and excuses for not taking good advice re things like going out - I think fine if someone wants to go off the wagon for a night out, but no need to make excuses like 'if I didn't eat it Id starve' no one is going to starve from one meagre meal, they might feel a bit hungry, which is ok sometimes, stuff like that gets me. [intolerant] Blush

Earlybird · 27/10/2014 11:38

Hello, hello - I've haven't abandoned the thread (or low-carbing), but have hit a plateau. Life has been especially crazy, and my eating has been a lot of grab-and-go, rather than meal planning.

I must get re-focused. I've not been 'bad', just haven't been drinking the amounts of water required, and have not been getting enough fats in my diet. And though I've been active, have not been getting my normal amounts of exercise. While it is good that I haven't gained, I also haven't been losing much.

Time to be strict again if I want to see results. Well done to all of you that are having success.

Figrus · 27/10/2014 11:38

Charlie, I'm glad i am not alone in thinking that. I thought i might be hounded off the thread for expressing my opinion. But , hey , we're all adults here. Sayra, i wasn't referring to you personally, your pictures were inspiring. It was the overall tone of the latter half of the thread that i found demoralising not specific posters.

Pisses, thanks for offer but i am not too upset about the half a pound gain. According to biwi it is common at this stage. And i read stuntguns explanation about vasopressin stalling things. And i am resigned to the fact that i am a slow loser due to age, activity and the amount i need to lose. But it is going in the right direction (mostly). Onwards and upwards.

prettybird · 27/10/2014 11:40

I also get varying weights on my electronic scales and they have new batteries - we even bought new (good - Salter) ones because dh was fed up of them being "inconsistent' - but they still vary Confused.

I stand on them a few times especially when I don't like what I see and then take the most common weight. I'm also very careful to weight in exactly the same place every time. This morning I even go a 10 stone 13lb twice (but the second time was 10 stone 13 and 3/4lb) but as I'd got the 11stone 0 three times and 11 stone 1lb once, I went for the middle one much as I'd have like to post the "breakthrough into the 10 stone something weights Wink

I've decided it's a bit like the rocking backwards and forwards you'd get on "old" scales - you'd be able to judge visually where it was rocking around.

yongnian · 27/10/2014 12:25

Thank you mojangled and charlie sierra! Happy dance.
Great to see all the other whooshes going on too.
Re last week's thread...I didn't find it too moany or cheaty, personally..I thought people were being honest about what makes weight loss tough for them individually...which is kinda what a support thread is for, no? Bound to be a few bumps in the road. I know I didn't get to the weight I started at without there being 'not dealing with stuff very well moments' myself and I've previously found whenever I've lost weight, that some of the emotional stuff comes off/out too.
Hey ho, just my thoughts.

Ditzy71 · 27/10/2014 12:53

I hav'nt put myself on the spreadsheet yet.
I have lost 6lbs in roughly two weeks doing low carb. Not as strict but working for me.

This is what I am eating.

one or two oatcakes with a little honey

bacon, egg, mushrooms ,toms and scrambled egg in butter

smoothie made from mixed berries and cherries, dollop of greek yoghurt and milk

pears, grapes, apple with cheeseboard

homemade red cabbage apple and walnut coleslaw with cheese

slow cooked gammon in maple and mustard with veg

salmon with a white wine sauce with veg

Coconut chicken and veg curry with mango chutney and popadoms

This is just an example but its not bootcamp its just low carb which is working for me. Grin

rybka13 · 27/10/2014 12:57

yongnian i was just about to write something in that tone, support thread is meant for support, folks moan and groan but everyone is doing rather extremly well, some are "cheating" because they decided to or were forced to by circumstances but this is life, in my perception last week wasn't much different. Maybe people are more familliar with regulars and more honest, less reserved in expressing themself so impression it is just doom and gloom and cheating haha. To get the balance right there was a lot of wise posts about psychological aspects of eating etc. And that what support thread is about.
I did not find fact that somebody had chocolate or take away demoralising to me.Their decision. What is demoralising is the fact that my weight is getting lost Wink rather slow despite of not cheating at all and "cheating" lads and lasses are losing weight anyway. But that is a matter of differences between human bodies/metabolism/amount of fat to lose and many, many others. Last year I lost 20 kg (44lbs) then gained about 7kg after pregnancy. I know I can do it again. And it will happen doesn't matter how many of bootcampers stuff their faces with whatever their fancy. Amen

Pisseslikeahorse · 27/10/2014 13:05

Ditzy71 - its not low carb, if you have a look at the info on the spread sheet it will give you a bit more guidance, but in general you need to cut out the sugars large fruit and bread / flour otherwise your not going to start burning fat or go into ketosis.

so from what you posted:
oatcakes, honey, popadoms, mango chutney, maple (i take this is syrup) and large fruit are out. Also you need to keep to the lighter side of the dairy

Smile sorry

yongnian · 27/10/2014 13:05

Yup rybka that's how it's striking me too. I think the support given on this WOE is a superb service (and free!! Don't people pay £££s for some diet support groups?) and it has really helped me keep on track...whether people are losing or struggling, we're all in the same boat.

Ditzy71 · 27/10/2014 13:22

Pisses It is low carb. Low carb can be anything under 100grams.
I didn't put down that I eat bread or flour. I have a little maple or honey. I eat small amounts of fruit because I enjoy them and they don't affect me.
I do go into ketosis and I am obviously burning fat as I have lost weight and clothes are much loser. I did say I am not doing bootcamp but was told that it was ok to post on here too. I have been doing mindful eating for the last twenty years as well so I don't eat a lot as I eat when hungry and stop as soon as I am satisfied. I am doing this for life not for a short term thing.

BiWitched · 27/10/2014 13:42

Figrus Put on half a pound. The latter half of last week i stayed away from the 'support' thread . I found it very demoralising, full of moaners and tales of people cheating. There were a few positive people posting uplifting encouraging messages but the overall theme was very deflating.

I've just gone back and read the whole thread, and I think you are being very, very unfair. What I read was a lot of success stories at the start of the week, followed by people delighting in being able to buy new, smaller jeans later on. And people discussing their struggles with the emotional aspects of eating, for which there was a lot of support.

One or two people - including me - talked about the difficulty of going to events where you have no control over your food. This is a reality of life and while we have to learn to deal with it, it is frustrating and can be very upsetting to have your best attempts derailed.

One poster talked about a slip not meaning the end of the world - which is an important perspective - and there was a bit of debate about this.

There is obviously a lot of glass half full people around. Can we not have a different 'cheat' thread? Didn't biwitched ask them not to post on this one?

This claim totally undermines the contribution of people on last week's thread, where they were discussing some quite difficult issues. Perhaps you do have a glass half full attitude to life. Good for you. Other people have specific and different issues that they want to discuss on a SUPPORT thread. And there was lots of support.

I have asked people before not to post in a gloating way about their cheats, as there was a lot of this on the last couple of Bootcamps, and it can be seriously triggering for other posters. But I have never said that we shouldn't talk about what's happened, why we cheated, what to do about it, how to deal with it in the future.

Charlie, I'm glad i am not alone in thinking that. I thought i might be hounded off the thread for expressing my opinion. But , hey , we're all adults here. Sayra, i wasn't referring to you personally, your pictures were inspiring. It was the overall tone of the latter half of the thread that i found demoralising not specific posters.

If you have an issue with something, please say so on the thread. No point sitting behind your computer silently seething. As you say, we're all adults here. If something offends or upsets you, then why not say so? And, again, I think you're totally, totally wrong about the tone of the thread.

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BiWitched · 27/10/2014 13:44

Charlie

Figrus I completely agree with you and I'm glad you've said it - I wanted to several times last week, but I was struggling to say what I felt without coming across as a total bitch so I just had a few days away too.

Please say so on the thread. It comes across as more bitchy talking about it and other posters now.

Sayyra it wasn't you as far as I can remember, I haven't got an issue with supporting someone who is struggling, I hope I'd get the same myself if necessary

But now you have people wondering if it's them. Which isn't nice. And there were a lot of people struggling on that thread who now probably feel like shit for upsetting you and Figrus.

its more general whinging and excuses for not taking good advice re things like going out - I think fine if someone wants to go off the wagon for a night out, but no need to make excuses like 'if I didn't eat it Id starve' no one is going to starve from one meagre meal, they might feel a bit hungry, which is ok sometimes, stuff like that gets me. [intolerant] blush

Yes, that is fucking intolerant. People were asking for help and were not talking about starving. A bit more consideration for others please, as this is supposed to be a support thread for everybody.

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MrsKoala · 27/10/2014 13:45

i haven't put myself on the spreadsheet as i don't have any scales as am staying at my parents for a few weeks.

I have measured myself tho and i am: waist 35" hips 43" and thigh 26" Shock . I am not really bothered about weight just measurements anyway so i will measure myself weekly.

I'm thinking of starting the shred but i am only 9 weeks post c-section so i think i should wait till 12wks. Trying to do some power walking and swim once a week to get used to exercise again atm.

Well done on all the losses. I am inspired and optimistic. :)

BiWitched · 27/10/2014 13:47

Ditzy71

I'm very glad that it's working for you. However, what you're eating isn't Bootcamp and it really won't be helping people here if you keep listing your high carb food!

one or two oatcakes with a little honey

This isn't a low carb/Bootcamp meal.

smoothie made from mixed berries and cherries, dollop of greek yoghurt and milk

pears, grapes, apple with cheeseboard

... and with all this fruit, neither is this

homemade red cabbage apple and walnut coleslaw with cheese

more fruit

slow cooked gammon in maple and mustard with veg

maple syrup is just sugar

Coconut chicken and veg curry with mango chutney and popadoms

mango chutney and popadoms are not low carb

This is just an example but its not bootcamp its just low carb which is working for me.

I wish you well with your diet, but it isn't Bootcamp!

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Ditzy71 · 27/10/2014 14:00

Well thanks for that BIWI. I did post last week that I was doing low carb and whether there was a low carb thread separately. One lovely poster said to me that some of you are doing ongoing low carb (bootcamp light) and that I was welcome to post here.

So no I am not doing bootcamp but I never actually said I was. I am doing low carb and counting my carbs.

I refuse to eat artificial sweeteners, loads of dairy and fats don't agree with me nor does too much protein.

Sorry to have bothered you and thanks BIWI for the telling off.
I shall leave the thread now feeling very humiliated and attacked and see if I can find anyone doing low carb.

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